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car-15
08-05-2012, 11:08
here we go again...
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/05/13130110-several-people-reported-shot-at-sikh-temple-outside-milwaukee?lite&GT1=43001

At least four people were reported shot Sunday morning at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., according to local media.
Witnesses told NBC station WTMJ (http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/165061026.html) of nearby Milwaukee that someone opened fire inside the temple.
Oak Creek police, the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Department and other law enforcement agencies have responded, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported.
Authorities closed roads and set up a staging area near the temple, WTMJ reported.
A witness told officers the shooter was a white male, with a heavy build, bald head and wearing a sleeveless T-shirt, Oak Creek Patch reported.

battle_sight_zero
08-05-2012, 11:43
In Sikh temple of all places. It will be interesting to see what the motivation is.

Great-Kazoo
08-05-2012, 11:43
In Sikh temple of all places. It will be interesting to see what the motivation is.


Hindu hate group.

Bailey Guns
08-05-2012, 11:51
Lots of conflicting info right now...everything from 1 shooter/4 victims to 4 shooters/20-30 victims and a hostage situation.

Don't know what to believe yet.

ChunkyMonkey
08-05-2012, 11:54
Praying for the best... :(

Bailey Guns
08-05-2012, 11:54
Fox is streaming live, raw video.

battle_sight_zero
08-05-2012, 11:59
Lots of conflicting info right now...everything from 1 shooter/4 victims to 4 shooters/20-30 victims and a hostage situation.

Don't know what to believe yet.

The media is salivating and quivering in pleasure right now which explains the lack of consistent reporting. Soon they will report the shooter was a Teaparty Cheesehead.

Bailey Guns
08-05-2012, 12:01
Greenfield PD chief reports:


First calls about 10:20am
Officer arrived and engaged active shooter.
Officer shot multiple times and returned fire on active shooter
Shooter DOA on scene
Officer transported and expected to survive
Request no video broadcast of police activity and movements...especially aerial video
No confirmation of other shooters
No victim count
Next update at 1pm (Wisconsin time)

02ducky
08-05-2012, 12:12
Oh man again?

I don't know what to say, I pray for the victims.

cofi
08-05-2012, 12:44
i feel like it must have been in 1985 for a gun owner watching all the miami shootings and just knowing the hammers coming down :(

T-Giv
08-05-2012, 13:16
Yeah it's only a matter of time now. Obama will have a field day with this one. At least Colorado got a break.

islandermyk
08-05-2012, 13:17
In Sikh temple of all places. It will be interesting to see what the motivation is.

Wonder what they'll label this act.....?

car-15
08-05-2012, 13:20
just got this.
(CNN) -
At least seven people, including a gunman shot by a police officer, have been killed in an attack on worshippers at a Sikh temple in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek, Wisconsin, on Sunday, police said.
The officer was wounded but "returned fire, and that shooter was put down," said Bradley Wentlandt, the police chief in nearby Greenfield, who briefed reporters. Investigators who picked through the building afterward found four bodies inside the temple and two other victims outside, plus the gunman, Wentlandt said.
Though early reports had suggested there may have been more than one attacker, he said officers had not identified any other gunmen.
The wounded officer, a 20-year veteran, was in surgery Sunday afternoon after being shot multiple times, but was expected to survive, Wentlandt said. He was sent to the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, south of Milwaukee, after a 911 call about 10:25 a.m. (11:25 a.m. ET).Carolyn Bellin, a spokeswoman for Milwaukee's Froedtert Hospital, said one of three men brought there from the incident was in surgery early Sunday morning, while another was in the surgical intensive care unit. The third was being evaluated in the emergency room. All three were in critical condition.
The temple has a congregation of 250 to 400, according to its website.
"I just want to say this temple was built a number of years ago and there have never been any problems with this temple," Oak Creek Alderman Dan Jakubczyk said. "They've been a plus to this city and to my district."

blacklabel
08-05-2012, 13:20
Wonder what they'll label this act.....?

It's gotta be the Tea Party. Always is. /sarcasm.

KestrelBike
08-05-2012, 16:09
Ugh, why the hell would anyone want to shoot up a Sikh temple? All of these shootings, and the people are absolutely innocent. And the shooters are cowardly, mentally-sick people. And then law-abiding, sane American gun-owners are the ones the media/left points the finger at.

Well, just bought 25 mags, waiting for the hammer.

Scanker19
08-05-2012, 17:59
Wonder what they'll label this act.....?

Yahoo is reporting, that the authorities are treating this as domestic terror.

alxone
08-05-2012, 18:15
sad things happening around the country these days

Clint45
08-05-2012, 20:18
I used to have a few friends who were Sikhs and after looking into their culture discovered that a surprisingly high number of Sikhs CCW. I'm surprised no-one shot back.

ray1970
08-05-2012, 20:33
I'm blaming Obama. Desperate times make people do stupid things. If he didn't have his foot on the throttle driving this country's economy into the ditch people wouldn't be so angry and upset all the time.

WETWRKS
08-05-2012, 20:49
Ugh, why the hell would anyone want to shoot up a Sikh temple? All of these shootings, and the people are absolutely innocent. And the shooters are cowardly, mentally-sick people.

You answered your own question. Like terrorists...shooters hit targets they think will offer no resistance. Schools, churches, anywhere they figure they will have little to no resistance.

argonstrom
08-05-2012, 21:55
You answered your own question. Like terrorists...killers hit targets they think will offer no resistance. Schools, churches, anywhere they figure they will have little to no resistance.

Fixed it for you.

Zundfolge
08-05-2012, 21:55
I used to have a few friends who were Sikhs and after looking into their culture discovered that a surprisingly high number of Sikhs CCW. I'm surprised no-one shot back.
IIRC Wisconsin is one of those states with a LOT or restrictions on where you're allowed to carry and CCW in churches is verboten.

I can only think of a couple of groups that would target Sikhs for violence ... Muslims and idiots that think Sikhs are Muslims because they wear turbans.

Jamesonehr
08-06-2012, 05:37
IIRC Wisconsin is one of those states with a LOT or restrictions on where you're allowed to carry and CCW in churches is verboten.

I can only think of a couple of groups that would target Sikhs for violence ... Muslims and idiots that think Sikhs are Muslims because they wear turbans.


There are a few other groups that would. Neo-Nazi's and the etc supremisists would.

yankeefan98121
08-06-2012, 06:41
liberal media already salivating:

"The neighbor also said she believed the suspect had a 9-11 tattoo..."

I'm surprised it didn't say "early reports says he's a tea party fundementalist"

thoughts and prayers for those involved

Cylinder Head
08-06-2012, 07:55
"Reports" are naming the shooter as ex-military?

Why would they target Sikhs? Those guys are totally harmless!

RMAC757
08-06-2012, 07:58
I'm blaming Obama. Desperate times make people do stupid things. If he didn't have his foot on the throttle driving this country's economy into the ditch people wouldn't be so angry and upset all the time.

I don't buy that Ray. Tough times may cause people to get a divorce or even kick their dog.....not go on a shooting rampage. This POS needs to be held responsible for his actions.

Zundfolge
08-06-2012, 08:10
I can only think of a couple of groups that would target Sikhs for violence ... Muslims and idiots that think Sikhs are Muslims because they wear turbans.There are a few other groups that would. Neo-Nazi's and the etc supremisists would.
I would argue that any Neo-Nazis or white supremacists that would attack a Sikh temple are covered in that second group of idiots.


Why would they target Sikhs? Those guys are totally harmless!
I'd go one further, if we end up in a global war against Islam it will be the Sikhs that are among the strongest allies of the west against the Jihadists. The only reason to target Sikhs is if he had a beef with a specific Sikh OR like I said before, he's an idiot that thinks Sikhs are somehow Muslims.

battle_sight_zero
08-06-2012, 08:32
The shooter was ex military and sounds like he was discharged underless than honorable conditions. His last unit was Psychological operations of all things. Most likely was a moron Skinhead, and was a member of some skinhead band End Apathy. Either way sounds like a complete douche bag all the way around. F the skin heads and other racist pieces of waste. Either way the media better not spin this scum as some conservative person. I wonder if the web site Stormfront is a buzz? Quite frankly one of my reasons to own firearms is to protect myself and my family from waste like this because we would be targeted because of heritage . Yeah guys like these would turn in their guns skinheads would turn in their guns if the govt asked (sarcasm). Could you imagine clowns and other hate groups like this in a SHTF situation?

TFOGGER
08-06-2012, 08:41
At least Colorado got a break.


Not so much....[Rant1]


http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31334368/detail.html

CrufflerSteve
08-06-2012, 10:08
Sikh's have been targets because they do look very foreign. Not cutting their hair, turbans and such. I've known a few and they were hardworking hardasses and real family men. As a previous poster mentioned, if we wanted allies against jihadis Sikh's would be at the top of the list.

I hope they fry Wade Michael Page or at least put him in solitary for the rest of his life. He'd find too many buddies in prison.

Steve

Danimal
08-06-2012, 10:25
Standing by for the hammer of "justice" to protect us all from these wackos. Why cant people see that they are so much better of protecting themselves than waiting for the police to show up? I understand the MI has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, but you would think that one of these times some one would stand up and drop these assholes stone cold before they kill a single innocent person. I guess that would not get any media attention though.

bigshane
08-06-2012, 11:33
CNN: "9mm handgun and multiple magazines" here we go...

SuperiorDG
08-06-2012, 11:39
I hope they fry Wade Michael Page or at least put him in solitary for the rest of his life. He'd find too many buddies in prison.

Steve

I thought he was dead?

cofi
08-06-2012, 11:39
CNN: "9mm handgun and multiple magazines" here we go...


yup its gonna end up being a g26 with 10 round mags and the media is going to scream that not only do we need to limit round capacity but why would anyone need more then one magazine

TFOGGER
08-06-2012, 12:01
Sikh's have been targets because they do look very foreign. Not cutting their hair, turbans and such. I've known a few and they were hardworking hardasses and real family men. As a previous poster mentioned, if we wanted allies against jihadis Sikh's would be at the top of the list.

I hope they fry Wade Michael Page or at least put him in solitary for the rest of his life. He'd find too many buddies in prison.

Steve

Sorry to disappoint, but the BG already got the death penalty. Shot a cop, tried to shoot his partner, got shot dead on the scene.

Ronin13
08-06-2012, 12:14
Sorry to disappoint, but the BG already got the death penalty. Shot a cop, tried to shoot his partner, got shot dead on the scene. Saved the taxpayers a ton of money on prosecution expenses and taxpayer-funded food, room, and board.

FTFY [Beer]

CrufflerSteve
08-06-2012, 12:18
Sorry to disappoint, but the BG already got the death penalty. Shot a cop, tried to shoot his partner, got shot dead on the scene.

I'm bad. Ever since Columbine I limit myself to massacre stories and I tuned out yesterday when they were still yammering about a second gunman. Death by cop is a fair end to this. Hope his moron friends get the legal equivalent of a proctological exam as the investigation goes on.

Steve

roberth
08-06-2012, 12:18
So I'm hearing that the powers-that-be are trying to declare this Nazi fuck a terrorist.

Why isn't the jihadi fuck Hassan a terrorist?

Does the government ignore the actions of these evil men and hang the "terrorist" label on them based on the creed of the individual in question?