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BlasterBob
09-19-2012, 11:42
IF/when someone buys an imported semi auto rifle (of the ban era) that still has a butthole stock on it and he changes that stock to a pistol grip type, how does he determine if the required 922 parts that are needed to make the switch legal, are actually mfgd in the U.S.A. Are they always marked accordingly? This question may have been asked a gazillion times already but I don't recall ever seeing this particular question or a serious answer for it.
I know that I am probably opening the flood gates for a bunch of wise ass answers but I'd really like to have at least ONE serious answer - if that's even possible here - yeah, I know [Luck]
BPTactical
09-19-2012, 11:46
Theoretically US components must bear markings denoting US manufacture.
Often a company name is sufficient, little of a grey area.
FWIW, not one individual has ever been prosecuted for 922r violation successfully. They have been nailed for other violations but not a stand alone case on 922r.
Homemade parts count as US manufacture as well.
Thumbhole stock, not butthole
Sharpienads
09-19-2012, 12:46
Thumbhole stock, not butthole
Lol.
Thumbhole stock, not butthole
I was debating if that was a typo or he just really really hates thumbhole stocks
I was debating if that was a typo or he just really really hates thumbhole stocks
I'm still on the fence.
IF/when someone buys an imported semi auto rifle (of the ban era) that still has a butthole stock on it and he changes that stock to a pistol grip type, how does he determine if the required 922 parts that are needed to make the switch legal, are actually mfgd in the U.S.A. Are they always marked accordingly? This question may have been asked a gazillion times already but I don't recall ever seeing this particular question or a serious answer for it.
I know that I am probably opening the flood gates for a bunch of wise ass answers but I'd really like to have at least ONE serious answer - if that's even possible here - yeah, I know [Luck]
To figure out how many/what parts to replace: http://gunwiki.net/Gunwiki/LegalFederal922rParts
US parts are generally marked with a company mark, like a 'C' in the case of Century or with 'US', like Arsenal does.
While no one has ever been prosecuted for just 922r issues that I know of, there's no reason to tempt fate. US parts are cheap compared to the cost of an extended stay at club fed. Don't give them a freebie to get you with.
Rust_shackleford
09-19-2012, 13:53
Is 922R a law or a made up ATF reg that never made it through a real legislative process? Funny how rules are made up by bureaucracies.
Is 922R a law or a made up ATF reg that never made it through a real legislative process? Funny how rules are made up by bureaucracies.
As far as I know it's an import law - Title 18 USC ยง 922(r). Although how the law is interpreted and applied is up to the whims of the ATF I imagine.
I have seen a few Butthole stocks.
I have seen a few Butthole stocks.
It's where cleaning kits go in AKs and other com-bloc rifles, isn't it?
Circuits
09-19-2012, 14:50
Is 922R a law or a made up ATF reg that never made it through a real legislative process? Funny how rules are made up by bureaucracies.
It's a law. A stupid one, but a law.
BlasterBob
09-19-2012, 17:56
Thumbhole stock, not butthole
I had originally typed "asshole" stock but thought that I really don't want any ban hammers swinging in my direction. I do frequent some other firearms sites and they refer these stocks as "butthole" stocks more often than "thumbhole" stocks. So...........[Tooth]
jerrymrc
09-19-2012, 19:08
Thumbhole stock, not butthole
Sorry but Bob grew up on the files and they are called "butthole". [Flower]
I was debating if that was a typo or he just really really hates thumbhole stocks
Not a typo.
I'm still on the fence. Pushed off. He (as do I) really hate the butthole stocks CAI put on there Fal's.
So now ya all know where it came from. [Beer]
BlasterBob
09-19-2012, 21:01
Thanks Jerry. I was ALMOST starting to wonder if I had imagined that term. Guess I'm not going totally wacky (yet).[Tooth]
theGinsue
09-19-2012, 21:11
Guess I'm not going totally wacky (yet).[Tooth]
Now, let's not make too hasty of a decision on this issue.
[ROFL1]
anaphylaxis
09-19-2012, 22:17
how does he determine if the required 922 parts that are needed to make the switch legal, are actually mfgd in the U.S.A. Are they always marked accordingly?
http://www.harborfreight.com/36-piece-1-8-eighth-inch-steel-letter-number-stamping-set-800.html
[LOL]
Great-Kazoo
09-19-2012, 22:41
Thanks Jerry. I was ALMOST starting to wonder if I had imagined that term. Guess I'm not going totally wacky (yet).[Tooth]
So how many of us were / are from the Old falfiles besides the 3 of us?
Ah the days of FSE us mag parts, charging handles and DSA gas pistons.
BPTactical
09-20-2012, 05:31
So how many of us were / are from the Old falfiles besides the 3 of us?
Ah the days of FSE us mag parts, charging handles and DSA gas pistons.
One here Jim, use a different name there but that is where I first touched base with Jerry, Bob, SloCat, C2Vette and a few others that I can't recall at this time.
Thank God we don't have a DABTL here.........
Great-Kazoo
09-20-2012, 07:31
One here Jim, use a different name there but that is where I first touched base with Jerry, Bob, SloCat, C2Vette and a few others that I can't recall at this time.
Thank God we don't have a DABTL here.........
Ah yes dumb ass bill
We do have WECSOG although i doubt anyone with less than 10yrs on the boards knows what that means. I have been Jim on every board except GT. There it's jimc, some SOB took my name. [Rant1][Rant1]
Ah the files....
I wonder if they cleaned my corner in the basement??[Coffee]
BlasterBob
09-20-2012, 07:50
Ah the files....
I wonder if they cleaned my corner in the basement??[Coffee]
BASEMENT you say. That place has not been the same since they gave it a complete overhaul and now no one has the gonads/balls to even make a post in the infamous DB section...........[BooHoo]
BASEMENT you say. That place has not been the same since they gave it a complete overhaul and now no one has the gonads/balls to even make a post in the infamous DB section...........[BooHoo]
Yup one of the reasons I dont go there anymore-too many whiners...
It use to be a fun place..
BPTactical
09-20-2012, 08:52
Ah yes dumb ass bill
We do have WECSOG although i doubt anyone with less than 10yrs on the boards knows what that means. I have been Jim on every board except GT. There it's jimc, some SOB took my name. [Rant1][Rant1]
You said WESCOG!!![LOL]
Should I start posting like gglliillee??
Great-Kazoo
09-20-2012, 09:20
You said WESCOG!!![LOL]
Should I start posting like gglliillee??
If that happens who is Jen and referees everything?
If that happens who is Jen and referees everything?
They need to have a Limey accent ;)
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