View Full Version : If you get mad when someone asks to see your I.D....
mevshooter
09-20-2012, 01:07
... you should punch yourself in the junk.
Seriously, you come up to me with a check for cash, out of your account, for $1000 and you get MAD at me? "oh, you must be new, no one else asks for my I.D. here. I don't understand why I need to do that."
Well, sweetheart, 1) if that's true, then nobody around here is doing their job. And 2) When some scam artist in China steals the tens of thousands of dollars in your checking account, don't come crying to me.
I must be one of the only people who learned how to walk and take my wallet out at the same time, because in the 10 minutes it took you to waddle in here, you could have removed, replaced, repeat, with your dang driver's license 75 times before you got to me.
And then complaining about how long it takes? Its not the 4 second process of pulling your I.D. out that takes so long, its your asinine and moronic argument that wastes time.
And then criticizes my counting technique as being "too loud and public" and would allow a better opportunity for all of the unsavory characters in the DTC to follow her to her car and mug her.
Sweet, merciful crap.
And then the asian woman who cashed a $2000 check out of a business account, and said "no one else asks this, I never have to show my I.D., this never happens around here, you must be new. This is ridiculous." Every. Single. Time. The same old bull crap mantra.
And the BEST part of my day?
THE A**HOLE WHO CAME IN AN HOUR LATER AND TRIED TO FRAUD US FOR $3700!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And HOW did we catch him??!?!
HE DIDN'T HAVE PROPER I.D. AND WE CHECKED THE SIGNATURE ON THE ACCOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
Eff.
Seriously, ya'll. Just show your damn I.D.
I'm done.
JM Ver. 2.0
09-20-2012, 01:11
... you should punch yourself in the junk.
Seriously, you come up to me with a check for cash, out of your account, for $1000 and you get MAD at me? "oh, you must be new, no one else asks for my I.D. here. I don't understand why I need to do that."
Well, sweetheart, 1) if that's true, then nobody around here is doing their job. And 2) When some scam artist in China steals the tens of thousands of dollars in your checking account, don't come crying to me.
I must be one of the only people who learned how to walk and take my wallet out at the same time, because in the 10 minutes it took you to waddle in here, you could have removed, replaced, repeat, with your dang driver's license 75 times before you got to me.
And then complaining about how long it takes? Its not the 4 second process of pulling your I.D. out that takes so long, its your asinine and moronic argument that wastes time.
And then criticizes my counting technique as being "too loud and public" and would allow a better opportunity for all of the unsavory characters in the DTC to follow her to her car and mug her.
Sweet, merciful crap.
And then the asian woman who cashed a $2000 check out of a business account, and said "no one else asks this, I never have to show my I.D., this never happens around here, you must be new. This is ridiculous." Every. Single. Time. The same old bull crap mantra.
And the BEST part of my day?
THE A**HOLE WHO CAME IN AN HOUR LATER AND TRIED TO FRAUD US FOR $3700!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And HOW did we catch him??!?!
HE DIDN'T HAVE PROPER I.D. AND WE CHECKED THE SIGNATURE ON THE ACCOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
Eff.
Seriously, ya'll. Just show your damn I.D.
I'm done.
Good show, mate! Good show indeed! Solid 9 out of 10 on that one from me. [Beer]
Sounds like an attempt at gun buyer suppression to me. ;)
Seriously, my thinking on it is the buyer should just go ahead and offer ID up, right off the bat, before the seller even asks. I just bought an AR last night, from a member here, and that's what I did. Politely save the seller the awkwardness of having to request it. It's the law, the burden is on the seller to make some attempt to ascertain the buyer is not ineligible to purchase. Pitch in and help him/her out.
JM Ver. 2.0
09-20-2012, 01:47
Seriously, my thinking on it is the buyer should just go ahead and offer ID up, right off the bat, before the seller even asks. I just bought an AR last night, from a member here, and that's what I did. Politely save the seller the awkwardness of having to request it. It's the law, the burden is on the seller to make some attempt to ascertain the buyer is not ineligible to purchase. Pitch in and help him/her out.
Psst.... I think the OP is talking about his place of employment... [Beer][LOL]
GilpinGuy
09-20-2012, 01:53
Obviously, you are trying to suppress minorities from visiting your place of business by asking for ID.
JM Ver. 2.0
09-20-2012, 01:54
Obviously, you are trying to suppress minorities from visiting your place of business by asking for ID.
RACIST!!!! [Rant1][LOL]
Now now,they dont ask for it when they go and vote so why should you??
Good job.Although some people just wont appreciate the fact your trying to help them keep whats theirs.
Next time say,gee thats funny you were just here and withdrew your entire account....
jerrymrc
09-20-2012, 04:17
Psst.... I think the OP is talking about his place of employment... [Beer][LOL]
My thought as well. [Flower]
Pancho Villa
09-20-2012, 04:54
It's interesting to me that having an ID card is so ingrained in us these days. I'd love to see a study into how they avoided fraud in various contexts before the government assigned you a number at birth and required you to get and keep a photo ID on you to do just about anything.
Man when I put it like that it sounds kinda creepy.
wow , im mad because someone is doing there job a protecting my cash ?? really ? as my grandmother used to say "some peoples children (add face palm and head shake )"
THank you for doing your job.
It's interesting to me that having an ID card is so ingrained in us these days. I'd love to see a study into how they avoided fraud in various contexts before the government assigned you a number at birth and required you to get and keep a photo ID on you to do just about anything.
I'd like to know as well. I'd guess that deals were mush more likely to depend on personal knowledge of your partner, someone you trust to vouch for them, or collateral.
I'm not sure how many places would take a check if they didn't know you.
I could be completely wrong and it was just part of the cost of doing business much like it still is. That is why I'd like to see a study.
I have no problem with showing my ID in the bank. I've been the victim of identity theft and had lots of money removed from my bank account! Got it back but still a pain.
Not in the OP but I fully support ID to vote!
dwalker460
09-20-2012, 07:43
Meh, I dont get asked for my ID in the places I frequent because I frequent them and have become known to them. Other places I get asked for ID.
I use a business card for 90% of my purchases and have actually not been able to use it because the name on the card doesnt match mine, yanno, because its a business card. In those rare cases I simply use it as a debit card and go on about my business.
I have no issues with giving my ID, but some clerks can be a bit snotty when asking for it and I more or less ignore them.
I love this post and feel this way all the time. When I asked for an ID people seem to freak it about it. They try.to tell me they don't have it, well I just saw it in your wallet. So I would love to help you after you show me an ID. People just like to cause problems
I feel that a bank and liquor store it should be expected of you to have your ID
Teufelhund
09-20-2012, 08:04
I use my debit card for everything, hardly ever carry cash unless I know I'm going to need it. No one ever asks for my ID anymore, except the girl at the bank, and the guy at the beer store when I had him my debit card. I always thank him for checking.
It's interesting to me that having an ID card is so ingrained in us these days. I'd love to see a study into how they avoided fraud in various contexts before the government assigned you a number at birth and required you to get and keep a photo ID on you to do just about anything.
Man when I put it like that it sounds kinda creepy.
I suspect there were a lot of cases of fraud, mostly without recourse.
Batteriesnare
09-20-2012, 08:04
I don't see what the big issue is, I mean you have to show your ID for everything else. Alcohol, over the counter drugs, national election voting.....
Fuck! Never mind, carry on.
I'm going with bank teller for the OP's profession.
No one is required to have an ID to walk the public streets. You are issued a license to drive a vehicle on the public streets, and for most people over the age of 16, it has become a defacto ID.
Before ID (driver's licenses) became prolific, most people tended to use cash and they remained in a relatively small geographic area. People developed business relationships where each person was known and their creditworthiness was assessed and granted accordingly. When you travelled (much more rare than today) you used cash.
Bank tellers were always taught to "know your customers." There were two ways to do that. Know them personally, as in your regulars, who are normally business accounts or the crotchety old people always dropping off rolled coins, or check IDs and signature cards.
Want to do business; make yourself known. Either have someone I know vouch for you, build trust through smaller, i.e. less risky transactions. Showing ID is fine, but it is not a cure all for resolving trust.
Everyone who did business with, thought they knew Bernie Madhoff. No one is asking for his ID anymore. He has his very own special number. [Flower]
For voting, I don't want proof of identity; I want proof of citizenship. In my world, passports would be issued at birth to US citizens. They would be upgraded every five years. You want to do business with the government? Food stamps, social security, jury duty, voting, "show us your papers please."
Be safe.
I always say 'No' when they ask to see an ID.. it usually makes people stutter and drool..
Of course I say it as I reach for my wallet, but most people stare at their feet when they talk.. people in a bank are no exception..
Well if someone was trying to take money out of my account I would love for you to card them..
Kudos to you sir for DOING your job.
Racist!
Zundfolge
09-20-2012, 08:20
I'd love to see a study into how they avoided fraud in various contexts before the government assigned you a number at birth and required you to get and keep a photo ID on you to do just about anything.
Back when people delt mostly in cash it didn't really matter who you were in the vast majority of transactions.
As we become more and more a cashless society, the unintended consequence is that you must constantly be able to prove who you are since your money is held by proxies and accessed remotely.
Mev, my brother is in the same boat- he works at a bank and was yelled at once (they even asked to see the manager) because he didn't recognize them and asked for ID. Really? His manager said "Nope, he's doing his job..." Now through him I know everyone at the bank (and the old man is on the board) so I can't recall ever showing ID, but like cstone said, our family has established that relationship with the bank, and that's how you traditionally conducted business. Let them get upset for making them show ID, good, I hardly ever get carded at the bar anymore, I know, apples and oranges, but what happens when they stop checking when you purchase things on a credit card (big ticket items some places make it a requirement- ala Best Buy)?
Good on you for doing your job! [Beer]
beast556
09-20-2012, 08:38
Im always glad when they ask me for my ID. Getting your identity stloen sucks big time. All the backs of my cards say ask for ID the best is when they flip it over stare at it shake there head and run it any way.
spqrzilla
09-20-2012, 09:23
I always thank clerks who ask for ID from me.
Im always glad when they ask me for my ID. Getting your identity stloen sucks big time. All the backs of my cards say ask for ID the best is when they flip it over stare at it shake there head and run it any way.
Yep, I have "see ID" on the backs of all of my cards and in about 90% of my transactions I am never asked for ID. Some places I frequent do not ask any longer but did previously so I continue to do business with them. I always thank people for asking for my ID. I have had fraudulent activity on my bank account before but my bank caught it instantly. It helped that I was grocery shopping on the same day they decided to use my card in another state. I was never out any money but it was still a headache to have to lose all of my cards for a couple of weeks and have accounts temporarily frozen. I am much more careful as to where I will use my card as well with all of the card skimming going on nowadays.
Psst.... I think the OP is talking about his place of employment... [Beer][LOL]
[Bang] No more posting after midnight for me! :D
I always thank clerks who ask for ID from me.
Same here. people who throw a fit are assholes.
Well, once we all get our microchip in the back of our hand this won't be a problem anymore......
clublights
09-20-2012, 12:55
Try working the door at a bar/nightclub ...
People get upset when you ask for it .. I quite often hear " Really I have to have my ID?"
I always thank the person who reads the back of my credit card and actually asks to see my ID.
now, I have something that will blow your fucking mind....USPS here in brighton actually told me they WILL NOT accept credit cards if they are not signed and WILL NOT check ID. I was given no clear explanation as to why, other than it is THEIR POLICY....
Dalendenver
09-20-2012, 15:10
I always tell a clerk that asks, "Thank you for asking."
I once had a clerk that wouldn't run my card because it wasn't signed. I had to sign it in front of him and then he ran it. Never did ask for ID.
Great-Kazoo
09-20-2012, 15:51
I do like asking the tellers when they ask me how i would like my bills
"May i have them in Federal Reserve Notes?" To date every teller has called a manager over for assistance. Even worse is when the mgr thinks for a minute or 2 before catching on.
I do like asking the tellers when they ask me how i would like my bills
"May i have them in Federal Reserve Notes?" To date every teller has called a manager over for assistance. Even worse is when the mgr thinks for a minute or 2 before catching on.
[ROFL1] That's awesome! [Beer]
I do like asking the tellers when they ask me how i would like my bills
"May i have them in Federal Reserve Notes?" To date every teller has called a manager over for assistance. Even worse is when the mgr thinks for a minute or 2 before catching on.
Should ask for Silver Certificates or Treasury Notes (I like Blue and Red) [ROFL1]
JM Ver. 2.0
09-20-2012, 17:56
I always thank the person who reads the back of my credit card and actually asks to see my ID.
now, I have something that will blow your fucking mind....USPS here in brighton actually told me they WILL NOT accept credit cards if they are not signed and WILL NOT check ID. I was given no clear explanation as to why, other than it is THEIR POLICY....
I always tell a clerk that asks, "Thank you for asking."
I once had a clerk that wouldn't run my card because it wasn't signed. I had to sign it in front of him and then he ran it. Never did ask for ID.
On the back of most cards it says, "not valid unless signed". Yeh post office and some other places are pretty anal about that.
bigun1962
09-20-2012, 18:48
I trade for cash. If you need an id you do not need cash. Any other financial document would not be accepted by me. I however do not need to make a living at it.
porfiriozg
09-20-2012, 20:20
Thanks for doing your job? my account got charged 1200 for photos in new york becuase some one didn't ask for ID, it would have work if not for one thing (only had $5 at the time)
mevshooter
09-21-2012, 07:43
Thanks for the support, guys.
For the most part, that is [Tooth].
I just don't understand what the problem is. "You must be new." OBVIOUSLY I'm new. I'm 6'4, weigh 300 pounds, and look like Haggrid from the Harry Potter movies. You would INSTANTLY KNOW if I was new, if this is your home bank.
So, if you KNOW I'm new, then you KNOW I HAVE TO SEE YOUR I.D.
Holy crap. Don't like it, don't use my line. Go to the teller you know. This isn't that freaking difficult.
On the back of most cards it says, "not valid unless signed". Yeh post office and some other places are pretty anal about that.
Yes sir, all credit/debit cards that I am aware of say "not valid unless signed" on the back. But once again, that is something most people do not check.
And my other favorite thing so far, people who do not have a debit/atm card with PIN verification, getting upset when I ask to see their I.D. for balances, account information, small withdrawals, etc.
Seriously, you walk up and CLAIM to be someone, I HAVE to verify it.
I understand the issue that was brought up earlier about "how did people protect themselves back in the day?" before I.D.'s, socials, etc... but we were also talking about a time before FAKE I.D.'s could be printed, accounts could be hacked, and fraudulent electronic information transfer was available.
No, I do not think the government is an answer to these problems (i.e. wikileaks) but crap, this is the system we have, it is by no means perfect or 100% secure, but its all we have for now.
Mev I feel ya man. I was a teller for a while and I still teller sometimes when help is needed. People are so STUPID. Now I admit, I'll get a little annoyed when people ask for my ID when I want to see a R rated movie. It's like "bro...I am 6' 200lbs with a full beard and a bangin hot girlfriend who is older than you. Do I seriously look like I might possibly be 16?"
But keeping money safe and verifying identity is just simply a must. I wonder if you could have them sign a form that would make an alert pop up saying "Do not check ID. Customer is retarded and wants to lose money."
Anyways, I feel your pain. I found a good way to diffuse that situation is to say "I apologize as I am knew here and I don't know all of you guys yet. I am learning! And I will try to remember your self-righteous ass next time you come in." Minus the self-righteous ass part. They usually feel rather stupid.
I always thank the clerk for asking for my ID when I use a credit card. The clerks are doing their part in fraud protection and I'm grateful.
Only Hot female bank tellers ask for my ID, and they always seem to show up at the house later that night. It sucks.
Only Hot female bank tellers ask for my ID, and they always seem to show up at the house later that night. It sucks.
Tough life, man, tough life. Need to work on the hot liquor store clerks.
"See Photo ID" here as well. Now, it's on the merchant if they don't and get taken, but I always thank those that ask regardless of amount, and scold those that don't for any transaction over $50.
A Best Buy clerk once told me their manager said it was "Illegal" for them to ask for ID. [Eek3] [NoClue]
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