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Teufelhund
09-22-2012, 18:49
Gary Johnson sues (http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/gary-johnson-files-anti-trust-lawsuit-to-get-into) the Commission on Presidential Debates


Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson filed an anti-trust lawsuit in federal court Friday to try to force his way into next month's presidential debates.
Johnson, who first sought the GOP primary nomination before launching a third-party bid, is suing the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates and both the Democratic and Republican parties, calling the CPD a "conspiracy."
The CPD was founded jointly by the two parties and the nominee, and the lawsuit alleges that they meet every four years to set the rules for the debate to "hoodwink" the American people.
Johnson is asking the courts to force the CPD to allow for all candidates who are on the ballot in enough states to reach 270 electoral votes to have a spot on the debate state.
According to a release, Johnson’s running mate and retired California Superior Court Judge Jim Gray will argue the motion on the campaign’s behalf.

I'm not sure this will get any traction, but it's a good start. I'm of the opinion that the American people deserve to hear all the options in order to make an informed decision in a democratic process.

Great-Kazoo
09-22-2012, 20:33
Gary Johnson sues (http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/gary-johnson-files-anti-trust-lawsuit-to-get-into) the Commission on Presidential Debates



I'm not sure this will get any traction, but it's a good start. I'm of the opinion that the American people deserve to hear all the options in order to make an informed decision in a democratic process.

This should have been resolved and solid decision when perot ran. All viable voices should be allowed.
It is also time to condense the election period down to say 1-2 months tops. This would eliminate all (well most of it) of the shit we are inundated with starting way to early. Like the Christmas trees and decoration crap hits the shelves between labor day and HELL-O WEEN.

BushMasterBoy
09-22-2012, 21:47
Heres the deal...ya listenin'? Perot is a billionaire. This country is all about money.




The big Almighty$

Teufelhund
09-23-2012, 00:10
Heres the deal...ya listenin'? Perot is a billionaire. This country is all about money.




The big Almighty$

I'm not sure I follow. Perot's billions couldn't get him into the debates. So at least this one issue must be about something more than money.

Goodburbon
09-23-2012, 00:18
I'm not sure I follow. Perot's billions couldn't get him into the debates. So at least this one issue must be about something more than money.

Perot's VP nominee got into the VP debate and pretty much HOSED it IIRC.

No offense to Hoser.

Great-Kazoo
09-23-2012, 03:52
I'm not sure I follow. Perot's billions couldn't get him into the debates. So at least this one issue must be about something more than money.


It's about suppressing alternative opinions & ideas. As always follow the money.
Not that he is getting my vote. On the other hand.........
When was the last time an election was NOT about voting for the Lesser of 2 Evils ?

Whistler
09-23-2012, 05:27
It's about suppressing alternative opinions & ideas. As always follow the money.
Not that he is getting my vote. On the other hand.........
When was the last time an election was NOT about voting for the Lesser of 2 Evils ?

Evils? Thought it was weevils... damn that Russel Crowe. [Coffee]

xring
09-23-2012, 09:01
This should have been resolved and solid decision when perot ran. All viable voices should be allowed.
It is also time to condense the election period down to say 1-2 months tops. This would eliminate all (well most of it) of the shit we are inundated with starting way to early. Like the Christmas trees and decoration crap hits the shelves between labor day and HELL-O WEEN.

Commision on presidental debates contract controls the debates.

A contract is drawn between the two gangs.

Every minute detail of the "debate" is specified in the Commision on presidental debates contract. , The questions that will be asked are specified in the Commision on presidental debates contract. The response time allowed (so their responses fit the time perfectly) is specified in the Commision on presidental debates contract. The "journalists" asking the questions are selected in the Commision on presidental debates contract. When the Commision on presidental debates was established the league of women voters withdrew from sponsorship of the debates, even though they started the debates against the will of the gangs, because they "did not want to participate in the hoodwinking of the American people"

The time Perot was included (one debate year only) was because both gangs saw him as increasing their chance of winning and he was included in their contract.

The debates are the election. Ventura had 10% in the polls going into the govenors race. He was allowed in the debates. A couple of weeks later he won.

Control the debates and you control the election.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHzst1ZdIs

Teufelhund
09-23-2012, 10:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj0HYUjm6nY

"This video has been removed by the user."

Corruption of the system so blatant they don't even try to hide it, and no one denies it. Reminds me of the scene in Gangs of New York where they're bussing people to the polls and running them through multiple times. Happening right in front of our faces and we can't do a damn thing about it.

xring
09-23-2012, 11:14
"This video has been removed by the user."

Corruption of the system so blatant they don't even try to hide it, and no one denies it. Reminds me of the scene in Gangs of New York where they're bussing people to the polls and running them through multiple times. Happening right in front of our faces and we can't do a damn thing about it.

Vid was there this morning
same vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHzst1ZdIs

Teufelhund
09-23-2012, 16:29
Vid was there this morning
same vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHzst1ZdIs

Nice! I've emailed the CPD before, but never called. I'll do that Monday (as if it matters).

I really hope this suit gains some ground. I don't care who you vote for, but everyone who will be on the ballot should have the opportunity to tell you what he/she proposes. The illusion of choice needs to become a real choice.

Teufelhund
10-01-2012, 09:12
Three of the sponsors of the upcoming debates have yanked their support as a result of the supposedly non-partisan commission allowing only the candidates from the two major parties to participate. The most recent to pull their sponsorship was Phillips Electronics.

Head of Corporate Communications, Philips North America issued the following statement via form letter to numerous recipients:

"The Commission on Presidential Debates is a nonprofit, 501(c) (3) corporation dedicated to providing a platform to the U.S. public – in the form of presidential and vice-presidential debates – which serves to inform voters on a variety of issues. Philips, a company with roots in the U.S spanning more than eight decades, supports the goals and ideals of having a more engaged and informed electorate. Philips also has a long and proud heritage of being non-partisan in the many countries it serves around the world. While the Commission on Presidential Debates is a non-partisan organization, their work may appear to support bi-partisan politics. We respect all points of view and, as a result, want to ensure that Philips doesn't provide even the slightest appearance of supporting partisan politics. As such, no company funds have been or will be used to support the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Kind regards,
Mark

Mark A. Stephenson
Head of Corporate Communications, Philips North America

Article here (http://www.policymic.com/articles/15578/gary-johnson-activists-lead-the-charge-against-the-cpd-and-that-is-awesome). There is a list of the remaining sponsors at the bottom of the page. I have contacted each of them to let them know I won't be watching the debates if they won't include all candidates who appear on the ballot, nor patronizing their companies if they continue sponsorship.