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Rooskibar03
08-14-2012, 16:51
First it was DHS and now the national weather service. Do they know something we don't? Maybe it's time for more group buys.
http://www.infowars.com/national-weather-service-follows-dhs-in-huge-ammo-purchase/
1) Infowars.com ...seriously?
2) 46000 rounds is a lot? Since when?
3) WTF doe the NWS need with ammo? Training/equipping security guards and maintenance personnel for remote weather monitoring facilities, maybe?
1) Infowars.com ...seriously?
2) 46000 rounds is a lot? Since when?
3) WTF doe the NWS need with ammo? Training/equipping security guards and maintenance personnel for remote weather monitoring facilities, maybe?
Lol calm down sweetheart
Boulder Colorado isn't remote. I can't answer as to the other locations listed on the document.
16,000 to Boulder
8000 to Ellsworth, ME
8000 to New Bedford, MA
24000 to St Petersberg, FL
6000 to Wall, NJ
Sharpienads
08-14-2012, 17:20
I heard this earlier as well. Does NWS have some sort of Sever Weather Response/Rescue Team or anything like that? After what some of the people were doing in the aftermath of Katrina, I would want to be armed going into an area after a catastrophic event.
Boulder Colorado isn't remote. I can't answer as to the other locations listed on the document.
16,000 to Boulder
8000 to Ellsworth, ME
8000 to New Bedford, MA
24000 to St Petersberg, FL
6000 to Wall, NJ
The Boulder office folks service remote stations all over the Rocky Mountain west, including some that are 2-3 day hikes from the nearest paved road. I'm willing to be that some members here have more .40 than that on hand...[Beer]
Infowars is great for sensationalizing stuff. Like the mainstream media, but in reverse.
BushMasterBoy
08-14-2012, 17:43
They are probably just gonna shoot the breeze...
Very interesting ammo purchases by various government agencies it makes you pause and think a little....
I keep coming back to the question...what is Obamas stance on this? He is anti gun....so I wonder how he feels about arming all these people that he cannot controll.
Saw on Drudge a clarification was sent to the Washington Post by NOAA, claiming a "clerical error" and the order was for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement.
Rooskibar03
08-14-2012, 18:10
Saw on Drudge a clarification was sent to the Washington Post by NOAA, claiming a "clerical error" and the order was for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement.
Site was linked from Drudge and now I go back and see they have issued am update to the story.
Still keeping my Tin Foil hat nearby, just in case.
Great-Kazoo
08-14-2012, 18:29
Very interesting ammo purchases by various government agencies it makes you pause and think a little....
The .gov agencies are bulk buying because of price. The orders are not for 100K at one time, but spread out over the time of the contract. The feds do it every few years, you know bulk buying in order to secure a better price.
They also like, school districts and city transportation dept.s bulk bid on fuel to lock in a price that guarantees X price spread out over 1 year. No one complains or gets a case of the noids when denver buys 1 million gallons of fuel.
The validity remains in question, but it did claim that DHS has, across two orders, purchased 1.2Billion rounds.
That's a lot of ammo.
claimbuster
08-14-2012, 18:37
Need to fight off those "killer storms" :)
centrarchidae
08-14-2012, 18:49
Why DHS? DHS runs most of Uncle Sugar's LE training programs, including both FLETC campuses. Two police academies of that size will use a LOT of pistol ammo.
(Why they need enough cops to use that much training ammo is a different question and I don't see the answer as being too terribly convincing.)
Why NOAA fisheries LE office? 46K isn't that much. I'd be willing to bet that any six people on this site could use that up in a month.
FWIW, the NOAA campus in Boulder has a small police contingent of its own. I think there's something like 10-20 people there.
(Assuming that infowars isn't FoS, as usual.)
In this particular case, I am all for government excess. Years ago people stood in line for the free government cheese handouts. Well, I will be standing in line waiting for my share of 1.2 Billion rounds of .40 S&W [Coffee]
Sharpienads
08-14-2012, 19:00
They are probably just gonna shoot the breeze...
[ROFL1]
The Dept of Commerce (NOAA's momma) has its own police force, as does just about every federal agency, and NOAA has several uniformed services including their own fleet of ships and aircraft. Relax guys, worry about DHS' 1.2M rounds and leave the 46K to NOAA alone :)
The Dept of Commerce (NOAA's momma) has its own police force, as does just about every federal agency, and NOAA has several uniformed services including their own fleet of ships and aircraft. Relax guys, worry about DHS' 1.2M rounds and leave the 46K to NOAA alone :)
1.2B, not M.
The comment about buying in bulk, receive over time makes a lot of sense.
Still, 1.2B can't all be for duty carry/use. Why are we paying for that many carry loads for targe practice (if true)
BPTactical
08-14-2012, 19:29
They are probably just gonna shoot the breeze...
Well played[Beer]
1.2B, not M.
The comment about buying in bulk, receive over time makes a lot of sense.
Still, 1.2B can't all be for duty carry/use. Why are we paying for that many carry loads for targe practice (if true)
Some federal ranges require frangible, lead free ammunition. Most requals and regular practice is with duty ammunition. Train like you fight. I certainly never feel like I get enough ammunition issued to me [Coffee]
Great-Kazoo
08-14-2012, 19:40
1.2B, not M.
The comment about buying in bulk, receive over time makes a lot of sense.
Still, 1.2B can't all be for duty carry/use. Why are we paying for that many carry loads for targe practice (if true)
The guys i know @ FLETC [ a few:)]run drills day in day out, depending on who is training and why. All depts who train there run full a spectrum of firearms, semi [ long and hand] and select fire [short and long]. My brother was known to run 3-5k min. over the weekend, that was hand gun, add what he fired through the MP5's and other entry weapons, it's a lot.
How many here have attended advanced if not basic live fire classes where the requirements were
250 rounds of handgun
500-1000 rifle.
These were basic and bringing more was the norm for most students.
Multiply 1-2k of ammo per student x 2-5 days, times year round training, times number of training centers throughout the country. It adds up real quick. Do not forget this MASSIVE AMMO buy you're freaking out over, also includes the LE's and agents in the field, worldwide.
FWIW: iT is interesting how much worrying and hand wringing there is here because the .gov made a massive [ to say the least] ammo order.
YET.......No one here blinks over buying 1- 2 K of ammo online. "YOU KNOW HOLMES HAD SIX THOUSAND ROUNDS OF AMMO"!!!! The media screamed
Yet we agreed 6K was nothing.
Oh The Irony
1.2B, not M.
The comment about buying in bulk, receive over time makes a lot of sense.
Still, 1.2B can't all be for duty carry/use. Why are we paying for that many carry loads for targe practice (if true)
oops! Just a little off...
keylay31
08-14-2012, 20:04
Wish I could afford to train with the ammo I carry...
Wait, I do afford it, for them...
10mm-man
08-14-2012, 20:06
The guys i know @ FLETC [ a few:)]run drills day in day out, depending on who is training and why. All depts who train there run full a spectrum of firearms, semi [ long and hand] and select fire [short and long]. My brother was known to run 3-5k min. over the weekend, that was hand gun, add what he fired through the MP5's and other entry weapons, it's a lot.
How many here have attended advanced if not basic live fire classes where the requirements were
250 rounds of handgun
500-1000 rifle.
These were basic and bringing more was the norm for most students.
Multiply 1-2k of ammo per student x 2-5 days, times year round training, times number of training centers throughout the country. It adds up real quick. Do not forget this MASSIVE AMMO buy you're freaking out over, also includes the LE's and agents in the field, worldwide.
FWIW: iT is interesting how much worrying and hand wringing there is here because the .gov made a massive [ to say the least] ammo order.
YET.......No one here blinks over buying 1- 2 K of ammo online. "YOU KNOW HOLMES HAD SIX THOUSAND ROUNDS OF AMMO"!!!! The media screamed
Yet we agreed 6K was nothing.
Oh The Irony
How do you compare 6k rounds to billions? Thats just stypid!
Rucker61
08-14-2012, 20:42
How do you compare 6k rounds to billions? Thats just stypid!
You mispelt that's, moran!
Hypothetically lets say you could cure stupid with more education, then you could cure Freedom with more ammunition. Makes sense right? The one thing the government needs are people to do the dirty work. The few can control government and make laws but they will never (themselves) take your guns personally, they will try to use others. Maybe Noaa will step up and take my pistol from my cold dead hand.
Just did a quick google search and I came up with about 200,000 people working for DHS.
1,200,000,000,000 rounds / 200,000 people = 6,000,000 rounds per DHS employee.
Sorry Jim, but 1.2 billion rounds is a lot of damn ammo. I think the proper terminology for it is a "metric fuck-ton" of ammo....[ROFL1]
Maybe I need to acquire a .40sw[Tooth]
Maybe I need to acquire a .40sw[Tooth]
No way man. I've got first dibs on the contract over runs [Coffee]
No way man. I've got first dibs on the contract over runs [Coffee]
Then I challenge you to a duel!!!! I'll let you use my 1858 remy revolver and I get to use my 1911. Sound fair?
keylay31
08-14-2012, 22:20
Maybe I need to acquire a .40sw[Tooth]
I was just thinking that...
I was just thinking that...
Yeah, but my reasoning was completely different than what Cstone was thinking..... [Tooth]
Obviously, the best SHTF weapon would be an AK chambered in .40 S&W. That way you can pilfer all the unused ammo after every battle.
Obviously, the best SHTF weapon would be an AK chambered in .40 S&W. That way you can pilfer all the unused ammo after every battle.
When I ventured up to Wyoming to a gun show a few years back I was pondering the possibilities of acquiring a AK parts kit chambered in 5.56.
I was hesitant cause I didn't want to add yet another caliber to my never ending stock list.
Gun dealer says, " Yeah, but when the revolution happens you can pick up ammo off of all the dead cops.... They all shoot 5.56"
I ended up buying the kit...[Coffee]
Anybody know a good .40sw to get???[ROFL1]
keylay31
08-14-2012, 22:27
Yeah, but my reasoning was completely different than what Cstone was thinking..... [Tooth]
Ditto. Same reason I like 9mm and 5.56.
Then I challenge you to a duel!!!! I'll let you use my 1858 remy revolver and I get to use my 1911. Sound fair?
.58 caliber ball? One round each. I shoot first. You are on[Beer]
Irving, I can't imagine an AK in .40 S&W. I think I'm going to need a ruling from Rachel Ray of the AK. Would that round even cycle the action on most AKs?
Besides, I have my Kel Tec Sub 2000 in .40 to go with my Glock 22. I don't need anything else with a long barrel for a pistol caliber.
The more that gets bought, the more gets manufactured. The more made, should lower the price. Should be lots of once fired brass available as well.
Be safe.
.58 caliber ball? One round each. I shoot first. You are on[Beer]
Irving, I can't imagine an AK in .40 S&W. I think I'm going to need a ruling from Rachel Ray of the AK. Would that round even cycle the action on most AKs?
Besides, I have my Kel Tec Sub 2000 in .40 to go with my Glock 22. I don't need anything else with a long barrel for a pistol caliber.
The more that gets bought, the more gets manufactured. The more made, should lower the price. Should be lots of once fired brass available as well.
Be safe.
1858 is a .45cal. I only got one so you get that, I'll get my 1911.
People have made AKs chambered in .45acp. You make them as a blow back and not gas operated. People also make 7.62x25 blowback versions as well.
I'm sure someone some where has made one in 40sw. There is a guy on another board making a 50bmg AK from scratch. Its in the early stages but its coming along.
The validity remains in question, but it did claim that DHS has, across two orders, purchased 1.2Billion rounds.
That's a lot of ammo.
meh...you should see my basement[ROFL1]
meh...you should see my basement[ROFL1]
I don't think you could fit half a billion rounds of anything in your house.
You'll have to store the other half over at mine....
When I ventured up to Wyoming to a gun show a few years back I was pondering the possibilities of acquiring a AK parts kit chambered in 5.56.
I was hesitant cause I didn't want to add yet another caliber to my never ending stock list.
Gun dealer says, " Yeah, but when the revolution happens you can pick up ammo off of all the dead cops.... They all shoot 5.56"
I ended up buying the kit...[Coffee]
Anybody know a good .40sw to get???[ROFL1]
That's actually the story, and sentiment, that I was referring to/making fun of. :D
Great-Kazoo
08-14-2012, 22:54
It's 40 S&W who gives a shit.
It's 40 S&W who gives a shit.
[Wave]
I originally started an AK-74 kit and was planning to chamber it in 5.56, but then a Galil came along and although it is heavier than the average AK, it eats anything that it's fed. I have learned that steel is better in the AK and I am saving my brass 5.56 for the ARs. AKs are much harder on the brass than ARs.
They all have their place. I really try hard not to think about pilfering ammunition off of dead bodies. Bad karma [Help]
Be safe.
I originally started an AK-74 kit and was planning to chamber it in 5.56, but then a Galil came along and although it is heavier than the average AK, it eats anything that it's fed. I have learned that steel is better in the AK and I am saving my brass 5.56 for the ARs. AKs are much harder on the brass than ARs.
They all have their place. I really try hard not to think about pilfering ammunition off of dead bodies. Bad karma [Help]
Be safe.
I hope I never ever ever ever have to.
The AK shouldnt' be too bad on the brass. Especially if you tune the gas system right. I think the only thing that might hurt the brass is the ejector.
I hope I never ever ever ever have to.
The AK shouldnt' be too bad on the brass. Especially if you tune the gas system right. I think the only thing that might hurt the brass is the ejector.
Definitely the ejector. Puts a nice dent in the case. Much more noticeable than anything I've ever seen from an AR.
Great-Kazoo
08-14-2012, 23:18
Definitely the ejector. Puts a nice dent in the case. Much more noticeable than anything I've ever seen from an AR.
My 106 chews the brass like nothing. If i was fortunate enough to have one of the geAK's locally i could have them look at it.
Hey that brycom guy waved at me. [Stooge]
10mm-man
08-15-2012, 09:21
You mispelt that's, moran!
Cell phone post, wouldn't let me correct stupid!
ChunkyMonkey
08-15-2012, 10:01
Back to OP... inforwars = tinfoily
Great-Kazoo
08-15-2012, 10:44
Back to OP... inforwars = tinfoily
Tinfoily or tinFOLLY?
spqrzilla
08-15-2012, 10:47
However, its a real contract. NOAA has a small group that does fisheries enforcement in the ocean EEZ.
HoneyBadger
08-15-2012, 11:05
Okay fellas, I can understand wildlife officers needing ammo, even if they ARE getting 6 million rounds per person, but there is no excuse in the world for this: The Social Security Administration just purchased 174k .357 Sig JHP and it is to be distributed to Social Security offices around the country. (http://www.infowars.com/social-security-administration-to-purchase-174-thousand-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/) Just read the first 4 paragraphs and ignore the rest of the hype.
Call it tinfoily all you want, but can anyone come up with a good reason for the SSA to buy ammo? Even a single bullet?
Great-Kazoo
08-15-2012, 11:08
Okay fellas, I can understand wildlife officers needing ammo, even if they ARE getting 6 million rounds per person, but there is no excuse in the world for this: The Social Security Administration just purchased 174k .357 Sig JHP and it is to be distributed to Social Security offices around the country. (http://www.infowars.com/social-security-administration-to-purchase-174-thousand-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/) Just read the first 4 paragraphs and ignore the rest of the hype.
Call it tinfoily all you want, but can anyone come up with a good reason for the SSA to buy ammo? Even a single bullet?
That is weird seeing how the SSA office's here are manned by outside contract security, not SSA employees.
In other news i'm off to my favorite NOCO reloading supply store, just browsing
HoneyBadger
08-15-2012, 11:15
That is weird seeing how the SSA office's here are manned by outside contract security, not SSA employees.
My thought exactly. Is the SSA going to have its own security division or something? If they really are preparing for an uprising (as the tinfoily article suggests... lol) I think .357 Sig would not be their first choice. Strange choice of caliber, strange purchaser, lots of unknowns... Kind of makes me wonder which ammo manufacturer is in bed with the gov on this one.
Okay fellas, I can understand wildlife officers needing ammo, even if they ARE getting 6 million rounds per person, but there is no excuse in the world for this: The Social Security Administration just purchased 174k .357 Sig JHP and it is to be distributed to Social Security offices around the country. (http://www.infowars.com/social-security-administration-to-purchase-174-thousand-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/) Just read the first 4 paragraphs and ignore the rest of the hype.
Call it tinfoily all you want, but can anyone come up with a good reason for the SSA to buy ammo? Even a single bullet?
Most Federal Agencies, including the social security administration, have Federal Officers/Agents to enforce the laws they regulate. Think about it, even the post office has its own police force.
10mm-man
08-15-2012, 11:20
Most Federal Agencies, including the social security administration, have Federal Officers/Agents to enforce the laws they regulate. Think about it, even the post office has its own police force.
Yea, no need to worry people..... I am sure buys like these are common! Don't take the signs as any indication that something "might" be brewing. Don't even worry about it for one sec. With all those rounds you will be well protected when you go get your rations..........
That is weird seeing how the SSA office's here are manned by outside contract security, not SSA employees.
In other news i'm off to my favorite NOCO reloading supply store, just browsing
Federal Officers don't do building security, its not their jurisdiction (sort of) and sometimes cheaper to contract out.
All the building security at the Denver Federal Center and all the surrounding federal buildings is contracted out. If there is some kind of threat the FPS guys roll on it.
Okay fellas, I can understand wildlife officers needing ammo, even if they ARE getting 6 million rounds per person, but there is no excuse in the world for this: The Social Security Administration just purchased 174k .357 Sig JHP and it is to be distributed to Social Security offices around the country. (http://www.infowars.com/social-security-administration-to-purchase-174-thousand-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/) Just read the first 4 paragraphs and ignore the rest of the hype.
Call it tinfoily all you want, but can anyone come up with a good reason for the SSA to buy ammo? Even a single bullet?
Another future supply of cheap .357SIG! I hope they get Speer GDHP.
[HiFive]
hollohas
08-15-2012, 14:59
Call it tinfoily all you want, but can anyone come up with a good reason for the SSA to buy ammo? Even a single bullet?
A lot of people ask the same thing about you and I.
While it is concerning when obscure .gov agencies are stocking up because most of the reasons to do that domestically are scary ones...all I can say is make sure you have MORE than them.
Great-Kazoo
08-15-2012, 15:04
Another future supply of cheap .357SIG! I hope they get Speer GDHP.
[HiFive]
Cheap talk. Go up against a few SRT agents and see if you still think the same way.
I'm sure you're being sarcastic, but my sarcasm meter is on the blink.
HoneyBadger
08-15-2012, 15:07
Alright, here's the skinny: (I think)
This was really bothering me, so I started looking for some justification here. I spent about an hour searching the net until I found this (http://oig.ssa.gov/about-oig/careers). The link says that the SSA has an IG office with about 460 criminal investigators and auditors. IF these guys carry guns, the 174k rounds would afford them approximately 375 rounds per agent. No confirmation on whether or not they are armed, but if they are this sounds like a fairly routine and legitimate purchase.
Zundfolge
08-15-2012, 16:31
They are probably just gonna shoot the breeze...
BushMasterBoy wins the thread! [Beer]
BushMasterBoy
08-15-2012, 16:35
BushMasterBoy wins the thread! [Beer]
I went to the local social security office and pulled down my pants, they gave me disability...
Alright, here's the skinny: (I think)
This was really bothering me, so I started looking for some justification here. I spent about an hour searching the net until I found this (http://oig.ssa.gov/about-oig/careers). The link says that the SSA has an IG office with about 460 criminal investigators and auditors. IF these guys carry guns, the 174k rounds would afford them approximately 375 rounds per agent. No confirmation on whether or not they are armed, but if they are this sounds like a fairly routine and legitimate purchase.
The 174K of ammo is no big deal... The 1.2 billion is...
Hell, I'm sure a few members here have something close to 174K of ammo
BushMasterBoy
08-15-2012, 16:53
On a serious note, something is brewing that is bad. Not sure if it is going to be Iraeli-Iran war with huge oil price spikes, some kind of pandemic like West Nile virus or just the .gov chopping benefits to the entitlement crowd that refuse to work. The Department of Human Slavery buying 1.2 billion rounds of ammunition is surely a sign of things to come!
10mm-man
08-15-2012, 17:03
or just the .gov chopping benefits to the entitlement crowd that refuse to work.
Dude your joking RIGHT! When and were did you get this crazy idea?? This is the most crazy of all conspiracy ideas i have read on here!! [ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3]
Are you serious?
Just did a quick google search and I came up with about 200,000 people working for DHS.
1,200,000,000,000 rounds / 200,000 people = 6,000,000 rounds per DHS employee.
Sorry Jim, but 1.2 billion rounds is a lot of damn ammo. I think the proper terminology for it is a "metric fuck-ton" of ammo....[ROFL1]
Maybe I need to acquire a .40sw[Tooth]
You got 3 extra zeros in your number of rounds there. Still, if you take out about 3 zeros from that figure 6,000 rounds per DHS employee is a lot.
HoneyBadger
08-15-2012, 17:46
You got 3 extra zeros in your number of rounds there. Still, if you take out about 3 zeros from that figure 6,000 rounds per DHS employee is a lot.
Hahahaha I can't believe none of us caught that. [Stooge]
Great-Kazoo
08-15-2012, 17:55
You got 3 extra zeros in your number of rounds there. Still, if you take out about 3 zeros from that figure 6,000 rounds per DHS employee is a lot.
You feel Six Thousands rounds is a lot for one person. [Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
Shame on you, VPC send you a new membership card??
Does everyone here feel 6K is a lot of ammo for 1 person???
HoneyBadger
08-15-2012, 17:59
You feel Six Thousands rounds is a lot for one person. [Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
Shame on you, VPC send you a new membership card??
Does everyone here feel 6K is a lot of ammo for 1 person???
I have a "friend" who has almost that much for each gun in his basement. [Tooth]
You feel Six Thousands rounds is a lot for one person. [Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
Shame on you, VPC send you a new membership card??
Does everyone here feel 6K is a lot of ammo for 1 person???
Let me clarify what I meant to say... DHS employees are mostly unarmed (TSA, admin, clerical, etc) when you take out coast guard and other enforcement personnel and when you use that number, 1.2 billion rounds is probably a lot.
Hell I've got close to 6k rounds and I know lots of you guys have more than me. 6k rounds aint sheeeiiittt
jreifsch80
08-15-2012, 18:17
i'm too lazy to read the entire thread but there have been guys that have built 9mm and 7.62x25 gas operated ak's as well, im sure a .40 wouldn't be too hard also 40's rim is not too much smaller than 7.62x39 if someone has a .40sw reamer i'd be intereated in making a .40sw ak using a green mountain blank for fun, im sure grease gun mags with tweaked feed lips would work or maybe i would just make a magwell that takes glock mags :)
You got 3 extra zeros in your number of rounds there. Still, if you take out about 3 zeros from that figure 6,000 rounds per DHS employee is a lot.
Oh crap!! I think I added a couple more zeros in the calculator. [ROFL1]
If you look at my math on the post you'll see I took 1.2 trillion instead of billion. [Tooth]
Now the question is how many desk jockeys are in the DHS that don't have guns???? Figure that into the equation and that will increase that 6000 per employee.
Alright, here's the skinny: (I think)
This was really bothering me, so I started looking for some justification here. I spent about an hour searching the net until I found this (http://oig.ssa.gov/about-oig/careers). The link says that the SSA has an IG office with about 460 criminal investigators and auditors. IF these guys carry guns, the 174k rounds would afford them approximately 375 rounds per agent. No confirmation on whether or not they are armed, but if they are this sounds like a fairly routine and legitimate purchase.
This is the correct answer for SSA OIG. The SSA OIG office was first established by a retired US Secret Service agent. When he selected his staff, many of them were also retired USSS. They chose their handgun and ammunition based off of what they were using while working for the USSS. SIG P229, shooting either Federal or Speer .357 SIG JHP.
None of these contract numbers surprise me. As was stated in an earlier post, buy in bulk for cost savings. Spread the contract over multiple years and allow for extensions to lock in costs before the prices go up. Keeping that in mind, don't you want the government to try to use your tax dollars in a good way? The vast majority of this ammunition will be used up in monthly, quarterly, and annual requals. Contract over runs in any caliber I shoot makes me happy.
Besides, is anyone really worried about a group of armed Department of Education OIG agents storming the local Piggly Wiggly [ROFL1]
Be safe.
james_bond_007
08-15-2012, 19:54
Boulder Colorado isn't remote. I can't answer as to the other locations listed on the document.
16,000 to Boulder
8000 to Ellsworth, ME
8000 to New Bedford, MA
24000 to St Petersberg, FL
6000 to Wall, NJ
Geographically, Boulder, itself, may not be remote; but you got to admit....some of the residents are really "WAAAAYYYY out there..."
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-classifies-ammo-purchase-following-controversy/
The Department of Homeland Security has redacted information relating to the quantity of bullets it is buying following a controversy concerning the agency’s purchase of over a billion rounds of ammo, which many fear is a sign the federal government is preparing for civil unrest in the United States.
Despite the fact that documents are only supposed to be redacted if authorized by Congress or for national security reasons, a solicitation posted on the FedBizOpps website (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=311eb3ee003671285de8db1036b2b255&tab=core&tabmode=list&=) yesterday concerning ammunition purchases made by the DHS on behalf of Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) contains numerous blacked out sections (https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=4c35c09c9315981b2f82beee2fc6629d).
http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/august2012/150812shot1.jpg
JM Ver. 2.0
08-15-2012, 21:56
They are probably just gonna shoot the breeze...
I see what you did there...
infowars.? Thats like the National Enquirer with tin foil...
BushMasterBoy
08-16-2012, 07:17
Here is what happens when the economy tanks and the government can't really protect you:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-radio-and-tv-19269891
10mm-man
08-16-2012, 08:42
Here is what happens when the economy tanks and the government can't really protect you:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-radio-and-tv-19269891
Are you crazy? Like the Gov will never be there to protect us.....
Now the social security administration just requested 174k rounds.
http://drudgegae.iavian.net/r?hop=http%3A%2F%2Fcnsnews.com%2Fnews%2Farticle%2F social-security-administration-explains-plan-buy-174000-hollow-point-bullets
HoneyBadger
08-16-2012, 22:19
Now the social security administration just requested 174k rounds.
http://drudgegae.iavian.net/r?hop=http%3A%2F%2Fcnsnews.com%2Fnews%2Farticle%2F social-security-administration-explains-plan-buy-174000-hollow-point-bullets
Welcome to the thread! See post #60: http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showthread.php?p=584378#post584378 [Stooge]
Welcome to the thread! See post #60: http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showthread.php?p=584378#post584378 [Stooge]
Meh.......
That's what wings beer and drudge do on Thursday night.
AztecWarrior
09-05-2012, 03:43
What gives? What do you guys think SS is doing taking bids on suppliers to fill an order for 174,000 hollow points? Are they preparing for an economic collapse, resupplying, etc.? Could each of these bullets have the names of 174,000 Americans?
Sorry if this in the wrong section Admins feel free to move it if it is.
Mick-Boy
09-05-2012, 04:04
It's discussed in the thread about the National Weather Service purchasing ammo. See HoneyBadger's post here (http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showpost.php?p=584378&postcount=60).
Delfuego
09-05-2012, 10:28
Mods,
We really need a Tinfoil Hat smiley.
Thank you...
Great-Kazoo
09-05-2012, 18:20
Old news.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/social-security-administration-explains-plan-buy-174000-hollow-point-bullets
KevDen2005
09-05-2012, 18:56
174,000 rounds really isn't that much. It sounds like training and duty ammo for officers. I believe that all these agencies have some sort of investigations/security/etc that would be armed.
174,000 rounds really isn't that much. It sounds like training and duty ammo for officers. I believe that all these agencies have some sort of investigations/security/etc that would be armed.
I disagree. 174k rounds is way too many rounds for anyone but me [LOL]
SS Office of the Inspector General. They have 0343 Program Analysts (auditors) and 1811 Criminal Investigators (gun carriers). It's a tough job but someone has to do it... Congress passed a law [Stooge]
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