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KevDen2005
09-24-2012, 15:38
Okay, on the quick-clot packages there is an expiration date. Do these products really expire or is this a way for a manufacturer to make more money? If they don't expired do they deteriorate in some way?

Sawin
09-24-2012, 15:52
Good question. Now I'm wondering about this too. Hopefully someone can enlighten us.

Wulf202
09-24-2012, 16:01
yes they expire. they stop clotting as well as new the older they get. I'd keep them about a year past the date if the conditions have been good.


buy combat guaze to replace it with.

KevDen2005
09-24-2012, 16:09
yes they expire. they stop clotting as well as new the older they get. I'd keep them about a year past the date if the conditions have been good.


buy combat guaze to replace it with.

What's the difference?

Wulf202
09-24-2012, 16:15
combat guaze is supposed to be the best stuff out there. alot of the other products are just as good as standard guaze. get the z pack stuff mil grade. the regular stuff is rolled and takes alot more room in the kit.

cmiliard has a great class about this stuff

cmailliard
09-24-2012, 20:12
It's like almost anything with an expiration date - it just cannot be guaranteed after the date. If the package is vacuum packed and is still sealed tight I would it is fair game for 6 months to a year after the date.

Remember it's not like today it's good and tomorrow it's bad, it just does not work like that. But just about everything must expire at some point. If you want to hold on to it give 6 months, but start thinking about replacing it, yes with Combat Gauze.

If you are serious about treating yourself or others, $50 every 3 years is not a lot to spend for proven treatment (provided you use it correctly)

Stay Safe!!

cmailliard
09-24-2012, 20:25
What's the difference?

Simply - Combat Gauze works, Quick Clot doesn't

There is research to back this up from the United States Army Institute for Surgical Research.

Here
http://on-the-x.com/hemostatic-agents/

mcantar18c
09-24-2012, 21:25
We carry Combat Gauze in our kits, stuff works.

zteknik
09-24-2012, 21:37
I still have some combat guaze left over in my kit,does that stuff expire?
It's been sitting since 9/11.

Rust_shackleford
09-25-2012, 08:31
never tried combat gauze. Where does one get the best deal on it? I did use Quick clot on a bullet wound to arm. It was a religious experiences. IT BURNS LIKE HELL! It stopped the bleeding for sure.

cmailliard
09-25-2012, 16:57
never tried combat gauze. Where does one get the best deal on it? I did use Quick clot on a bullet wound to arm. It was a religious experiences. IT BURNS LIKE HELL! It stopped the bleeding for sure.

Old green pouch with just the powder or the new(ish) ACS?

Chinook Med and Rescue Essentials both Colorado Companies sell it (not cheap). I usually have some from kits that didn't get built but am tapped out right now.

cmailliard
09-25-2012, 17:04
I still have some combat guaze left over in my kit,does that stuff expire?
It's been sitting since 9/11.

If you mean 2001, then yeah it's expired. Are you sure it's Combat Gauze and not just normal QuickClot? I think CG was developed in like 2006 or 2007.

zteknik
09-25-2012, 17:18
It's definitly '01 so it probably is the normal QuickClot.
I have to restock my kit anyway so that is on the list.Just wasn't sure if it was still usable.

ChunkyMonkey
09-25-2012, 18:22
Just a quick note.. dont buy combat gauze from cheap outlets or even amazon... I tried 3-4 times and each time the expiration date is only a year away.

zteknik
09-25-2012, 19:26
Just a quick note.. dont buy combat gauze from cheap outlets or even amazon... I tried 3-4 times and each time the expiration date is only a year away.
Thanks for pointing that out.[Beer]