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encorehunter
09-07-2012, 19:05
I'm in the market for a new set of 285/75 R16s for my GMC Duramax. I haven't been having the best of luck with tires since the Michelins that came on it originally. I want a little more aggressive tread than the Michelins. My last two sets of tires have not made it past 15K miles. One set was Buckshot Mudders (15K), which I know are too soft, the others are Hercules Terra Trac (12K).
My truck is souped up a little, but I don't spin the tires. I do haul pretty heavy loads on a monthly basis, sometimes a bit more.
I would like an all terrain or a little more aggressive tire. It does need to be 10ply. I would like to get 30k-50k out of a set, if possible. I have 3 sets of rims for the truck, but I would like to just go with one set of tires for the year. I've tried the spare set of tires for the winter, but storage and the pain on swapping them is getting old.
My boss just put a set of 10ply BFGs on her half ton, and after 20K miles, the rocks from 10 miles of dirt roads a day has torn them to shreds. They were what I was going to buy, but no I am having second thoughts.
What tires have you diesel guys had good luck with?
30 to 50k on a set of all terrain tires isn't gonna happen. Have you looked at the Michelin LTX AT2 tires? I know they aren't the most aggressive, but they are a very good tire.
I'm running Falken High Country A/T 245/75R16's on my 2004 F-350 Crew Cab 6.0L PSD. They've done well so far.
I'm on my second set of Nitto Trail Grapplers. The size I use is 35-12.50/17. I got 50k out of my first set that I replaced just last week. I run them on my 2009 Dodge Ram 3500 with the Cummins. Some people hate on them for whatever reason, but I have nothing but great things to say about them.
encorehunter
09-07-2012, 19:25
30 to 50k on a set of all terrain tires isn't gonna happen. Have you looked at the Michelin LTX AT2 tires? I know they aren't the most aggressive, but they are a very good tire.
These are the tires I had on it at first. They lasted well, but they don't work in the mud and the snow. I may have to just keep doing the 2 sets of tires a year. I'll check the Falkens, as that is what my brother just put on his Cummins. I've looked into the Nittos, but I'll look again.
Bailey Guns
09-07-2012, 19:34
I've had two diesels..an F350 and an F250. The 350 never got more than 15K out of any set of tires. I'd have to start looking for new tires at about 12K. That was about 6-8 months of driving. The 250 did much better but I didn't drive it up and down the hill from Bailey to Denver and back every day.
But 30-50 thousand is really optimistic on a heavy truck in my opinion. Especially if you're looking at something like a load range "E" tire.
BFG all terrains are what you need. You should be able to pull 40K without much problem if you keep them rotated. Consider buying 5 and doing a 5tire rotation pattern, that way the spare gets some miles too.
You really can't beat BFG's. They will perform great off road as well, especially if aired down.
It probably came with the regular LTX AT's Not the AT2's.
Here is the AT2:http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x191/jmg8550/tire1.jpg
Here is the regular AT that probably came with the truck:http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x191/jmg8550/tire2.jpg
We put them on company trucks that were 2 wheel drive. The employees really liked them. They quit getting stuck all the time.
BFG all terrains are what you need. You should be able to pull 40K without much problem if you keep them rotated. Consider buying 5 and doing a 5tire rotation pattern, that way the spare gets some miles too.
You really can't beat BFG's. They will perform great off road as well, especially if aired down.
EEEGGGHH noway. BFG's are the most overrated tires in the world.
Lok into Cooper, Kelley, MultiMile, Toyo. all make good LT tires with better milage than you will ever see out of a BFG Overpriced stuff.
Tinelement
09-07-2012, 19:48
I'm on my second set of Nitto Trail Grapplers. The size I use is 35-12.50/17. I got 50k out of my first set that I replaced just last week. I run them on my 2009 Dodge Ram 3500 with the Cummins. Some people hate on them for whatever reason, but I have nothing but great things to say about them.
That's what I run.
I have 30k on mine currently. They need to be replaced. But I am pretty happy with 30k and a few smoke shows!!
I will be buying these again.
I'm not a big fan of bfg's either after my friends telling me they got 15k out of them. Both were on newer model duramax gmc's. Out of the ones Mtn.man mentioned, i like the coopers and Toyo's.
EEEGGGHH noway. BFG's are the most overrated tires in the world.
Lok into Cooper, Kelley, MultiMile, Toyo. all make good LT tires with better milage than you will ever see out of a BFG Overpriced stuff.
BFG's are expensive but I will keep buying them based on my experience. I had a set on my last 3/4 ton and got almost 60K on them. Probably could have got 65 but winter was coming and we live in the hills so it was time.
I have had them on jeeps that I took through some serious rocks and they were tough as nails. Great traction off road and good manners on road.
Not sure what to think of the nitto selection. They seem awesome and are relatively cheap. Almost seems too good but a lot of guys love them. I'm a little concerned with tire weight on my current pickup as gas MPG is something I'm trying to preserve. I'm almost due and I'm 95 percent sure I'm getting BFG'S.
It seems like with some tires it's really hit or miss. Ex. The huge difference in miles out of the bfg's.
Also, if you need to check out prices, here's a few websites that I looked at before buying. I ended up finding the best price and then having discount tire match that.
Keep in mind tirebuyer has free shipping on all tires to most areas.
Tiresdirect.net
Treaddepot.com
Tirecrawler.net
Tirebuyer.com
30 to 50k on a set of all terrain tires isn't gonna happen. Have you looked at the Michelin LTX AT2 tires? I know they aren't the most aggressive, but they are a very good tire.
I get 55k out of my BFG A/Ts that are only D rated on my cummins towing 8-10k almost daily. My dad get 65k on the same tire but E rated.
I'm on my second set of Nitto Trail Grapplers. The size I use is 35-12.50/17. I got 50k out of my first set that I replaced just last week. I run them on my 2009 Dodge Ram 3500 with the Cummins. Some people hate on them for whatever reason, but I have nothing but great things to say about them.
Haven't tried these but had terrible luck with the TerraGrapplers
EEEGGGHH noway. BFG's are the most overrated tires in the world.
Lok into Cooper, Kelley, MultiMile, Toyo. all make good LT tires with better milage than you will ever see out of a BFG Overpriced stuff.
It's all about who you know when it comes to buying some things[Coffee]
Pro Tip: Look at the mileage warranty on the tire. Buy the tire at costco. Take your truck in and when the tires aren't living up to their mileage guarantee they just replace it. You don't need to ask. They just say "Your tires are beyond the specs that are guaranteed and we're replacing "x" tire" No mess No fuss. I use them for my bimmer that doesn't get more then 6,000 miles per set but the warranty says 30.
hghclsswhitetrsh
09-07-2012, 20:50
Hankook dynapros
I have a set of new BFG AT/trail (something like that) waiting in the garage. A little less aggressive than the standard AT's. Bought mine on craigslist for 350 dollars mounted on some ugly gray steel rims. Guy wanted pretty rims and bigger tires on his new truck. .I was getting quoted prices of over 1000.00 for 4 new tires. Bought these and have some cash left in my pocket.
I will say that my truck, Dodge 2500 has had only two sets of tires in 122,000 miles. First were factory Michelin and the ones on it now are Michelin. I think if your looking for high mileage tires these can't be beat on a heavy truck.
just get a 10 lug conversion and mount so real tires on the damn thing [Beer]
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/638_johns_rear_wheel.JPG
just get a 10 lug conversion and mount so real tires on the damn thing [Beer]
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/638_johns_rear_wheel.JPG
Yep I'm soooo freaking JEALOUS! Those look sweet[Beer]
I'm running Falken High Country A/T 245/75R16's on my 2004 F-350 Crew Cab 6.0L PSD. They've done well so far.
I currently have Falken HC on my F250 crew PSD truck - they've worn down very quickly and I don't spin my tires or haul heavy loads. Very disappointed with their mileage. Maybe got 10-12K road miles on them.
I'm either going to Costco or with Michelins the next time unless someone shows me a better tire for wear.
Yep I'm soooo freaking JEALOUS! Those look sweet[Beer]
Not mine... but i am with you all the way damn those are some good looking 19" alcoa's
we only buy wholesale you wouldn't believe the markup on tires.
So yup it's who ya know, and we know the tire dudes.
encorehunter
09-07-2012, 22:04
It probably came with the regular LTX AT's Not the AT2's.
Here is the AT2:http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x191/jmg8550/tire1.jpg
Here is the regular AT that probably came with the truck:http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x191/jmg8550/tire2.jpg
We put them on company trucks that were 2 wheel drive. The employees really liked them. They quit getting stuck all the time.
I stand corrected.
I am still a little concerned about the BFGs, because of my bosses truck. If the gravel here tears them up that fast on a 1/2 ton, I can't imagine what it will do with more weight. It will probably tear up any tires, though. Thanks for the web sites to expand my search for cheaper prices.
As to the 10 lug conversion.....I better wait until I get a new one ton before I do that.
I have the bfg rugged trail t/a's on my dodge cummins. I have a tuner and full delete pkg. done so it has tons of extra power and I don't go easy on the skinny pedal at all, they have 11,000 miles on them and they still look great.
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire-selector/category/truck-tires/rugged-trail-t-a/tire-details
newracer
09-07-2012, 23:19
Hankook dynapros
This is what I am running on my 2500 Diesel, they have been great so far.
BFG now offers A/T KO in load range E. I avoided them this time them mostly for mileage reasons. Rugged Trail are the least aggressive. I would find out what specific model of BFG your friend got. That much time spent on gravel roads deserves to be riding on mud terrains as they shed rocks better and will ultimately last longer. AT's do generally get torn up by hard gravel road use. It's just the way it is.
I just put BFG Rugged Terrains (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Rugged+Terrain+T%2FA&partnum=875R6RTTAOWL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes) on my '04.5 Dodge/Cummins a few months back and love them so far.
I tear through BFG A/T (load range D) in 25-30K towing heavy - 30' 5th and jetski trailer, and never did much like the squirm in them over the factory Michelin LTX. The LTX are super great highway towing tires, tough as nails, bit suck worse than a $5 crack whore in the snow and rain.
The Rugged Terrain is a tad milder tread pattern than the A/T so time will tell on traction this winter, but I have high hopes. They Are load range E, have a nice stiff sidewall, look great, and have a 50k mileage warranty!
http://www.tirerack.com/images/trans.gif
http://www.ar-15.co/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12759&stc=1&d=1347081999
Troublco
09-08-2012, 00:01
I have BFG AT KO's, load range E, on my '06 Tundra since I use it to haul and pull trailers; and I have just over 46k on them. I can probably get another 5k or so out of them. Wear-wise, they've been great but they killed my mileage so I probably won't be getting more.
blackford76
09-08-2012, 00:32
Goodyear Dura tracks, been running them on my F-350 duallie for 2 years, there gonna make it at least one more, over 25k so far. You just have to play around with the air pressure so they don't feel like they are flat. I'm running 75 psi front and 60 psi rear, my truck is around 9000 lbs empty, heaviest was 36k. They are magical in the snow, and only a slight hum on dry pavement.
Colorado Osprey
09-08-2012, 05:15
just get a 10 lug conversion and mount so real tires on the damn thing [Beer]
You can get 19.5" wheels without getting a 10 lug conversion. They are made in standard 8 lug so you only need to change wheels and you spare will still fit.
It is great advise to get a real set of tires though.
Get a 19.5" tire/wheels and expect 100,000 miles on your 1 ton
If you are not getting 100,000 on a 19.5" wheel/tire on a 1 ton truck your front end and alignment is screwed up.
Ready for the best part??? The tire price is the same as the 10,000 mile tires!!!!
Hankook dynapros
Got almost 50k out of the last set of Hankook Dynapro ATM load range E's on my Dmax. They work pretty good in mud and snow, probably better if I would air them down. Quiet on the highway.
blacklabel
09-08-2012, 08:55
Got almost 50k out of the last set of Hankook Dynapro ATM load range E's on my Dmax. They work pretty good in mud and snow, probably better if I would air them down. Quiet on the highway.
I love them on my Frontier but I don't think I'd be a fan on a full size diesel truck.
Byte Stryke
09-08-2012, 09:53
Hankook dynapros
This^
I will say that if you haul allot of heavier loads you might want to consider going to a standard high load highway tire for longevity instead of looks.
Sometimes we have to sacrifice looking cool for being practical.
Holger Danske
09-08-2012, 11:11
Hankook dynapros
+1 I run them in 35s on my 7.3L F250 and they are awesome.
30 to 50k on a set of all terrain tires isn't gonna happen. Have you looked at the Michelin LTX AT2 tires? I know they aren't the most aggressive, but they are a very good tire.
One word: DuraTrac
We were just discussing these tires over on Tacoma World (these are usually the center of all tire discussion debates) and some clown in Canada was claiming his buddy had a set with over 100,000km (about 60k miles to us 'Murikans) and still supposedly 50% tread left. Now, I can't speak to how accurate that particular claim is but it's well known that they are long lasting and can handle just about anything you can throw at them. When my dealer-supplied tires are due for a replacement I'm going w/DuraTracs.
jerrymrc
09-08-2012, 14:57
One word: DuraTrac
We were just discussing these tires over on Tacoma World (these are usually the center of all tire discussion debates) and some clown in Canada was claiming his buddy had a set with over 100,000km (about 60k miles to us 'Murikans) and still supposedly 50% tread left. Now, I can't speak to how accurate that particular claim is but it's well known that they are long lasting and can handle just about anything you can throw at them. When my dealer-supplied tires are due for a replacement I'm going w/DuraTracs.
I think the big difference is weight. My 98 weighs 7100 lbs with the 12V putting 975 over the front end. In addition I have a 250 lbs of "Critter Getter" on the front. Even rotating the tires I can watch how the fronts just take the brunt of the wear on mine.
I bought one set of new tires back in 01 "Firestone AT" and got 13,000 out of them. It does not get a lot of use these days so I just need to buy a set of used.
I dont know what you guys do to your tires, but I dont pussyfoot my truck around it weighs 7800# and these bfg at's have 11,000 miles on them and they are still good as new.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/rruusseell1/65911009-7251-4402-969A-1E9E4BBF2DA3-10377-00000E8867498269.jpg
One word: DuraTrac
We were just discussing these tires over on Tacoma World (these are usually the center of all tire discussion debates) and some clown in Canada was claiming his buddy had a set with over 100,000km (about 60k miles to us 'Murikans) and still supposedly 50% tread left. Now, I can't speak to how accurate that particular claim is but it's well known that they are long lasting and can handle just about anything you can throw at them. When my dealer-supplied tires are due for a replacement I'm going w/DuraTracs.
Not a Diesel[ROFL1]
rockhound
09-08-2012, 20:08
I have been running Tread Wrights on my 05, 3500 for a few years now, they give me about 20k miles, but they are half the cost of most brand name tires
However we have Tacoma Tactical Racks for you Yota guys. A fellow AR member will be highlighting it Soon.
I have been running Tread Wrights on my 05, 3500 for a few years now, they give me about 20k miles, but they are half the cost of most brand name tires
Good tires, scared to run them on low pressure but yes lots of miles and cheap cost.
However we have Tacoma Tactical Racks for you Yota guys. A fellow AR member will be highlighting it Soon.
I've already got one.
legaleagle
09-08-2012, 20:22
On my 350 the BFG are trash. They suck in the mud nad snow. I have dirt roads every day to travel. Some clay mud an some sand mud. Either way the BFG's clog up and are all over the place. The mileage I get is about 20K out of a set. I have the terra grappler on another vehicle and have been impressed mileage - 55K so dar with about 1/3 left. I have used Sport King (Fisk) AT on the 350 and got about 55k out of a set, but I can only find in D load range (60 psi max tire for load). My father in law had a set of Bridgestone revo on his 3500 dodge and got 75k out of them. His is mostly a daily highway driver, almost no towing. I have a frend with a 3500 Silvarado with the Dura Trac - look cool, but they are noisy and he is at 23K with over half the tread. He tows alot od structural steel on a a 30 foot flatbed. Have had the michelin at2 on work trucks for the oil company, the employees have trouble get less than 55K out of them towing alot. I didn't think they would work that well in the mud, but they respond better than the BfG's.
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
09-08-2012, 21:17
I've been running tread right re treads for 20k now and they are great I paid just under $600 for 6 shipped they are 10ply and I tow heavy all the time on my 93 dodge d350 and they have 50% tread left
[Beer]
I've been running tread right re treads for 20k now and they are great I paid just under $600 for 6 shipped they are 10ply and I tow heavy all the time on my 93 dodge d350 and they have 50% tread left
I've already got one.
Not like ours, too bad.
Not like ours, too bad.
How do you know? I've already posted pictures of mine. Where's yours?
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
09-09-2012, 02:33
Also as others have said BFG stands for bald fucking garbage. I had a set of rugged trails and they only lasted 15 k at $1400 for 6
How do you know? I've already posted pictures of mine. Where's yours?
When it gets outa the powder coat oven and on his truck, then we post pitchers.
blackford76
09-09-2012, 11:20
Also as others have said BFG stands for bald fucking garbage. I had a set of rugged trails and they only lasted 15 k at $1400 for 6
Rugged Trails are the worst tire BFG makes. I've run All Terrains on several trucks, and they are tough to beat.
When it gets outa the powder coat oven and on his truck, then we post pitchers.
I'll hold my breath.
Back on topic...
Some may lol at comparing a Tacoma to a Diesel but most guys I know who own Tacomas are harder on their trucks (and tires) than most guys I know with diesels. I don't thin it's as laughable a comparison as some might infer. Just saying...
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
09-09-2012, 15:47
Rugged Trails are the worst tire BFG makes. I've run All Terrains on several trucks, and they are tough to beat.
I had a set of A/T on a 85 chevy short box and they were also garbage the tread completely separated from the front right tire trust me from experience Bf Goodrich is probly the worst kind of tire you can buy. Im far more impressed with my tread wrights.
In defense of BFG A/T, I and several friends have run them for 20 years and never had any issues other than premature wear. 4-wheelin, towing, etc. and never an issue. Zero, zip, nada. I don't think I've ever even had a single flat on one.
I keep my shit aligned, tires rotated and balanced, shocks and suspension components in working order.
I did have a set of z speed rated BFG passenger car tires and they sucked balls and would never balance well.
brianakell
09-09-2012, 22:06
Running hankook dynapro now. ~20k on em. wearing, but doing fine. Got 40k out of the bfg at, 40k out of the peerless that was on when I bought it. Truck hasnt run a tank thru it in 3 years without a trailer, chipped 24v dually.
Want longer wear, go bfg commercial ta.
If you are eating tires in 15k, something is wrong. Id bet over inflation, eating the centers, or under inflation, and just cooking them off. FWIW, run mine all 65-70 till this set of tires, running the rears at 40 (remember, dually). Seems to make the rears wear a a little flatter.
Goodburbon
09-09-2012, 22:24
Bfg AT every time. unless its a trail rig or a car. good life, great traction.
I had a set of A/T on a 85 chevy short box and they were also garbage the tread completely separated from the front right tire trust me from experience Bf Goodrich is probly the worst kind of tire you can buy. Im far more impressed with my tread wrights.
Well I can't cause my expeience with them is they last over 50k on my cummins that tows almost daily and puttin down 450hp+ at the wheels.
Well I can't cause my expeience with them is they last over 50k on my cummins that tows almost daily and puttin down 450hp+ at the wheels.
same here, I have around 400hp at the rear and I get great mileage out of bfg's, just like the earlier pics show I have 11,000 miles on them and they still have over 3/4 life left in them. this thread reminds me of what my grandpa used to tell me, believe none of what you hear and half of what you see, and he was not even alive long enough to enjoy the glory of the internet, he would of really loved it around here lately. as far as retreads I have driven a t/t since 1994 don't even get me started, they have caused more damage per dollar saved than you can imagine.
I have Goodyear Duratraks on my Duramax
streetglideok
09-10-2012, 07:14
The keys to good tire life are proper tire rotation techniques, proper tire pressure, and proper alignment. If you have worn parts in the front end, you wont have a proper alignment. If you do not rotate the tires often, every other oil change on non aggressive tires, and up to every oil change on heavy shoulder lug tires, with a modified cross rotation pattern, you'll chop those tires up and make them useless. If you go strictly off the max tire pressure on the tire, they wont last either. If you do everything right, you'll get better wear, however offroad tires do not last as long as on road tires.
encorehunter
09-10-2012, 08:19
My truck is in excellent condition. I put the Hercules tires on right after he rebuilt the front end and aligned it. I am running 75hp injectors with Bullydog performance air intake and a delete kit. It puts out around 450bwhp, and around 775 ft lbs of torque the last time it was dynoed. I am beginning to think I will have to stick with the two sets of tires. I'm thinking a set of the Duratraks and a set of the retreads.
During hunting season I normally put a couple thousand miles on dirt roads. At anywhere from 15-40 miles a day, they add up quick. I don't have the luxury of staying where I hunt, as I have to work basically every day.
I just got new tires. Cooper ATP so far I like them. Went up to 285-75-16 from 265s
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I have Michelin M/S tires on my 3/4 ton. They have about 80K miles on them. Should go another 20-30K easy. They are starting to get a little noisy because I never rotated them. I had the Hancook Dyna pros before this set. They were pretty much trash after about 25K miles.
Seems that everyone has a story or knows a guy who either loved every brand of tire or had a horror story about that particular brand. As stated just stick with consistent rotations, pressure checks, and alignments and they'll last fine.
tmleadr03
03-25-2014, 20:43
I would honestly go to tirerack.com and check out the tires in that size with a load range E on them. Then check the manufactures warranty on the tires. The longer the warranty the better the tire should hold up.
You can just plug in your vehicle and see the ratings on the tires for your vehicle. Great buying help.
On/Off Road All-Terrain
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORAT
ford_muscle1
03-25-2014, 21:54
I have Goodyear Duratracs on my F350 Powerstroke and have liked them from the start.
theGinsue
03-25-2014, 22:22
I just put on a set of Dunlop Fierce Attitude M/S (apparently made by Goodyear) tires on my F250 a few weeks ago when I was in KY. Much better traction on snowy/icy roads than the full mud tires I had on since I bought the truck. I confidently drove at highways speeds through 2 ice storms in the first 24 hours I had them on.
The tire store owner had the same tires on his Jeep and claimed he had 27k miles on them - and they looked brand new. They were a lot cheaper than most other options I had too.
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