And there she goes again...

[Skukripion]

http://www.scpr.org/news/2012/09/05/34168/senator-feinstein-says-shell-reintroduce-gun-legis/

[Censor]

Edit: I typed *there into their in the title...Argh[Abused]

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

This is my surprised face.

[brutal]

They just don't get it do they?

In all cases, where guns are most severely restricted, violent crime is up. In all cases where law abiding citizens own and carry guns, violent crime decreases. What is so difficult to understand about this simple fact?

[Bang]

[Sharpienads]

[Mad]

Retarded.

[Skukripion]

They just don't get it do they?

In all cases, where guns are most severely restricted, violent crime is up. In all cases where law abiding citizens own and carry guns, violent crime decreases. What is so difficult to understand about this simple fact?

[Bang]

DC Eggheads: "Well the Common Wealth disarmed, France disarmed, Denmark disarmed, and Germany disarmed. We should too, or they are gonna call us unfair."

[Goodburbon]

see you in tea.

[Bailey Guns]

All things considered, that RNC platform statement on the 2A kinda looks a little better now, doesn't it?

[J]

Edit: I typed *there into their in the title...Argh[Abused]

FIFY

[buffalobo]

All things considered, that RNC platform statement on the 2A kinda looks a little better now, doesn't it?

Yep, it's about as shiney as a turd can get.

That psycho bitch should be first in line for tar and feathers.

[sniper7]

I don't understand how this fucking moron still has a job. Clearly an attack on constitution rights, yet she is still allowed to wonder around the streets of DC.

[Ronin13]

Yep, it's about as shiney as a turd can get.

That psycho bitch should be first in line for an orange jumpsuit and bars.

FTFY. [Beer]

Reminds me of that one woman who was a CCW holder in CA (back when it was less restrictive than now- kind of) who was enjoying lunch with her parents when a gunman came in and killed her parents before her eyes because she wasn't allowed to bring her gun into the restaurant- it was in her car. That's just slap-in-the-face proof that an unarmed society is a victim rich society. They're told over and over by the NRA, gun-friendly businesses and people, hunters, sport shooters, and even musicians (Uncle Ted) that laws only hurt those who obey them. "When you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." [Bang] Stupid Charlie Uniform November Tango!

[Skukripion]

FIFY

Thanks, how did you fix that?

[Skukripion]

FTFY. [Beer]

Reminds me of that one woman who was a CCW holder in CA (back when it was less restrictive than now- kind of) who was enjoying lunch with her parents when a gunman came in and killed her parents before her eyes because she wasn't allowed to bring her gun into the restaurant- it was in her car. That's just slap-in-the-face proof that an unarmed society is a victim rich society. They're told over and over by the NRA, gun-friendly businesses and people, hunters, sport shooters, and even musicians (Uncle Ted) that laws only hurt those who obey them. "When you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." [Bang] Stupid Charlie Uniform November Tango!

From my understanding, if you hold a CCW, then you can just ignore those "gun-free zone" signs, as long as you dont take out your gun and show it off.

[Skukripion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07fTsF5BiSM&feature=player_embedded

[Ronin13]

Thanks, how did you fix that?
Like so: [Beer]

Yep, it's about as shiney as a turd can get.

That psycho bitch should be first in line for tar and feathers.
My correction: That psycho bitch should be first in line for an orange jumpsuit and bars.


From my understanding, if you hold a CCW, then you can just ignore those "gun-free zone" signs, as long as you dont take out your gun and show it off.
Like gets tossed around here like a Colombian hooker at a Secret Service party (too soon? [LOL]): "Concealed means concealed!" [Beer]

[TFOGGER]

FTFY. [Beer]

Reminds me of that one woman who was a CCW holder in CA (back when it was less restrictive than now- kind of) who was enjoying lunch with her parents when a gunman came in and killed her parents before her eyes because she wasn't allowed to bring her gun into the restaurant- it was in her car. That's just slap-in-the-face proof that an unarmed society is a victim rich society. They're told over and over by the NRA, gun-friendly businesses and people, hunters, sport shooters, and even musicians (Uncle Ted) that laws only hurt those who obey them. "When you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." [Bang] Stupid Charlie Uniform November Tango!

Actually, the incident you are thinking of was in Texas, before it was a "shall issue" state. Google "Luby's Restaurant shooting".

[Ronin13]

Actually, the incident you are thinking of was in Texas, before it was a "shall issue" state. Google "Luby's Restaurant shooting".

That's right... Texas... Didn't she speak at the RNC too?

[Skukripion]

Actually, the incident you are thinking of was in Texas, before it was a "shall issue" state. Google "Luby's Restaurant shooting".

What does "shall issue" state mean?

[buffalobo]

TFOGGER beat me to it. Ruby's in Killeen, Texas

Suzanna Gratia Hupp, check out the youtube of her testimony to Texas legislature.

[TFOGGER]

What does "shall issue" state mean?

As far as CCW goes, the 49 states that issue permits fall into the category of either "May issue" which places the decision to issue a permit at the discretion of one person or group, or "shall issue", which means that under statute, the issuing authority must issue a permit to anyone that meets the requirements that applies. In practice "may issue" in many cases means there ain't no f**king way the average person is going to get a permit, unless they are wealthy and/or politically connected. Colorado is a Shall Issue state, one does not need to show cause for a permit to be issued, just meet the criteria outlined in Colorado Revised Statute 18-12-203. Sheriffs in Colorado can still deny a permit for cause, but they must be able to justify the denial, and it is subject to judicial review.

[Skukripion]

As far as CCW goes, the 49 states that issue permits fall into the category of either "May issue" which places the decision to issue a permit at the discretion of one person or group, or "shall issue", which means that under statute, the issuing authority must issue a permit to anyone that meets the requirements that applies. In practice "may issue" in many cases means there ain't no f**king way the average person is going to get a permit, unless they are wealthy and/or politically connected. Colorado is a Shall Issue state, one does not need to show cause for a permit to be issued, just meet the criteria outlined in Colorado Revised Statute 18-12-203. Sheriffs in Colorado can still deny a permit for cause, but they must be able to justify the denial, and it is subject to judicial review.

What are some of the "may(never) issue states"? I need to know where not to live in the future.

[TFOGGER]

What are some of the "may(never) issue states"? I need to know where not to live in the future.

Color coded. If you click on the state that issues your permit, it will show your who does or does not honor that permit. If you have more than one (Like a Colorado resident permit and a Utah non-resident permit), click your state of residence first, then the state(s) of you nonresident permits.

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

[theGinsue]

Thanks, how did you fix that?
Requires moderator level permissions.

[centrarchidae]

What are some of the "may(never) issue states"? I need to know where not to live in the future.

Illinois is the only state with no provision for private citizens to CCW at all.

Several others give some official discretion as to whether to issue a permit or not: Hawaii, California, NY, NJ, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Delaware, Maryland, and Massachusetts. Your odds depend on where in the state you are (Upstate NY and western MA are relatively accomodating, compared to NYC or Boston) and (SF Bay Area is notorious for this) how much you've contributed to the sitting sheriff's last campaign.

A few states (Vermont, Alaska, Arizona, and possibly Wyoming but I forgot) don't require a license at all, or at least not under most circumstances. AK and AZ will issue a license, just so that their own residents can take advantage of reciprocity while traveling.

The remainder are shall-issue, in that some standard for licensure is written into law and the issuing official doesn't get any choice in whether to issue a license to someone who meets the set standard.

[SA Friday]

That's right... Texas... Didn't she speak at the RNC too?

Dude, seriously? She became a congresswoman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp