Karl

[Circuits]

I regret to announce that Karl's being held in Teller County jail, according to the deputy I talked to, bail is set at $10,000. I didn't ask, but presume it's got to do with his former house burning down friday.

If anyone closer or with more time can go by and see him, or otherwise get more info on his situation, please do so.

[RYAN50BMG]

Wtf???

[car-15]

looks to be sad, but true circuits, ETA: we all need to remember though, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
http://krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=6865444

[robsterclaw]

I was just browsing kktv's website and the headline said Woodland Park man arrested for arson. Pulled up the story and there was Karl's name. Anyone else's first thought being that was where he did his reloading? I'm thinking that might have been the cause. I know he's careful with his firearms, and imagine he is with his gun powder, but accident's happen. I hope he can bail himself out. (No pun intended) And hope it was just an accident.

[Gman]

[Shock]

[pickenup]

That sucks.........either way.

[Wallary]

I can't believe it! There's just no way! We'll have to wait and see what happens next. Just have to hope and pray he gets cleared of all charges.

[2ndChildhood]

Ever since the first reports of his house fire, I've been hoping for the best.

Best of luck to you Karl, I hope you get off.

-2C

[Gman]

Another bit with a mugshot. Karl has looked better. He's in our prayers.

Neighbors Say Man Set His Home on Fire
http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=6868643

[mr_dove]

best of luck to Karl. Hope we hear about his status soon. At least it didn't turn into a case of:

"man with huge arsenal burns down his home. Assualt Weapons recovered"

[rondog]

I don't know the man, but I believe in the "innocent until proven guilty" thing, and I wish him the best. Regardless of whatever "circumstances" there may be, accidents DO happen.

[<MADDOG>]

Ever since the first reports of his house fire, I've been hoping for the best.

Best of luck to you Karl, I hope you get off.

-2C

No, I hope your inncocent.

[robsterclaw]

No, I hope your inncocent.
I hope so too. I do believe he is, but that's just knowing the man and not all the facts. I know something like foreclosure could make someone snap with anger for a time, but he's always seemed level headed to me.

Sure as hell will give him the benefit, unlike his one neighbor they showed on the news. That lady seemed mean.

[PsychoI3oy]

One way or another, this'll make for another great story for Karl to tell at a shoot sometime.

Hang in there Karl.

[recon1976]

If anyone is interested You can visit Karl on mon, wed, sat, and sun, between the hours of 1pm to 3pm and 7 pm to 9pm. With a valid ID that contains your birthdate.

[robsterclaw]

If anyone is interested You can visit Karl on mon, wed, sat, and sun, between the hours of 1pm to 3pm and 7 pm to 9pm. With a valid ID that contains your birthdate.

Can we bring cheesy brats? Seriously if I could make it, I'd like to bring some kind of snacks. Anything allowed?

[HunterCO]

For those of you that want to visit it will be a no contact visit. You will talk to him via a telephone and there will be bullet proof glass between you.

The only thing you can give Karl is money in his commissary this would allow him to buy candy bars soda ect.

[redneckerson]

There is a dress code for Karl's visitors. If you have shorts on that don't go to your knees, the Teller County Jail will not let you in.

Also, Karl can only have 30 min of visits during each 3 hour period, and can only talk to one person at a time.

For instance, today, Sat 8/4, I am meeting Curcuits at the Jail at 1p, and we are each going to talk to Karl for 15 min.

Visit are allowed 1-3p and 7-9p Sat, Sun, Mon, and Wed.

If you are planning to visit Karl, call me before 1p today, 8/4, on my cell 719-339-6183, and I'll let him know you will be coming when I speak to him at 1p.

Your visits would really help cheer him up.

Hopefully by next Wednesday, 8/8, Karl will be a free man.

Matt Martin

[WillysWagon]

It's great for you 2 to go visit him.
Please give updates/details on his 'bonding out' process, either in this post or in PM please. What's the next step for Karl as far as retaining an Atty?

Thanks for the info Matt,
Kyle

[Delphi]

aye no kiddin, that woulda been bad....

Whats the worst he can get for setting a house on fire? Hopefully not too bad, and hopefully he gets a competent lawyer that can explain to the jurers how the horrific reloading accident happend ;)

[mr_dove]

My wife and I have both worked in the mortgage industry for a number of years. You'd be surprised how much devastation people do to their homes when they're getting forclosed on and they don't get in a bit of trouble.

People break windows, urinate on the carpet, tear out the sheetrock, remove all the cabinets, tear out all the carpet. One person actually cut through all the water pipes and flooded the entire house. It was a total loss and had to be demolished. None of that crap is illegal but I guess arson crosses the line.

[bailagent100]

I have not spoken to Karl since I interviewed him about joining our bail agency a couple years ago, but I do hope he gets through this alright.

[WillysWagon]

Any updates??

[Asha'man]

Damn, I didn't see this until now. What's the current situation, anyone know?

[redneckerson]

I'm going to visit Karl today.

If you have any messages for him, just PM me before noon.

[Gman]

Just let him know that we're praying for him.

[codyzak]

Is it a legal thing that we can't get updates?

[Circuits]

Karl should have been bailed out this morning, unless something went wrong with that process. Hopefully we'll hear from him soon.

[HunterCO]

Karl will not be out untill monday as far as I know. His bond should get reduced on Monday.

[robsterclaw]

Karl will not be out untill monday as far as I know. His bond should get reduced on Monday.

I so hope he does get out Monday then.

[recon1976]

Karl will not be out untill monday as far as I know. His bond should get reduced on Monday.

What was the Bail reduced to???

[redneckerson]

Karl should be out of jail by noon Monday, 8/20.

We won't know if the Bond Reduction is approved, and for what amount, untill after Karl's court hearing Monday morning.

Karl's cell phone may be down for a day or two untill he can get over to the phone store and pay off his bill, but after that, you should be able to contact him on his cell.

I know he would really appreciate hearing from everybody.

Matt

[WillysWagon]

That is great news Matt.
I'll give him a call, but will probably drop by and see him too.

[LippCJ7]

I'm just wondering if anyone has found out if Karl's arsenal has been secured? Hopefully by someone other then the Police/Sheriffs dept? Chances are he will not be able to have them until after his situation is settled. Mine and Coles thoughts and prayers are with Karl.

[WillysWagon]

Any updates from his hearing today?
It be awesome if he was bonded out already!!!!!!!

[HunterCO]

Karl's hearing did not go good they refused to reduce his bond. On a good note Karl should either be out or on his way out as I type this. I talked to the bondsman about 3 hours ago and he was on his way to bond Karl out.

[KarlPMann]

Ummm, please see my post in this forum for more details. While there is only a little good in it, at least I am out and able to defend myself now. Things are going to be WAY tough on me now, without a car or phone, but I will NEVER QUIT and I will NEVER GIVE UP!!! I really do appreciate your support in ALL forms. Thanks guys. Kyle, I am trying to seek legal help before my eviction ....'hearing' on wednesday. Ummm seriously, anyone know how/where/when I can catch a bus from the Southgate area into the downtown/courthouse area? And Kyle, or anyone else, I'd love to have ANY company ANY day or time of the week I am here. PM me for an address/directions. I may be out looking for lawyers in the day, but PM me here, and I will surely make time for my friends whenever I can. Karl.


PS. Thanks again.