Fake bids on gunbroker?

[Ashton]

Recently bid on an item from gun broker for someone with an A+ rating and 900+ feedback. Looked at their feedback and the item always goes for the "buy it now price" which is thousands above what people bid. Thoughts?

[hatidua]

Gunbroker doesn't allow for last minute bids so it'd be tough to snipe the system. If they have 900+ positive feedback, chances are they might be the real deal?

[yankeefan98121]

This ^^^^^^^even if you are the high bidder and try to shore up an item within that 15 minute window it'll rest the time.....don't ask how I know[Flower]

[battle_sight_zero]

I have noticed in the last year in many auctions where I am the high bidder pretty much to the end on certain items I will get outbid by people with no feedback. My theory is that the seller does not want to sale the item at my bid and either they create another user name and out bid me. It's to a point now for me if I get outbid by a bidder with no feedback I won't bother bidding. I have got into bidding battles and I believe it was rigged. I also believe that some dealers have bidding profiles created to cheat the bidding system. Quite frankly you can see this happening, a seller who always leaves feedback both negative and positive after auctions wont leave feedback on no feedback bidder. Think about it after 90 days the auction record no longer exist so Mr fake bidder can be used again. I guess some sellers would rather loose the smaller chunk of change to Gunbroker than a smaller winning bid. I am not saying this happens a lot but it does, watch things close and you will see it happening.

[Sharpienads]

I've thought about this as well. I bid on an item that has been sitting on the site, sometimes expired and reposted, and as soon as I bid somebody else bids. Which, if I want the item bad enough, will just get it for the buy it now price. Makes me wonder if there are "phantom bidders".

[Ashton]

It went from $100 to full asking price of 10k... I smell a scam.

[Ashton]

Wouldn't the other user want to get it for $200?

[TAR31]

shill biding, happens a lot.

[battle_sight_zero]

I've thought about this as well. I bid on an item that has been sitting on the site, sometimes expired and reposted, and as soon as I bid somebody else bids. Which, if I want the item bad enough, will just get it for the buy it now price. Makes me wonder if there are "phantom bidders".

You are right, I guess the seller forgot he set the reserve too low. Seen some auctions reposting for 6 months and then I bid then some no feedback mfer bids wins and he never gets feedback from the seller. Seller seems to always leave the appropriate feedback but not in this case.

[MrPrena]

I know shill bidding is now allowed on eBay, and they have a software to track that.
I am fairly certain GB has a similar tracking system.

When I sell something with fixed buy it now price with starting price, it usually end up going way higher than buy it now price.

[Bailey Guns]

It would be kinda silly for a seller to "win" his own item...especially at inflated BIN prices because they'd have to pay the sales fee to GB on "sold" items.

[Sharpienads]

I didn't think it was necessarily the seller bidding up the price, but maybe one of his buddies. I'm not trying to question the integrity of the seller, and it could just have been a coincidence. Just something I thought of. I didn't think of the selling fees.

[Circuits]

It would be kinda silly for a seller to "win" his own item...especially at inflated BIN prices because they'd have to pay the sales fee to GB on "sold" items.

Seller just waits a few days, reports a "non responsive bidder" which gets them a refund of fees and a relisting if they wish.

[yankeefan98121]

Seller just waits a few days, reports a "non responsive bidder" which gets them a refund of fees and a relisting if they wish.

or pays the % to GB and sweeps it all under the table. paying 30-50 bucks is better that losing hundreds I guess

[gnihcraes]

I recently bought a barrel off there, 9.99 but it jumped all of the sudden at the end or near. Ended up being 29.99 or something like that. And now, all items listed just like it have a starting price of 29.99. I think someone is playing games with multiple accounts and names or friends. It was a very odd thing to purchase too, so it's not like everyone ones one.

[ben4372]

It's been a long time since I've gotten a good deal on flebay, and unless you can stomach the buy it now on gunbroker, its no good either. Funny how great these auctions sites were in the early days. I sound like my grandpa. "In my day we had to bid with dial up, IN THE SNOW. UP HILL BOTH WAYS "

[Colorado Osprey]

You just need to look other places.
Gun Broker is great for selling items to get the most money for your stuff.

Auction Arms now known as Gun Auction has some of the best prices as a buyer, but not the selection as broker.

http://www.gunauction.com/