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asmo
08-29-2012, 12:57
http://forfeiturereform.com/2012/08/28/yet-another-agency-gets-authority-to-seize-cash-that-might-have-something-to-do-with-drugs/



On August 28, 2012, in federal (http://forfeiturereform.com/category/federal/), by Scott Alexander Meiner



Attorney General Eric Holder has granted (https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2012/08/27/2012-20923/authorization-to-seize-property-involved-in-drug-offenses-for-administrative-forfeiture-2012r-9p) the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) authority, for a one-year trial period, to seize and administratively forfeit property allegedly involved in controlled substance offenses pursuant to United States Code Title 21 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/usc_sup_01_21) › Chapter 13 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/usc_sup_01_21_10_13) › Subchapter I (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/usc_sup_01_21_10_13_20_I) › Part E (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/usc_sup_01_21_10_13_20_I_30_E) › § 881 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/881).
21 U.S.C. § 881 is, among other things, often invoked to seize and forfeit bulk currency, where no drugs are found, on theories that the currency was furnished, or intended to be furnished, in exchange for a controlled substance.

AG Holder’s rulemaking announcement declared that such changes are exempt from the general notice and comment requirements because the department determined that the change does not affect individual rights and obligations.

AG Holder also declared that this rule change lacks sufficient federalism implications to warrant the preparation of a federalism summary impact statement.

ChunkyMonkey
08-29-2012, 13:21
Colorado MMJ's bank accounts are about to be seized.

Irving
08-29-2012, 13:32
Doesn't this fall ourside of ATF controls? Shouldn't this be done by DEA?

sellersm
08-29-2012, 13:33
Just think of the implications this could have for firearms owners...

Great-Kazoo
08-29-2012, 13:46
Colorado MMJ's bank accounts are about to be seized.


Exactly. This will happen across the USofA where MMJ has been approved by the voters. The feds have been hitting a brick wall when it comes to mmj / gun owners. Allowing forfeiture w/out congressional review fast tracks it to happen yesterday.

brutal
08-29-2012, 14:47
So now that mattress full of money is deemed drug money without reasonable suspicion? What about those that hoard gold or silver?

UN-fucking-believable.

Just one more move that shows we need to out these socialist bastards that strips more rights from us daily.

sellersm
08-29-2012, 14:50
Think about it, it's not just $$$ and currency alternatives! "Property" means anything.

"We know those items in the safe are going to be used for drug deals, so they gotta go".

So does this mean all the assets involved in F&F are going to be seized?

buffalobo
08-29-2012, 14:52
Another step on the path...

Great-Kazoo
08-29-2012, 16:31
I just purchased a bag of weed. I helped terrorist buy AK 47's

Remember that tv PSA. Lasted about 2 weeks before people realized you have to buy a few kilo's of weed to buy AK's. [ROFL1]

Presidential privilege, Executive Orders, Enacting new "laws' w/out congressional approval the slippery slope to the next phase of O's NWO

bigun1962
08-29-2012, 18:49
When everything goes to hell, ammo will be the currency. If you have it you will eat. Period.

buckshotbarlow
08-29-2012, 19:31
crap, gotta get the kenyan outta there along with his sidekick holder. Time to invest in some polygunbags i guess...