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Just picked up my first mosin nagant
It's a m91/30 Tula I think (has arrow in a five point star)
Came with pouch, tools, sling, 300 rounds of yellow tip surplus ammo
So questions
what's the yellow tip mean
Why are Tula rifles better then izhvesk rifles
The bolt is kinda hard to close what gives??
Got this for about $220 is that a good price.
Yellow tips on 7.62x54R mean heavy ball, 182 grain.
http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/440-rd-can-762x54r-russian-yellow-tip-heavy-ball-182-grain-fmj-ammo
Not much different in Tula and Izzy, a lot of personal preference. Ask 4 people and get 5 different opinions.
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Cant help ya with the bolt without seeing it.
Price, well that one is up to you. Its worth whatever you are willing to pay for it...but I dont think you did to bad
Yup what Spliefy said.
Mosins love the heavy ball.Try and stay away from the cooper washed stuff though,they have a tendency to jam.I think there light ball.
Izzy, Tula Its all Russian to me :)
I think the only differance and not much is the finish and wood.Some had dark stain and others light.Also they came in laminate.
As far as the bolt goes,its probably full of cosmoline,and the whole weapon for that matter.Strip her down and degrease it,make sure you get in with a pick in some spots cause that stuff hardens like concrete.I douse any ones I get in kerosene overnight.TAKE IT OUT OF THE STOCK FIRST ;)(yup btdt! )
If it still feels sticky polish the bolt and rails the bolt rides on,some of the machining may be rough.
Alot of these were made in a rush and then put away never to be used hence the roughness.
Metalhed
09-20-2012, 20:12
clean the bolt, take it apart and clean every little piece and then clean it again
I took a large brass brush, for a 12 gauge and ran it into the chamber area to clean out any stuck on, old moldy stuff wedged in there. I mounted it to my drill and worked it in there. Little chunks of carbon and greasy crud flew off.
I used an orange cleaner to clean the stock and it worked great.
clean the bolt, take it apart and clean every little piece and then clean it again
I took a large brass brush, for a 12 gauge and ran it into the chamber area to clean out any stuck on, old moldy stuff wedged in there. I mounted it to my drill and worked it in there. Little chunks of carbon and greasy crud flew off.
I used an orange cleaner to clean the stock and it worked great.
That works great! But make sure it's a brass brush!!!
I scored the crap out of a bore using a stainless one on the Makita...
Mosins are notorious for sticky bolts, they require a bodacious all-over cleaning like everyone's mentioned, especially the bolt and chamber. Don't be afraid to put the bolt and chamber into an old junk pot full of boiling water if you have to. Get it all hot enough and the water will evaporate quickly without rusting, plus you can blow it all off with compressed air and wipe it down, then oil it. Rusting after boiling isn't much of an issue as long as you at least try to dry it off. But boiling will get that cosmogoo that you can't reach.
Usually pretty good rifles and lots of fun, but for $220? I hate to say it, but that's about $100 too high, although the ammo is a nice plus. But no bayonet?
What's the year date stamped on top of the receiver? Does it have a round receiver or a hex-shaped? Hex's from the mid-30's or older are generally more desirable. The war-era guns tend to have rougher machining, as they were cranking them out as fast as they could.
You can get them at any Big 5 Sporting Goods on sale every month for $119, and get that price daily if you demand it. And you can buy them online for under $100 from AIM and Sarco.
Oh, www.7.62x54R.net (http://www.7.62x54R.net) is a great place for info about them.
Round reciver
It's stamped 1940
So just boil it??
USAFGopherMike
11-20-2012, 00:04
Youtube and the above website. Both have tons of info. I scrubed mine with hot water and simple green, followed by gun solvent, then standard oiling. After the first time shooting, do it again, til it stops sweating cosmoline. Rinse and repeat.
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