Theft by gun show, Heads up

[Great-Kazoo]

Linked from arfcom
Looks like a lot from one robbery.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_20/493877_Need_Help__Huge_Amount_of_Gun_Magazines__Ho lsters_and_More_Stolen_in_Denver_Area__Updated_aga in_.html

[Bailey Guns]

Sucks...I really hate thieves.

[Sharpienads]

That sucks big time.

[Sparky]

I hope these dirtbags get caught.

[Rooskibar03]

I hate thieves as much as the next guy but in the back of my head I can't understand leaving a Cargo Van full of weapons and accessories outside a hotel for the night unattended.

Can't say I have a better idea other then spending the night in the van, but it just seems like a bad call to not have better protection.

[birddog]

Guy really got cleaned out, too bad. Hopefully they catch up with the crooks but who knows

[Great-Kazoo]

I hate thieves as much as the next guy but in the back of my head I can't understand leaving a Cargo Van full of weapons as accessories outside a hotel for the night in attended.

Can't say I have a better idea other then spending the night in the van, but it just seems like a bad call to not have better protection.


Unless you have worked a show, it's not easy. Try humping all that stuff, by yourself in to a hotel room, THEN loading it back up.

[68Charger]

silent paging alarm system... make sure your room is in range. problem solved.

now you could even have wireless motion-sensing cameras that would alert your phone... the logistics of ensuring they are connected is a bit of a pain, but if you want to throw some money at it, a 3G/4G hotspot device will do that anywhere you get cell service... or on the cheap, a wifi AP with a good directional antenna... take a little while to setup before you hit the sack, but I'd sleep better.

[cofi]

at least a loud alarm that blows those criminals just got a ton of stuff :(

[MCarp71]

That freaking blows!!

[thebolt]

Linked from arfcom
Looks like a lot from one robbery.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_20/493877_Need_Help__Huge_Amount_of_Gun_Magazines__Ho lsters_and_More_Stolen_in_Denver_Area__Updated_aga in_.html


The owner of this property from Missouri asked for help and I thought I should let people know his original posting. This is not my property but I wanted to help him out.


"My cargo van was packed with merchandise for the Tanner Gun Show and got emptied by thieves at the hotel overnight .

Theft was in Westminster, CO. Case number with Westminster PD is 2012-12727

At this point I am updating the list several times per hour as items come to mind.

List will be updated more tonight and tomorrow.
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There will be a cash reward for info leading to an arrest and conviction or an arrest and recovery.

I also ask for any locals to PM me links for local message boards where I can monitor to see if any of my stuff turns up. Thanks

STOLEN:

Rifles
Nodak Spud LLC, Mod NDS-1, SN: S-BA3918, Romy G AK, 1984 Trunnion date, Romy wood laminated stock and dong grip Tell-tale [AK is missing the top piece of wood above the gas tube and I doubt the fucktards that stole have the ability to replace it.]
Saiga .223, Model IZ 223, SN H09166976L, in factory box with no mods to rifle
Albanian SKS SN: 0169-76, Tell-tale This is a rare SKS to see for sale, and the elongated handguards and nice wood grain make it hard to confuse with a common SKS offering. Please see pics below
Russian M38 1944r date,nice
Polish M44 dated in the 1950's, nice, with folding bayonet
Romanian M44, dated in 1950's, rough with Tell-tale of sling swivels mounted into stock and on barrel for sling, folding bayonet present

Magazines
AR15 30rd GI mags, over 150 units, most new in wrap
AR15 30rd Colt mags, used, around 30 units
AR15 40rd C Products magazine, orange follower, New in wrap, 30 units
AR15 20rd C Products magazine, new in wrap, 60 units
AK74 Bakelite mags, East German, like new, around 25 units
AK74 mags, 30rd, Tell-tale spray painted black with "Made in Bulgaria" labels [sanitized Russian AK74 plum mags], 3 units
AK47 30rd mags, used, mil surplus, 30 units
HK33 mags, 40rd, probably 30 units
HK93 25rd mags, 2 units
HK91 mags, 20rd, probably 50 units
HK94 mags, 30rd, German straight mags and POF mags
Box of 13 Hungarian AK mags new in oil
30 DSA FAL mags 20rd, new
10 DSA FAL mags 25rd, new
10 DSA FAL mags 30rd, new
Around 30 FAL mags 20rd new, Korean
20 misc FAL surplus 20rd mags to include Belgian, Austrian, and other. (Tell-tale is a used Belgian FAL paratrooper alloy mag with a white paint "urban camo" pattern from the original owner. There is also a matching mag that is Austrian)
10 CETME mags
20 UZI 32rd factory mags
Browning HiPower factory mag
Glock factory mags in almost all models 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 26,25, 31 and others
Glock Korean mags hicaps, 10-20 each of Glock 9mm 33rd and Glock 40 31rd.
Thompson SMG mags, 30rd, GI, egged out for semi-auto, around 10 units


Nylon
Urban ERT shotgun belt, hold 30 shells, black, green, and tan nylon, around 20 units
Urbant ERT pistol belt, holds 20 pistol mags, black, green, and tan nylon, around 20 units
Ace Case Shoulder holsters, over 150 units in all sizes, black nylon
Ace Case drop leg, probably 30 units in multiple sizes and right hand and left hand models, black nylon
Ace Case ankle holster, probably 30 units in multiple sizes and right hand and left hand models, black nylon
Ace Case Belt holsters, probably 150 units in multiple sizes, black nylon
Ace Case inside the pants leather holsters, probably 150 units in multiple sizes, right and left hand, and multiple colors, natural leather
Ace Case inside the pants nylon holsters, probably 20 units in multiple sizes
Ace Case Assault Rifle bags with magazine pouches on outside, 42" and 46", black nylon
Ace Case M1 Garand cases, OD green nylon
Maxpedition various but, fanny, and small back packs, all new and in OD green
Blackwater Tan duffle bag
Custom pouches with shoulder strap to hold Saiga Shotgun or AR15 40rd mags, Black, MARPAT, ACU, or OD green nylon. Bags are labeled with custom tag that read "SaigaHQ.com" on one side and "Made in USA" on the flip side.
USGI SAW pouches in Woodland, new, 30 units
Korean single point bungee slings in OD Green and Tan, combined around 50 units
Spectre single point sling, black nylon, no bungee, around 8 units
Spectre single point sling, tan nylon, no bungee, around 8 units
Spectre single point sling, black nylon, with bungee, around 8 units
Blackhawk rifle/shotgun sling, black nylon, around 15 units
Blackhawk rifle/shotgun sling, camo nylon, around 15 units
Blackhawk rifle/shotgun sling, black nylon, with sling studs, around 15 units
Blackhawk rifle 3 point sling in tan, around 20 units
Rifle sling, plain, black nylon, with custom tag that read "SaigaHQ.com" on one side and "Made in USA" on the flip side.
Rifle sling with cartridge loops, black nylon, with custom tag that read "SaigaHQ.com" on one side and "Made in USA" on the flip side.

Gun Parts and Misc
Surefire M952v LED Weapons light, tan
Grippods, new, around 30 units
GG&G Picatinny rails to mount on M4 plastic handguard, new in wrap, 30 units
GG&G Single point sling receiver plate mounts, Ambi QD, 20 units
2 - Uzi bayonets
Sten MKII kit complete less receiver. extra ejectors in plastic bag, in brown Dosokill hard case.
Hungarian AMD AK47 parts kit less receiver
SGM Tactical shotgun forends * 6 units
SGM Tactical Trunnion Pistol Grip combos * 6 units
Midwest Industries Picatinny rail for Saiga rifle, new in box, black aluminum


Non Guns
USGI Trauma Kits, 6 units
USGI Basic First Aid Kits, 4 units
Bota of Boulder Water Filtration bottles, 3 sizes, 20 units
Bota of Boulder Bota Bottles, various colors, 1 liter, 20 units
German Navel Rocket Flares, orange or yellow bodies, red phosphurus flare, around 12 units
Mini Survival kits in sardine cans, 6 units
7 large Jomar display cases, around 2'x4'x8", aluminum, glass top on hinge
Magliner cart, Tell-tale scribed gunstuff4u on aluminum cross support
Dessert camo table covers * 4 units, 12-25' long each, cotton
Blaze Orange camo table cover * 1 unit, about 14 feet long, cotton
Woodland camo table covers * 8 units, 12-25' long each, nylon
Custom made steel rack to hold 6 Jomar cases, painted black"

[Wiggity]

Wow that's a lot of stuff

[68Charger]

My cargo van was packed with merchandise for the Tanner Gun Show and got emptied by thieves at the hotel overnight .


I'm sorry to hear- thieves suck... wish there was something I could do.

Just wanted to make sure you know I'm not bagging on your security with my above post, just making suggestions on how to improve/learn from a criminal action...

I hope you the best in recovering your property!

[Whistler]

I hate thieves as much as the next guy but in the back of my head I can't understand leaving a Cargo Van full of weapons and accessories outside a hotel for the night unattended.

Can't say I have a better idea other then spending the night in the van, but it just seems like a bad call to not have better protection.

That's what FNGs are for "hey prospect you sleep in the van."

[hatidua]

Unless you have worked a show, it's not easy. Try humping all that stuff, by yourself in to a hotel room, THEN loading it back up.

On big commercial photo shoots, we have far more gear than will fit in a single van. And every last piece of gear comes into the hotel rooms at night after what are typically multiple 20 hour days.

[thebolt]

I know everyone would like to help but some are kicking the man while he is down. Being critical of someone for being a victim of a theft is not right. This is similar to being critical of someone for their lack of additional security when their house is burglarized. We will all be victims at some point in our lives and we should not intensify the victims pain by second guessing and throwing guilt at them.

The blame rides on the shoulder of the bandits sneaking and stealing from good people during the dark of the night.

[alxone]

with so much stolen its hard for me to believe that its not an inside job

[Ridge]

with so much stolen its hard for me to believe that its not an inside job

Honestly, I think it would only take a couple shows to learn to identify potential targets. Then you just grab a couple like minded thugs and wait until after dark, back up a longbed pickup and start hurling stuff in from the trailer.

[alxone]

Honestly, I think it would only take a couple shows to learn to identify potential targets. Then you just grab a couple like minded thugs and wait until after dark, back up a longbed pickup and start hurling stuff in from the trailer.
ill give you that as most folks (gun owners or not) come off as an easy mark and being from out of sate as well , it could happen . but im sticking to my guns and still think it was inside or at least a case of gross neglect (witch is worse) .
i leave all kinds of stuff in the car but all ways bring the guns and coins in the house or hotel . leaving firearms in a truck or trailer especially if your out of town is a big no no . letting your guard down with firearms leads to bad guys with guns and good people being hurt . am i saying that i have the best discipline no , but i think you get my point . i do feel for the guy , if it happened to me id be really upset but id also feel as if it were in some way my fault .
remember that scene in full metal jacket about the unlocked footlocker ?
something to the effect that the unlocked footlocker brings thieves

when its all said and done i hope the guy gets his stuff back and the thieves are brought to justice

[Great-Kazoo]

That's what FNGs are for "hey prospect you sleep in the van."


WOW that's bringing back some memories.

[theGinsue]

Hotels are notorious for having vehicles broken into/burglarized. Out of state plates offer an even better target.

Hotels near gun show sites must offer the greatest target versus risk opportunity for thieves.

Will keep an eye out down here, but sincerely doubt these thieves will be caught or those items recovered.

[cofi]

ill give you that as most folks (gun owners or not) come off as an easy mark and being from out of sate as well , it could happen . but im sticking to my guns and still think it was inside or at least a case of gross neglect (witch is worse) .
i leave all kinds of stuff in the car but all ways bring the guns and coins in the house or hotel . leaving firearms in a truck or trailer especially if your out of town is a big no no . letting your guard down with firearms leads to bad guys with guns and good people being hurt . am i saying that i have the best discipline no , but i think you get my point . i do feel for the guy , if it happened to me id be really upset but id also feel as if it were in some way my fault .
remember that scene in full metal jacket about the unlocked footlocker ?
something to the effect that the unlocked footlocker brings thieves

when its all said and done i hope the guy gets his stuff back and the thieves are brought to justice

i agree alex at least bring the guns inside.......

[rocktot]

I talked to an Electricians secretary, she told me that his van got cleaned out in (Littleton) WHILE IN SIGHT, WHILE IN A RESTAURANT for LUNCH. About 6 years ago.

Illegals are EXPERTS at theft, probably genius level. They could SEE the friggin van through the front door, everything was still GONE. (yes it was locked) according to her. Nice little WTF moment.

[Great-Kazoo]

I talked to an Electricians secretary, she told me that his van got cleaned out in (Littleton) WHILE IN SIGHT, WHILE IN A RESTAURANT for LUNCH. About 6 years ago.

Illegals are EXPERTS at theft, probably genius level. They could SEE the friggin van through the front door, everything was still GONE. (yes it was locked) according to her. Nice little WTF moment.


White trash and meth heads have the vato's beat for theft.