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Fmedges
09-11-2012, 19:48
Dear Members of the University of Colorado Community,

There has been much discussion recently about Colorado’s concealed carry law as it relates to our campuses, and I want to take this opportunity to address the issue.

To provide some historical context, the Board of Regents originally passed a weapons control policy in the 1970s, and updated it as necessary, which prohibited weapons on campuses. In 2003, Colorado’s General Assembly passed the Concealed Carry Act, allowing those 21 and older to obtain a concealed carry permit issued by a law enforcement agency.

CU’s view on the issue was that the Colorado Constitution gives our Board of Regents the constitutional and statutory authority to govern the campuses, including enacting a weapons policy. We contended that whether concealed carry was a good idea or a bad idea was an issue best decided by the board in consultation with the university community. The Attorney General issued a statement at the time that the university’s position was lawful. A group called Students for Concealed Carry brought suit in 2010 and argued that the Concealed Carry Act preempted CU’s weapons control policy. The university prevailed in the trial court. After appeals, the Colorado Supreme Court (the highest court that could hear the argument) determined that “the General Assembly divested the Board of Regents of its authority” to prohibit concealed carry on campus, which extended the Concealed Carry law to our campuses.

You may have seen recently that on our Boulder and Colorado Springs campuses, the Regents directed the chancellors to evaluate concealed carry in residence halls and at ticketed events such as football games. The chancellors amended the agreements governing admission to these facilities and events in a manner that promotes campus safety while still creating a student housing option for concealed carry permit holders. This balanced approach complies with state law and thoughtfully address complicated issues. You can read about it here. Because student housing on the downtown Denver campus is privately run and there is no student housing on the Anschutz Medical Campus, the contractual amendments have occurred only on the Boulder and Colorado Springs campuses.

Under the Concealed Carry Act and the Colorado Supreme Court’s ruling, concealed carry permit holders have the ability to possess a concealed firearm on public grounds and in publicly accessible buildings, including classrooms and workplaces. I understand this is a big change for the university, altering how we have operated for 136 years. We understand that many students, faculty, and staff believe that firearms should not be allowed on campus. Others believe that concealed firearms are necessary for self-protection. Today, the law allows concealed carry permit holders to carry a concealed handgun on public grounds and in publicly accessible buildings. The university will comply with the law, but many questions naturally arise.

I have asked our general counsel to further detail the implications of the law as it relates to the myriad activities and events on our campuses. The analysis will aim to clear up as many gray areas as possible, but it will not address every contingency. I expect each campus will have ongoing discussions on the issue and will complement counsel’s analysis, which I expect to be available soon.

There has been talk in the media and elsewhere about the potential for the legislature to explicitly consider the law’s application to higher education institutions during the 2013 legislative session. While legislative action is a possibility, there are no legislative proposals currently before the Board of Regents, nor has the board decided whether to promote any particular legislation. The board customarily does not direct us to seek legislation unless a significant majority of regents support it. If legislators draft proposals, the Board of Regents will consider them, and ultimately may support changes to the Concealed Carry Act. Potential legislation would not be introduced until January at the earliest.

I understand this is an emotional issue in our society and on our campuses. Our top priority is the safety of our students, faculty, staff and visitors. In the coming weeks and months, we will continue discussions about how we meet that imperative in light of the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision that the Concealed Carry Act limits the weapons policy at our university.

For feedback, contact officeofthepresident@cu.edu

Sincerely,

Bruce D. Benson
President


He says nothing that we already didn't know, but I know a lot of you followed this story so I just keeping you in the loop.

DOC
09-11-2012, 20:23
He is such a dbag. I wonder if he'll have separate water fountains for the gun owners too?

Fmedges
09-11-2012, 20:33
To prohibit carrying at their sporting events would they have to install perminent metal detectors? Am I reading this right?



Places off-limits when carrying:
1. Any place prohibited by federal law (e.g. federal offices or courthouse)
2. Any property of public school grades kindergarten through 12, unless the firearm remains inside a container in a locked vehicle
3. Any public building that prohibits ALL weapons which posts guards and permanent metal detectors at all entrances and requires all entrants to surrender handguns to security personnel before entry

Great-Kazoo
09-11-2012, 20:38
I understand this is an emotional issue

At least he recognizes this aspect. Emotions indeed. If he and his faculty were LOGICAL instead of Emotional there would be no ISSUES regarding CCW on campus, OR anywhere else for that matter.

HoneyBadger
09-11-2012, 20:57
I understand this is an emotional issue

At least he recognizes this aspect. Emotions indeed. If he and his faculty were LOGICAL instead of Emotional there would be no ISSUES regarding CCW on campus, OR anywhere else for that matter.

You're asking an awful lot of someone employed under the public education system... [Bang]

O2HeN2
09-11-2012, 21:07
To prohibit carrying at their sporting events would they have to install perminent metal detectors? Am I reading this right?
Yes, you're reading that right. I'm sure they won't read it right and will just ban them without any metal detectors, requiring yet another court battle. What part of "No you can't ban guns" don't they understand?

O2

jackthewall81
09-11-2012, 22:16
Benson and DiStephano can suck it. They hate our football program and are anti-gun. I proudly ccw every day on campus.

Punkface
09-11-2012, 23:41
I'm on campus twice a week and have carried every time. All CU Boulder staff and employees are told to call campus police and or 911 if they suspect anyone of carrying at all. Training programs for employees on how to spot people carrying are being planned but haven't been implemented yet.

Great-Kazoo
09-12-2012, 07:18
I'm on campus twice a week and have carried every time. All CU Boulder staff and employees are told to call campus police and or 911 if they suspect anyone of carrying at all. Training programs for employees on how to spot people carrying are being planned but haven't been implemented yet.

Now imagine this policy being implemented based on color of skin. The protest and media coverage condemning CU would be deafening.
Maybe it's time to have CCW holders get gun ownership classified as a Civil Right!!

Give a whole new meaning to a Gay Shotgun Wedding:)

TFOGGER
09-12-2012, 08:41
Apparently he's bad at math as well, stating first that the weapons policy was first formulated in the 70s, then going on to say that weapons have been banned on campus for 136 years. Liberal math?

MED
09-12-2012, 09:06
CU as well as most universities and K-12 like defenseless victims. I drop my child every day at a soft target...we share this country with some really stupid people.

Ronin13
09-12-2012, 09:55
I'm on campus twice a week and have carried every time. All CU Boulder staff and employees are told to call campus police and or 911 if they suspect anyone of carrying at all. Training programs for employees on how to spot people carrying are being planned but haven't been implemented yet.

[Bang] Hence why I refuse to ever enroll in CU. Fuck them.


CU as well as most universities and K-12 like defenseless victims. I drop my child every day at a soft target...we share this country with some really stupid people.

But they're gun free zones! Don't the BGs know, guns are not allowed? [Shake]

jackthewall81
09-12-2012, 11:44
[Bang] Hence why I refuse to ever enroll in CU. Fuck them.

Right..... You couldn't get in that's why. [Coffee]

Danimal
09-12-2012, 11:56
I got the same letter. I do like to see all the back peddling and crying coming from the administration. They were so upset when the supreme court upheld the right to concealed carry. There were people crying everywhere, teachers vowing not to teach, etc etc. There is only so much that they could do to look more like douche bags, and this was it.

sellersm
09-12-2012, 12:05
I think he made his point clear:
Our top priority is the safety of our students, faculty, staff and visitors.

'Safety' above the Constitution! Gotta love it... These decisions do nothing to improve safety, but they do everything in the appearance of 'safety' and erode our rights.

I agree with the comment stated above: if this were a 'color of skin' issue, it'd be very different.

Ronin13
09-12-2012, 12:28
I think he made his point clear:

'Safety' above the Constitution! Gotta love it... These decisions do nothing to improve safety, but they do everything in the appearance of 'safety' and erode our rights.

I agree with the comment stated above: if this were a 'color of skin' issue, it'd be very different.

It's been said so many times on here I'll just reference it instead of quote it- What Ben Franklin said. [Beer]

DOC
09-12-2012, 16:30
I wonder when a murderer starts shooting up the place he will say, "I didn't know where to go I just followed the signs saying Gun Free Zone Ahead. And knew I'd be safe. And stayed away from the dorm that said CCW in this dorm."