Why doesn't magpul make other mags?

[osok-308]

I was talking to a friend of mine who is a former army ranger. We were talking about the M9 that standard troops use and complained to me about how the mags they used for their M9s often would malfunction. He explained to me that while on duty in Iraq and Afghanistan, he used pmags and told me about how reliable they were when he was overseas. He then posed the question: "Why doesn't magpul make mags for handguns, like the beretta. I thought for a minute and couldn't answer why either. Anyone have any input on this?

[HoneyBadger]

Very different engineering. In the case of pistol mags, the polymer that they use isn't strong enough without the addition of metal feed lips. When asked why they didn't make Pmags for other AR calibers like 6.5 and 6.8, they replied that they would have to make the walls of the magazines thinner and the polymer wouldn't be strong enough. Basically, they wouldn't be able to produce a product that would uphold their reputation, so they don't. I respect them for that.

[osok-308]

That makes sense, Magpul is one of those companies that I do feel very comfortable buying products from. I love their stocks, mags, pistol grips, etc. I am glad to hear that if they couldn't do it right that they aren't going to do it. I knew about the 6.5 and 6.8 mags, but I was unaware of the pistol mags. I didn't realize they were that different.

[Rucker61]

I want to know why they aren't making replacement stocks for 10/22s. That's a huge market.

[HoneyBadger]

I want to know why they aren't making replacement stocks for 10/22s. That's a huge market.

That's a great question. We should all email them asking for 10/22 stocks! [AR15]

From their website:

GENERAL INQUIRIES
Phone: 1 877-462-4785
Fax: 303-828-3469
Email: magpul@magpul.com

[NightCat]

I'm waiting for the day they make a 6.8mm PMag....Bricks will be shat

[zteknik]

Now I'm no Rachel Ray but one would think it would be easy enough for them to make mags for the .556 ak,or any other mag for an ak.
I'd be all over them!!

[RYAN50BMG]

I'd like to see a Magpul M11/9 mag.

[Great-Kazoo]

Now I'm no Rachel Ray but one would think it would be easy enough for them to make mags for the .556 ak,or any other mag for an ak.
I'd be all over them!!


Buy the MSA mag adapter and run stock pmags I do:)
You newyawkers are behind the times, catch up, it's the new millennium

[zteknik]

Buy the MSA mag adapter and run stock pmags I do:)
You newyawkers are behind the times, catch up, it's the new millennium
Now were talkin!!
Yea they kept us New Yoikers in the dark ages!!! They even banned pitchforks with more than three prongs!![LOL]

[jerrymrc]

Buy the MSA mag adapter and run stock pmags I do:)
You newyawkers are behind the times, catch up, it's the new millennium

If I did not have so many .223 AK mags I would get one of these. My sar3's run on modded 74 mags as well. But it would be nice to just have one mag for both the ar and AK.

[SAnd]

Buy the MSA mag adapter and run stock pmags I do:)
You newyawkers are behind the times, catch up, it's the new millennium

Where can you get the adapter? I can't find one doing an internet search.

Thanks

[jerrymrc]

Where can you get the adapter? I can't find one doing an internet search.

Thanks


http://texasakdesigns.com/

[Akyla]

Since .223 and 5.45x39 are similar in size, I assume Pmags would work fine with this round. Anyone know for sure?

Considering the cost of AK-74 5.45 mags, this seems like a great alternative. Does anyone have the MSA mag adapter for a 5.45 AK-74? Does it feed reliably?

Think it would work in a Polish Tantal?

[zteknik]

Since .223 and 5.45x39 are similar in size, I assume Pmags would work fine with this round. Anyone know for sure?

Considering the cost of AK-74 5.45 mags, this seems like a great alternative. Does anyone have the MSA mag adapter for a 5.45 AK-74? Does it feed reliably?

Think it would work in a Polish Tantal?
I think the'll fit-I'd have to try it and get back to you.The Poles use a mag adapter for their Beryls-but there .556-I realy dont see why they wouldn't fit in a regular 5.45-magwell size is the same,and I even think the bullet guide on the trunnion is the same as well..

[Mule]

I'm waiting for the day they make a 6.8mm PMag....Bricks will be shat

This will be happening in the future. But, you will have to buy a different lower to fit them. What I was told is that they had a huge contract with a foreign govt but the mag had to fit a slightly modified AR/M4 lower... I can't remember what it is that got changed.

The short side of the story is this - the new lower is going to be around $200 from the MFG of it. I knew who it was at one time but tend to forget names quite fast.

The way I see it, if I can use a Pmag on my 6.8 for a $200ish Rx, my Spikes lower is getting tossed on something else.

[Great-Kazoo]

Since .223 and 5.45x39 are similar in size, I assume Pmags would work fine with this round. Anyone know for sure?

Considering the cost of AK-74 5.45 mags, this seems like a great alternative. Does anyone have the MSA mag adapter for a 5.45 AK-74? Does it feed reliably?

Think it would work in a Polish Tantal?

FWIW: I had 6 of the tapco 5.45 mags and they all functioned flawlessly.
We were loading pmags with 5.45x39 to see how they did. I still have some bulgarian 5.56 mags if you need to road test.

[Great-Kazoo]

If I did not have so many .223 AK mags I would get one of these. My sar3's run on modded 74 mags as well. But it would be nice to just have one mag for both the ar and AK.


That's why i went with the MSA unit, One mag ,multiple platforms.

[zteknik]

Since .223 and 5.45x39 are similar in size, I assume Pmags would work fine with this round. Anyone know for sure?

Considering the cost of AK-74 5.45 mags, this seems like a great alternative. Does anyone have the MSA mag adapter for a 5.45 AK-74? Does it feed reliably?

Think it would work in a Polish Tantal?
Just to get back to you--I loaded up one of my p mags with 5.45 and was able to fit around 25 rounds.At about 15 rounds it started to load hard.
It only feeds about 14 rounds smoothly,anything over that wont feed properley.I only tested the mag and wasn't able to insert into a rifle.
My guess is due to the slight size difference in the round it follows in the mag differently.
You might be able to mod the follower so the round sits better,dunno just guessing at this point...

[Adawg38]

They were suppose to be making 40 rounder Pmags for the .223 at one time and I think they must of decided not to and backed out. Also where are those new Pmags that were suppose to be out in spring and then summer?

[splogan]

I want some m14 p mags, maybe some FAL ones also

[Great-Kazoo]

I want some m14 p mags, maybe some FAL ones also

. Once again the inside dimensions to mfg a decent not paper thin mag would not be a functioning one as the round would not fit.

[MarkCO]

They do make .308 mags that work in the DPMS pattern ARs.

Metal inserts in injection molded parts is a bit more complex from both an engineering and design perspective. While the design is probably workable for them, I doubt their vendors who do the IM for them have the automation and tooling capable of doing the metal inserts. Add to that a second vendor to manufacture the metal parts and deliver them to the IM vendor. MP would need an employee on site to do QC of the metal parts before release to the IM process. When all is said and done, the cost will be higher and the logistics will be more complicated.

When as a company you sell ALL the $2 magazines you can produce for $8 or so, why would you transfer resources to manufacture $6 magazines you can only sell for $15?

[BPTactical]

Any idea what the tooling costs are alone? Way expensive, I was talking to a gent I know that manages a large scale CNC facility. To re tool for a production run it can cost upwards of a million cash. Now figure what it is going to take to recoup those costs once production commences.
And we have not even considered R&D cost, mold making etc.

[Great-Kazoo]

Any idea what the tooling costs are alone? Way expensive, I was talking to a gent I know that manages a large scale CNC facility. To re tool for a production run it can cost upwards of a million cash. Now figure what it is going to take to recoup those costs once production commences.
And we have not even considered R&D cost, mold making etc.

Not taking in to account this administration enacting another AWB. Imagine how much a loss any mfg that just started tooling up would loose.