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So today I had my dogs groomed and because they're getting pretty old 13 and 14 I decided to shell out the cash for a mobile groomer ($100/dog) for a wash and trim.
Anyways long story short. She arrived and seemed to be a dog person so I trusted her and let her groom the first dog who isn't nearly as unruly as my second. Everything went well with the first one. The second one HATES being groomed and at the old groomer we used to use they would always muzzle him. I informed her that he needs to be muzzled... (He's got dog cancer, had both of his ACL's torn and operated on, had surgery for cherry eye on both eyes and has random seizures due to the cancer) She chose not to muzzle him, said everything went perfect until like 95% of it and she thought she was going to be the first groomer in the 14 years of his life that didn't need to muzzle him. Anyways. She went to trim his paws and he apparently turned into a very unhappy aggressive dog and nipped her once on the finger but got her pretty good.
My dogs never bitten anyone before except me when I tried to pick him up when he was sleeping... Should I be concerned? I don't want my dog to get put down when he has so little life left anyways.
Also, they're American cockers so they're not a large dog by any means and the puncture wound was quite small.
Bailey Guns
09-05-2012, 20:33
I wouldn't be too concerned. I think that's kind of job hazard for groomers. If a dog was put down every time it bit a vet or groomer or whatever, there likely would be very few dogs left.
What did the groomer do?
Great-Kazoo
09-05-2012, 20:37
Part of the job, the groomer was verbally informed of this prior to starting.
BAN THE BREED! (sorry had to)
I have a friend who runs a dog grooming service, it's apparently a pretty good business.. yes it's mobile. Anywho.. she said she's been bitten by lots of dogs and it's never been bad, but she's used to it.. some dogs will do that especially w/ their paws. My puppy went a bit nuts when she was trimming his nails for me.. and he has no issues w/ his paws being played with by me, or even when I trim them..
I don't think you have to worry, hazard of the job.
Tinelement
09-05-2012, 20:43
I wouldn't be too concerned. I think that's kind of job hazard for groomers. If a dog was put down every time it bit a vet or groomer or whatever, there likely would be very few dogs left.
What did the groomer do?
Part of the job, the groomer was verbally informed of this prior to starting.
Agreed and agreed!
My dogs will let you groom the crap outta of them! Both love it. Saint Bernard and a Greater Swiss Mtn dog. But, both of them freak the hell out when you touch their feet. They hate it!!
I wouldn't worry about it.
I wouldn't be too concerned. I think that's kind of job hazard for groomers. If a dog was put down every time it bit a vet or groomer or whatever, there likely would be very few dogs left.
What did the groomer do?
Apparently she picked up a paw with a pretty big bump on it (Which I informed her was there and he was touchy about) and he had at it. Otherwise he was an angel throughout his grooming which actually really surprises me as he hates baths and the clipper noise.
Bailey Guns
09-05-2012, 21:00
Well, that makes sense that your dog freaked a little. But I meant what did the groomer do about the bite? Did he/she say or do anything?
He is an old dog, you warned her, he has a history of needing muzzled for good reason.
Old dogs are like old people, don't feel as good, things hurt, they are grumpy and snap easier. Not a problem IMO.
buckshotbarlow
09-05-2012, 21:07
i think you did a good job, told her the 2nd pup was a crankersourass. My last dog got the same way, with kids, we had to put him down...
Well, that makes sense that your dog freaked a little. But I meant what did the groomer do about the bite? Did he/she say or do anything?
She just put a band aid on it... Not sure if she disinfected it or what. I just don't want to get sued for future medical bills.
Also I wasn't there until the end so I didn't know it had happened until she was done grooming him. But when I walked into the bus thing she was putting on a band aid on the puncture wound.
Great-Kazoo
09-05-2012, 21:14
Flashing back (yeah flashback) One of our dogs was a tad bitey:) Anytime she was groomed wife gave the groomer a muzzle. Newer groomer IGNORES Advice and muzzle. She gets bit and decides to make an issue of the bite. Told her TFB not the first time in for grooming, HAD YOU read the info on her you would have seen the DOG MUST BE MUZZLED BEFORE HANDLING. She dropped her "complaint" faster than a hooker's panties, on payday.
Ignore it stop, worrying and enjoy the time you have left with you pups.
One more item. What is the business policy regarding a bite, report and fill out incident report or ?????
lead_magnet
09-05-2012, 21:19
Also, they're American cockers so they're not a large dog by any means and the puncture wound was quite small.
Alot of the dogs bites I've come across are cockers.
If you want my truthful opinion, every dog in my life (either mine or my dads) that has ever nipped anyone has been shot within the hour. If it was mine it would be a .25 problem. But it's your dog, do what you think is right.
Tinelement
09-05-2012, 21:21
Alot of the dogs bites I've come across are cockers.
If you want my truthful opinion, every dog in my life (either mine or my dads) that has ever nipped anyone has been shot within the hour. If it was mine it would be a .25 problem. But it's your dog, do what you think is right.
So you guys get a new dog every few months??
funkymonkey1111
09-05-2012, 21:25
i wouldn't sweat it for another second.
Great-Kazoo
09-05-2012, 21:26
Alot of the dogs bites I've come across are cockers.
If you want my truthful opinion, every dog in my life (either mine or my dads) that has ever nipped anyone has been shot within the hour. If it was mine it would be a .25 problem. But it's your dog, do what you think is right.
Yeah i hear ya. We did the same thing to my aunt her last month. Kept pissing her bed and puking up blood. Bang, adios auntie! Damn i hate cancer, throws a wrench in to your life. How selfish of them.
lead_magnet
09-05-2012, 21:27
So you guys get a new dog every few months??
No, most dogs don't bite people if raised properly (aside from play but that is a different ball of wax) a bite or even a nip out of agression or fear is an automatic trip one way trip outside.
Tinelement
09-05-2012, 21:33
Apparently she picked up a paw with a pretty big bump on it (Which I informed her was there and he was touchy about) and he had at it. Otherwise he was an angel throughout his grooming which actually really surprises me as he hates baths and the clipper noise.
No, most dogs don't bite people if raised properly (aside from play but that is a different ball of wax) a bite or even a nip out of agression or fear is an automatic trip one way trip outside.
So an old pup with cancer and an injury put in a strange position means it wasn't raised properly?
You trap me and push on an injury I'm gonna come unspooled too.
Bailey Guns
09-05-2012, 21:42
No, most dogs don't bite people if raised properly (aside from play but that is a different ball of wax) a bite or even a nip out of agression or fear is an automatic trip one way trip outside.
Yeah. Most dogs. Glad I'm not one of your disposable dogs.
ETA: There are only a handful of people in this world who's life I value more than my dogs.
funkymonkey1111
09-05-2012, 21:56
Yeah. Most dogs. Glad I'm not one of your disposable dogs.
ETA: There are only a handful of people in this world who's life I value more than my dogs.
seriously, why even engage this idiot?
hghclsswhitetrsh
09-05-2012, 22:35
ETA: There are only a handful of people in this world who's life I value more than my dogs.
This! Hell yeah.
lead_magnet
09-06-2012, 03:27
seriously, why even engage this idiot?
Really, it's just a dog. I would like to think that my opinion on such a small matter wouldn't be the deciding factor as to my intelectual capabilities. If my apathy for the life of a dog makes me an idiot, I wonder what my apathy for the life of a human would make me.
Really guys, I know that there is an "emotional" attachment that some of you have towards dogs. I've even felt a twinge of that in the past, but it's just an animal. No different than a prarie dog (that many of us kill for no reason other than fun), or a pig, or a cow or any other of God's four legged creatures.
I could undertand labeling me as an "idiot" if I was a first time poster that just joined a week ago and started babeling about my liberal tree huging ways, but really? It's a dog, I suppose I fail to understand thier value.
It comes down to a VERY simple formula: Human > Animal
lead_magnet
09-06-2012, 03:29
So an old pup with cancer and an injury put in a strange position means it wasn't raised properly?
You trap me and push on an injury I'm gonna come unspooled too.
So a human with some sort of massive emotional trauma and a drug adiction can be just as desperate, but you and I wouldn't bother to cut one down with lead if he/she became a threat to another man, so why does the dog get special treatment? Rethink that.
Bailey Guns
09-06-2012, 05:09
I'm not going to call you names because we disagree. I will try to explain why a dog, to me, isn't "just a dog".
Every dog I've had has provided me companionship that most people can't or won't. My dogs were always happy to lay in my lap or go on a great "adventure" at a moment's notice. They don't judge. They don't hold grudges. They generally want only the most basic of things that I'm able to provide. They don't care what I look like, what my political views are, what kind of car I drive, how much money I make. Their love isn't tied to any conditions other than I don't hurt them.
They are not the same as a prairie dog or a deer or any other animal...at least a non-domesticated animal. If I have to explain why, well...just think about it.
It's really a shame you feel the way you do about dogs. Not so much for the dog, but for you. You're missing out on one of the most wonderful things this world has to offer.
I know all that sounds very cliche but dog people will get it.
Whistler
09-06-2012, 06:12
Really, it's just a dog. I would like to think that my opinion on such a small matter wouldn't be the deciding factor as to my intelectual capabilities. If my apathy for the life of a dog makes me an idiot, I wonder what my apathy for the life of a human would make me.
Really guys, I know that there is an "emotional" attachment that some of you have towards dogs. I've even felt a twinge of that in the past, but it's just an animal. No different than a prarie dog (that many of us kill for no reason other than fun), or a pig, or a cow or any other of God's four legged creatures.
I could undertand labeling me as an "idiot" if I was a first time poster that just joined a week ago and started babeling about my liberal tree huging ways, but really? It's a dog, I suppose I fail to understand thier value.
It comes down to a VERY simple formula: Human > Animal
Psychopath?
Joking. My wife feels very much the same way about animals due to her upbringing, as a child they moved frequently and she never developed any attachment to their short-term pets. Now that she has been around my dogs for years they are like children to her and she couldn't imagine harming such loving, dedicated creatures.
I've put down my share of dogs over the years, the last a 6yo female Rottweiler that cornered my brother, the dog didn't bite but was unbalanced and a danger so I put a .38 in her head. She had been abused before I got her and IMO it's important you look at WHY the dog felt the need to bite. Sort of like a cop kneeling on the back of your neck screaming "stop resisting!". If it friggin' hurts I'm going to react and so would a dog or any creature; it's called "self preservation".
With Bailey Guns on this one; I like most dogs better than I like most people.
my dog is great till the feet and then look out !! i have found that a lot of dogs hate to have their paws messed with .
hghclsswhitetrsh
09-06-2012, 07:07
my dog is great till the feet and then look out !! i have found that a lot of dogs hate to have their paws messed with .
That's how my bloodhound is. I think his nails we clipped to short when he was getting detailed at petsmart. 140 pounds is a lot of upset dog to handle, thankfully he just runs off and never bites.
StagLefty
09-06-2012, 07:46
Old dogs are like old people, don't feel as good, things hurt, they are grumpy and snap easier. Not a problem IMO.
Ahhh-now I understand my mood swings better [ROFL1]
DD977GM2
09-06-2012, 07:53
Part of the job, the groomer was verbally informed of this prior to starting.
+1
Ahhh-now I understand my mood swings better [ROFL1]
It's all very simple! That is where the term "ya old dog" came from[ROFL1]
funkymonkey1111
09-06-2012, 11:43
Human > Animal
in your case, not really.
So an old pup with cancer and an injury put in a strange position means it wasn't raised properly?
You trap me and push on an injury I'm gonna come unspooled too.
This ^
No, most dogs don't bite people if raised properly (aside from play but that is a different ball of wax) a bite or even a nip out of agression or fear is an automatic trip one way trip outside.
Wow! That is the most insensitive and idiotic remark that I have come across in a while. Either someone took a royal piss in your Cheerios this morning or you just get your jollies of unnecessarily trolling other people's posts.
Should I be concerned? I don't want my dog to get put down when he has so little life left anyways.
Dog groomers, vet, vet techs, trainers and any other person who deals with animals on regular basis know that nip (or even a bite) every now and then is a risk that is part of the job.
Byte Stryke
09-06-2012, 17:22
I seriously Miss having a dog.
if you gave fair warning and she CHOSE not to muzzle him, knowing FULL WELL he has a condition, her fault.
Do not sweat it.
Lead Magnet, I am sorry for you.
I won't call you names or engage into a debate.
I am just sorry for you.
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