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ronaldrwl
09-11-2012, 18:11
I've read a lot about what food, ammo and general supplies to take but what about gas for the car? How much gas are you planning to have on hand and take with you in a 'bug out' scenario? It seems gas would be the hardest to stock up on and transport.

Great-Kazoo
09-11-2012, 18:14
You should be able to reach your destination on 1 tank of fuel with enough left for side trips.

hatidua
09-11-2012, 18:16
When I still had a home in Florida, I kept 20 gallons (4x five gallon jugs) on hand and ended up needing those on three separate events (Frances, Jeanne, Ivan). 20 gallons was enough to get me far enough out of the affected area to find a station to refill - all local gas stations were dry 48 hours before impact.

soldier-of-the-apocalypse
09-11-2012, 18:51
I have 150 gallons of pure veggie oil and 200 gallons of waste oil that needs to be filtered but since diesel is so expensive right now my 110 gallon transfer tank is empty but the oil gives me 6300 miles of range so that's pretty good plus I never go under 1/2 tank in my truck so that is another 200- 400 miles

redneck122
09-11-2012, 18:52
Luckily i don't hardly ever have to drive it, so I keep my jeep full (around 18 gallons) and have 4 five gal jugs full to toss in the back. Rotate the gas every 3 months, and use Stabil.

jmg8550
09-11-2012, 19:23
If you are using Stabil, couldn't you rotate your fuel supply yearly? I thought Stabil was good for 1 year?

Wulf202
09-11-2012, 19:24
I've used double dose stabilized gas two years later, stored in a shed.

Currently hunting a diesel so I can use WMO

jmg8550
09-11-2012, 19:27
What is WMO?

DFBrews
09-11-2012, 19:29
Waste Motor Oil... plays hell on the systems after extended use from what i have seen and there is no way to run it in a newer engine it will destroy the injectors

jmg8550
09-11-2012, 19:32
That's what I thought it stood for. I've just never heard of running a diesel on motor oil intentionally. I've only seen them run on it when they were running away. Consuming it's own oil.

DFBrews
09-11-2012, 19:34
That's what I thought it stood for. I've just never heard of running a diesel on motor oil intentionally. I've only seen them run on it when they were running away. Consuming it's own oil.

Scary stuff right there... We had 15 liter cummins sucking oil from a hole in the newly installed head. the ecm said it hit 3200 before we got it shut down. redline is 2100. holy god damn

Wulf202
09-11-2012, 19:37
If you pick up the right truck with the right motor and the right filters it'll run in most diesels without ill effects other than fuel gelling at low temps.

Duramax and earlier chevys
7.3l and earlier fords
5.9 and earlier dodges


Been researching this for several years.

jmg8550
09-11-2012, 19:37
The only diesel I ever witnessed running away was an Isuzu 4 cylinder that is in the NPR cab over trucks. It hit 5000+ (estimated) RPM before getting it shut down. Had to block off the intake manifold with a clipboard. Tried sucking it into the engine, left an imprint on the clipboard.

DFBrews
09-11-2012, 19:46
If you pick up the right truck with the right motor and the right filters it'll run in most diesels without ill effects other than fuel gelling at low temps.

Duramax and earlier chevys
7.3l and earlier fords
5.9 and earlier dodges


Been researching this for several years.

I have heard of it just never witnessed. the main thing i would be worried about is that waste oil has all the crap floating around in it. it can not be good for the fuel pumps or nozzles. just my initial thoughts. do not know nearly as much about the little guys. I have seen what bio does to decently tough N14 injectors. which had the option for a oil recycle system that pumped it from the pan to the tanks.

DFBrews
09-11-2012, 19:47
The only diesel I ever witnessed running away was an Isuzu 4 cylinder that is in the NPR cab over trucks. It hit 5000+ (estimated) RPM before getting it shut down. Had to block off the intake manifold with a clipboard. Tried sucking it into the engine, left an imprint on the clipboard.

we have the O shit board... 3/4" plywood it has a couple suction marks on it.[Coffee]

soldier-of-the-apocalypse
09-11-2012, 19:52
Waste motor oil has to be highly filtered before you can run it from what I hear. I've never had access to a large amount to want to do any real research on it I know a guy that runs his duece and 1/2 on it though

jmg8550
09-11-2012, 19:53
We heated our shop with it. Oil temp and mixture are critical. Not to mention, the heater itself is kinda high maintenance.

gnihcraes
09-11-2012, 20:52
I usually keep three 5 gallon cans on hand. Stabil before filling them, they last a long time. Which reminds me, I need to fill them up, winter is setting in.

I use them in my riding mower through the summer, and re-plenish so they never really go bad.

Also, pick up the large bottle of Stabil, it will last you a long time.

With my truck, I can fill one tank @ 16 gallons, and get a ways out of town, but figure it would be a worthless try. (12 mpg downhill with a wind)

I plan to bug in, sell my gas for $200 gallon to those trying to leave. :)

ChunkyMonkey
09-11-2012, 21:05
40gallon of gas and 30 gallon of diesel.

jerrymrc
09-11-2012, 21:23
40gallon of gas and 30 gallon of diesel.

And 30 gal of kerosene and 200 gal of propane. [Flower]

ChunkyMonkey
09-11-2012, 21:31
I have 150 lbs of propane..but its purely for the heater. I suspect you are using it for vehicle fuel? [Driver]

rbeau30
09-12-2012, 03:31
I have some gas cans (not sure of what Fire regulations limit as far as storage on your property), so I will refrain on commenting on how many. But I number them and rotate them out every time I fill one of my three vehicles.

Wulf202
09-12-2012, 09:05
you can filter wmo using water filters on a drip system down to 1 micron which is good enough for the older diesels.

duramax and the 24v need it cleaner so you have to step up to centerfuges they can be expensive but cutting fuel costs by %50-90 may be worth while.