View Full Version : Anybody else get suckered into buying a Ruger SR556?
I bought a "LNIB" Ruger SR556 from a form. The rifle appeared to be in great shape, everythin I could examine at the meeting site was clean the total package price seemed reasonable.
A week later I finally found time to get out to the range only to find out this thing jammed worse that a cheap throw away Jimenez .25. This thing was awful, failure to eject and feed about everyother round.
Ruger, much to my surprise didn't hesitate to issue me an RA number, they said they wanted the firearm to function perfectly so it's now back at their shop.
Just wondering if anyone else has had similar issues with this weapon.
the 2 i have played with have been absolute turds jamming on everything
dwalker460
09-28-2012, 14:15
Have not shot one but think its awesome they are standing behind a gun you didnt even buy new.
Mine is definitely a turd. It jammed on several types of factory ammo, all brass, and different mags. Me and Ruger have a dud on on our hands! I just hope they get it fixed and get it back to me before the zombies get here!
Doesn't it have an adjustable piston?
Doesn't it have an adjustable piston?
yea they do i watched this dude i shot with play with it the whole time we were shooting....i dont think i saw either gun make it past 5 rounds on anything other then M855....
They do have a setting on the piston, 1-3 with two being the normal setting for genaral shooting. I tried all 3 settings and only setting 1 which is single action only setting worked like it shood have.
DSB OUTDOORS
09-28-2012, 14:37
Could be that the gas port seals need to be broke in. I have a high end CMMG that has the pistol gas port. Had one hell of a time cycling. But just like they told me after about 65 - 75 rounds runs like a top. [Awesom] Good luck.
I heard piston guns were the fix all for everything...
Sorry to hear it. Although yours isnt the first Ruger AR I have heard being a lemon.
The one my buddy has made the trip back to Ruger.
Wow I had no idea they were that bad. I had seen a few good deals in the past and toyed with the idea of taking one for a ride. Glad I didnt after reading this!
Bailey Guns
09-28-2012, 18:04
Somebody else had an issue with one...carrier tilt, I think. Blackford, was it your gun?
I bought a "LNIB" Ruger SR556 from a form. The rifle appeared to be in great shape, everythin I could examine at the meeting site was clean the total package price seemed reasonable.
A week later I finally found time to get out to the range only to find out this thing jammed worse that a cheap throw away Jimenez .25. This thing was awful, failure to eject and feed about everyother round.
Ruger, much to my surprise didn't hesitate to issue me an RA number, they said they wanted the firearm to function perfectly so it's now back at their shop.
Just wondering if anyone else has had similar issues with this weapon.
Let me help you out, I will give you a nice crisp 100 dollar bill for your ruger :) hahaha
You should go bitch to the Ruger reps that are going to be at Specialty sports this weekend for there big ruger sale. Might get you some free stuff.
I just ordered one from GB, and it will arrive next week.
Man... I should've bought yours and save $$$$ on it. [ROFL3]
sellersm
09-28-2012, 19:44
Search around YouTube and you'll find videos of the problem. Seems that Ruger has a bit of work left to do...
Troublco
09-28-2012, 20:11
I could never figure out why they decided to pin the quad rail foreend on. But having heard several folks having issues with them, I'll content myself with one of their Gunsite scouts...eventually.
Wow, I'm glad I saw this. I was about to buy one of these. Think I'll wait a bit!
Good luck!
Zundfolge
09-28-2012, 21:20
I heard piston guns were the fix all for everything...
That was my thought ... I'll stick with DI AR's thankyouverymuch.
But good for Ruger, standing behind the gun like that. I've never been a huge fan of Ruger's guns in general but good customer service does make their pieces look more attractive.
blackford76
09-29-2012, 00:24
Somebody else had an issue with one...carrier tilt, I think. Blackford, was it your gun?
Yup, after about 5500 flawless rounds, carrier tilt ate the buffer retaining pin, which got caught up in the trigger.
7 days passed from my first e-mail to Ruger, and my baby being returned to me.
Looks like a heavier buffer tube was used to make the repair.
I got several e-mails AND phone calls keeping me updated while they had it.
I could only be happier if it hadn't failed to begin with. After the stellar customer support I got, I'll be a Ruger fan for life.
Mine is fed a diet of Wolf, Brown Bear, Winchester, surplus, really whatever is cheap, only fed with P-mags. Never had an issue.
Blackford76...I agree their customer service is excellent and I'm happy to hear your rifle is working as it should, it gives me hope mine will as well.
Have not shot one but think its awesome they are standing behind a gun you didnt even buy new.
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I heard piston guns were the fix all for everything...
Sorry to hear it. Although yours isnt the first Ruger AR I have heard being a lemon.
Let's not lump ALL pistons into that sarcastic category. I've had a piston LMT that has yet to give me a single problem in the years I've had it. Eats whatever I feed it like a champ. One faulty unit or manufacturer does not a faulty system-type make.
I can't speak for this Ruger SR556 specifically however.
Just picked up SR556 from my FFL.
I can't wait to shoot this thing. It is my first pistol AR.
Will post pictures fairly soon on purchase thread.
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
09-30-2012, 01:27
I have shot one with about 500 rounds. It worked great and it was pimped with a eotech with 4x magnifier, only thing I didn't like was the wieght close to 10 pounds. But my freind says he has no issues except 2 steel "herters" cartridges stuck in the chamber and he says he has about 3000 rounds down the tube so far, maybe he got a good one. I've also shot the same batch of herters out of my bcm with the same problem.
Great-Kazoo
09-30-2012, 05:59
2 words for a fix
Adams Arms :)
Bailey Guns
09-30-2012, 06:28
2 letters for a fix.
DI
[Coffee]
BPTactical
09-30-2012, 07:35
2 letters for a fix.
DI
[Coffee]
Win!
Making something more complex does not make it better.
I have a piston rifle that runs flawlessly.
Avtomat Kalishnakova.
Oh, and it was designed that way.
blackford76
09-30-2012, 07:40
No love today...I think you guys all need to hug.[Coffee]
blackford76
09-30-2012, 07:42
You are all entitled to your opinions, but my SR556 is my go to AR.
rockhound
09-30-2012, 08:07
Win!
Making something more complex does not make it better.
I have a piston rifle that runs flawlessly.
Avtomat Kalishnakova.
Oh, and it was designed that way.
True, true
moved from my AR to the sig 556, the sig was based on the AK, so it runs anything you feed it with AR accuracy
When completely disassembled there are a total of 8 parts on the bench, simple is better
BPTactical
09-30-2012, 08:30
You are all entitled to your opinions, but my SR556 is my go to AR.
Like a schoolteacher in summer..............no class[ROFL1]
I keed.
Bailey Guns
09-30-2012, 10:31
Like a schoolteacher in summer..............no class[ROFL1]
I keed.
I thought that first line was going to end with something like..."no students to have sex with."
DD977GM2
09-30-2012, 11:28
I am saddened to see folks still supporti g Ruger
josh7328
09-30-2012, 13:05
I am saddened to see folks still supporti g Ruger
Why is that? BTW I've owned 3 DI ARs and I have only had one failure of any kind, with thousands of rounds through them all. I had a 6.8 extractor break once. Why fix what isn't broke?
ChunkyMonkey
09-30-2012, 13:28
Why is that? BTW I've owned 3 DI ARs and I have only had one failure of any kind, with thousands of rounds through them all. I had a 6.8 extractor break once. Why fix what isn't broke?
Wait til you start shooting piston.. wont look back to DI.
As far as Ruger.. they are pro Clinton's AWB. Bill Ruger made a deal to promote their 'rancher mini 14' and to ban AR-15.
josh7328
09-30-2012, 13:35
Wait til you start shooting piston.. wont look back to DI.
As far as Ruger.. they are pro Clinton's AWB. Bill Ruger made a deal to promote their 'rancher mini 14' and to ban AR-15.
What is the advantage of piston? All of the informal reliability tests that I've seen show little to no improvement over DI, and in some cases the DI has shown better reliability. Are they more accurate or something? Serious q's, no sarcasm.
I didn't know that Ruger supports an AWB. Weren't they doing a big NRA contribution thing recently?
What is the advantage of piston? All of the informal reliability tests that I've seen show little to no improvement over DI, and in some cases the DI has shown better reliability. Are they more accurate or something? Serious q's, no sarcasm.
I didn't know that Ruger supports an AWB. Weren't they doing a big NRA contribution thing recently?
I have both and the only benefit I have noticed is they are easier to clean.
Why is that? BTW I've owned 3 DI ARs and I have only had one failure of any kind, with thousands of rounds through them all. I had a 6.8 extractor break once. Why fix what isn't broke?
Because that's the basis of innovation. Cassette tapes worked pretty well too at one time. Until something truly better comes along (through trial and error) you won't know how much better things could be. I think piston is a great system and has it's use. I think people on extreme ends of the piston v DI discussion in either way are just silly. They both work well and they both have their advantages and disadvantages. Neither one is perfect and neither one will solve all problems.
ChunkyMonkey
09-30-2012, 13:46
What is the advantage of piston? All of the informal reliability tests that I've seen show little to no improvement over DI, and in some cases the DI has shown better reliability. Are they more accurate or something? Serious q's, no sarcasm.
I didn't know that Ruger supports an AWB. Weren't they doing a big NRA contribution thing recently?
There are reasons why failzero BCG sells and for $$$ - Piston helps prevents those pesky dirty bcg. In most classes, good instructors will insist you on running your AR wet. Piston AR runs fine w/ light lubrication. Most avid shooters don't see any major advantages, while some do. This was also the reason mentioned by the US Marine report on choosing HK416. On the other hand, dirty DI AR runs fine if you keep them wet.
The Marines also stated that piston runs better in wet, after being submerged, and muddy environment. How much better over DI? I dont know.
And yes, as early as 1989, Ruger was lobbying the Congress to ban hi cap mag - basically targeting the popularity of ar-15.
EDIT ref: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-usas-m4-carbine-controversy-03289/ (Yes I know neither you or I probably would ever faced such conditions in which these platforms were tested under. :) )
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
09-30-2012, 14:59
What is the advantage of piston? All of the informal reliability tests that I've seen show little to no improvement over DI, and in some cases the DI has shown better reliability. Are they more accurate or something? Serious q's, no sarcasm.
I didn't know that Ruger supports an AWB. Weren't they doing a big NRA contribution thing recently?
Lower heat you can take the bolt out after 90 round dump, it's cleaner, and if you have a suppressor it's supposed to be better with the gas adjustment.
Because that's the basis of innovation. Cassette tapes worked pretty well too at one time. Until something truly better comes along (through trial and error) you won't know how much better things could be. I think piston is a great system and has it's use. I think people on extreme ends of the piston v DI discussion in either way are just silly. They both work well and they both have their advantages and disadvantages. Neither one is perfect and neither one will solve all problems.
Great way to put it.
The reason I got into Piston is because I am so sick and tired of spending good 30 minutes to clean the DI ar15. Whereas, It takes me about 5 minutes to completely clean FS2000 ; which has gas piston.
I traded my DI AR long ago on this forum. FINALLY got myself an AR again! [Coffee]
Great-Kazoo
09-30-2012, 22:37
I am saddened to see folks still supporti g Ruger
You went down that road once before. Don't you own, or owned, a S&W and or Colt?
blackford76
10-02-2012, 12:52
Took 2 AR's out last Sunday, A DI and the Ruger, one worked and one didn't. The one that worked said Ruger on it.
OP, Ruger WILL return to you a fully functional rifle, rest assured.
Sorry you had a bad one, I once bought a Bushmaster that had the chamber reamed too deep, I had to pay to fix it myself. A new barrel for a new rifle, awesome.
Only thing I just need for my New SR556 is red dot sight.
I can't wait to take the Ruger out to the range.
Update: My SR556 is on it's way back, I found out by receiving and E-mail from UPS. I called Ruger this morning to find out what was wrong and what they did to my rifle and I was told " they don't keep notes". I was told my rifle was bench tested and range tested. I asked the obvious questin, did it pass the tests? Ruger said they dont keep notes but they assume it passed or it wouldn't be shipped back...WTF Ruger?
How can they not keep notes, how can they track reocurring problems with the model or particular rifle? it dosent make sense to me.
24 rounds and the same problem was repeated. This time no warning, round 24 failed to eject, the bolt jammed up on a primer and is locked up tighter than a drum. It's back to UPS and on it's way back to Ruger.
Again they said they want to make it right, and the sent me an overnight air shipping lable. No complaints with Rugers commitment to customer satisfaction, just with my rifle.
BPTactical
10-12-2012, 17:30
The product is only as good as the company behind it.
The company is only as good as the product it turns out.
Kind of a catch 22 now isn't it?
Byte Stryke
10-12-2012, 18:23
Ruger has had some nasty PR in the past, they have some different views on things now...
They have an AWESOME customer service staff
say what you will about Ruger, I won't hesitate to buy one.
Kudos to Ruger for standing behind their product.
After shipping my SR556 back to Ruger for a 2nd time, they replaced the entire rifle with the exception of the lower which was rebuilt with a new parts kit. The rifle works great, I am very happy with it's performance. It took a while to get it right but it was certainly worth the wait.
palepainter
10-27-2012, 09:21
Good for you to have the patience that most of us wouldn't have had. Glad you are satisfied after all that BS.
Cylinder Head
10-27-2012, 09:24
If I'm going to buy a piston gun it's going to be one that's been built from the ground up. The SCAR is an excellent gun that was built properly around a piston.
Singlestack
10-27-2012, 17:56
+1 The SCAR is a fantastic rifle - in both 5.56 as well as .308. Thats what the ACR should have been.
stevelkinevil
10-27-2012, 19:36
Agreed, love my Scar 17, best rifle I've owned bar none.
ChunkyMonkey
10-27-2012, 19:46
If I'm going to buy a piston gun it's going to be one that's been built from the ground up. The SCAR is an excellent gun that was built properly around a piston.
Or get them all!!! Sig, POF, SCAR, ACR, AA [Tooth]
http://imageplay.net/img/tya22289840/BCG_free_image_host.jpg
You don't have them ALL...
Singlestack
10-27-2012, 20:25
Man, thats impressive!
Cylinder Head
10-28-2012, 15:12
You don't have them ALL...
He let his Pokemon obsession bleed into his gun collection.... Impressive!
again....
I buy unwated or potentially broken carrier tilt RUGER SR556 for CHEAP!!!
(PM me for an arrangement. cash in hand)
http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showpost.php?p=691787&postcount=46
Kaiser.Shooter
10-29-2012, 20:48
Only thing I just need for my New SR556 is red dot sight.
I can't wait to take the Ruger out to the range.
Did you have a chance to shoot it by now?
I own one SR556 and it runs like champ.
Used it for a class ca.450rds without a single hickup.
I set the GB on pos. 2 and it eats all ammo I tried to feed it (reloads, federal bulk, wolf, brown/silver bear)
Did you have a chance to shoot it by now?
I own one SR556 and it runs like champ.
Used it for a class ca.450rds without a single hickup.
I set the GB on pos. 2 and it eats all ammo I tried to feed it (reloads, federal bulk, wolf, brown/silver bear)
I have 556e. Weight was less than regular 556.
Shot it when I got the red dot sight to zero in, and no problem with Walmart federal ammo.
Now, I got a buis, so I gotta zero that in.
I guess I had real good luck with at I owned.
From bushmasters to ruger, I had zero problem so far.
ronaldrwl
10-30-2012, 08:54
No complaints with Rugers commitment to customer satisfaction, just with my rifle.
To bad you can't defend your house with "Rugers commitment to customer satisfaction."
You pretty much need a working gun for that. Sorry, to hear about these problems. That sucks!
To bad you can't defend your house with "Rugers commitment to customer satisfaction."
You pretty much need a working gun for that. Sorry, to hear about these problems. That sucks!
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