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J
09-28-2012, 14:07
First I would like to say, that you guys all ROCK! We have had many very generous donations, in quantity and donation amount, and I cannot thank you enough! In case you are just hearing about donations, info can be found HERE (http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showthread.php?t=65193).

Foxtrot (for years) and myself (since the great crash) have been covering operating expenses. Unfortunately we need new equipment; we just don't have spares that are powerful enough or good upgrade alternatives for the current stuff. The improvements will be substantial in both reliability, disaster recovery and speed.

We upgraded the leased server (1/2 of the hosting for the site) a couple of months back to improve these pieces. Of course with that came the increased costs. The donations thus far have already paid the lease bill due and pre-paid through the end of October, so that is awesome!

We want to get out of the leased game. I operate several racks at local data-centers that I am happy to donate space in. The current clients I have there pay the costs, so I am happy to donate 1/30th of that space to the site. Unfortunately donating a $2,500 server hardware setup is a bit harder for me to swing.

Now that we have covered the leased server until Nov. 1st, the primary goal is for this site to own its very own server that can go into one of my data-center racks and have the upkeep fees mostly covered for many years to come. This server will provide 2/3 - 3/4 of the total serving power for the site. We will still have a backup mirror in place to handle a small amount of the traffic regularly and ready to take over if the primary fails.

We want to get something that is a bit future proof, and is upgrade-able after that. Between what I have currently to donate, and what have found shopping the deal, the current Ideal setup in mind (for nerds here) is a server with redundant power supplies, hardware RAID 1 with hot-spare, 8Core processor (with a slot for an additional 8 core processor) and 16GB RAM (expansible to 256GB) and remote IPMI management interface.

To acquire the parts still needed with what I have already acquired on my own or had from other projects, we need just short of $1700. We have $1115.xx right now, with some money in the mail too. When we get close enough, I will donate the remaining funds to make it happen. The goal is to stop paying $150 monthly and have it paid off.

After that is done, we have one more project, which may need additional funding, or may not.

The forum software we use (vBulletin 3.7) is very outdated. We have to patch it constantly because it was designed to run on the PHP software versions from many years ago. We have tried on the next newer version and it completely fails. To add to that, the version we have has a massive memory leak that is one of the largest contributing factors we have had to the minor outages you have seen since the great crash.

We must find something new. We, the staff, are reviewing our options for the best course of action, and will likely come to you all, the members, when we have it narrowed down a bit more. Unfortunately vBulletin's newest version, vB5 Connect, is trying to be a private facebook software rather than a forum. We haven't eliminated it from the list, as we hope there will be options to make it behave more like a traditional forum than a social network. However, we are reviewing and doing trial testing on 4 additional software packages to be prepared, most of these cost money, a couple do not. Luckily, even those that do cost money are significantly less cost than the hardware to run the site, so they will be much easier.

So again, thank you for all of your generosity. We will keep you updated on the efforts as they transpire. We are setting this site up to be a long-term self-sustained community, which is something we can all be proud of.

Sincerely,
--J

RCCrawler
09-28-2012, 14:33
It's much safer and more reliable to stay with a leased solution. I own several LARGE forums and I've tried it both ways.

I'd even venture a guess that it's saved me money as well.

J
09-28-2012, 14:42
Thanks for the insight. I host many (many, many) 9-11 figure a year (and one just barely 12 figure per year, gross) e-commerce merchants or online stores of MAJOR brands. I would guarantee that many of you own something from them (bought online or in a retail store) or have ordered from the website of the non-brand stores. The infrastructure is in place, I just cant swing the cost of the server hardware alone.

As we stand with my existing infrastructure able to be freely donated, the investment will pay itself off in just over 10 months. And since donations like this usually (from many years experience) start out very strong, they become very small after the initial burst, an upfront investment model is most appropriate. Because this site is 100% free, has no advertisements! and doesn't even charge a fee to the Industry Partners, we do not have any sort of steady income stream to cover recurring costs.

Without this existing infrastructure I have, I agree. Best to pay your monthly fee to someone that has the infrastructure. But because I can easily incorporate this hardware into my existing infrastructure... co-lo space, backup systems, bandwidth, power, BBU, fail-over generators, cooling, firewalls, switches, routers, etc is all very robust and covered both short and long term! This is the best path for this community. I promise that.

J
09-28-2012, 15:02
P.S. did I mention that a company behind a leased solution was the major cause of the great crash?

Mazin
09-28-2012, 15:09
J
I just want to thank you for all of your work on this site and thanks to all who have helped!!!! For me this is more than a forum, its a community.

StagLefty
09-28-2012, 15:11
J
I just want to thank you for all of your work on this site and thanks to all who have helped!!!! For me this is more than a forum, its a community.

^ Ditto-it's my senior citizen center [Beer]

zteknik
09-28-2012, 15:22
We could allways go bacK to PuTTY SSH [Coffee]

You guys are doing a great job!!
It's nice that you have the resoursces to piggy back off of,if you had to do it from scratch....Crap that would be a nightmare!!

My hats off to you guys!![Beer]

ronaldrwl
09-28-2012, 15:23
I would feel safer if there was a red button that you could press to create a great crash that wiped out everything. If such an event ever seemed like a good idea. :)

J
09-28-2012, 15:39
I would feel safer if there was a red button that you could press to create a great crash that wiped out everything. If such an event ever seemed like a good idea. :)

I could just ban absolutely everyone again, like happened a couple of months back [Coffee]

Will that work?

In other news "rm -rf /" exists on our linux server, if ever the need existed. If you aren't a geek, I can provide more details on what that does, but it is essentially a 8 character red button as described above.

theGinsue
09-28-2012, 15:44
Just a quick note to tell everyone how much the rest of the staff & I really appreciate all of the generous donations you've provided to the site.

This site isn't the software or hardware behind it but the members who come and share their knowledge, experiences, anger and jokes. Unfortunately, without the hardware and software, we wouldn't have the avenue available to form such an awesome community. Your support will help to ensure things are in place to ensure total strangers with a common bond can get together and share.

Thank you all!

Thomas / Ginsue

GilpinGuy
09-28-2012, 15:45
First I would like to say, that you guys all ROCK!

Umm, no. YOU guys rock. [Beer]

J
09-28-2012, 15:52
Less talky, more smokey. I want my bacon! [Coffee]

I keed, I keed. Im patient

Thanks for the words and support.

zteknik
09-28-2012, 18:57
I had the chance to meet up with The Ginsue today-Man what a prick!
Just asked wheres da money??!! Felt like I was back at good ole central park getting mugged!!!

Nah,He's a cool dude![Beer]
You guys have one heck of a good mod!!

jerrymrc
09-28-2012, 19:16
I had the chance to meet up with The Ginsue today-Man what a prick!
Just asked wheres da money??!! Felt like I was back at good ole central park getting mugged!!!

Nah,He's a cool dude![Beer]
You guys have one heck of a good mod!!

We sent him to Charm-en School. Taught him to say "That's nice, that's really nice" instead of F$@K YOU!. [LOL][Flower]

DSB OUTDOORS
09-28-2012, 19:18
I could just ban absolutely everyone again, like happened a couple of months back [Coffee]

Will that work?

In other news "rm -rf /" exists on our linux server, if ever the need existed. If you aren't a geek, I can provide more details on what that does, but it is essentially a 8 character red button as described above.
Is this what your running right now? I have one in my safe at work I might be able to donate?? Have to check with my biz partners.

PS. Thanks to all the Mods on this one for busting ASS to keep this sight safe and sound and keeping the down time to a minimum. [Beer]

J
09-28-2012, 19:28
Yes, the site runs on Linux. Though that can go on any number of hardware configurations. If so, let me know what you have, and I'll let you know if it fits the bill or not. Thanks for the offer.

sroz
09-28-2012, 19:30
We sent him to Charm-en School. Taught him to say "That's nice, that's really nice" instead of F$@K YOU!. [LOL][Flower]

So he attended charm school with dem southern belles.....now, that's nice.

DSB OUTDOORS
09-28-2012, 19:35
Yes, the site runs on Linux. Though that can go on any number of hardware configurations. If so, let me know what you have, and I'll let you know if it fits the bill or not. Thanks for the offer.
I'll check it out tomorrow and let ya know. My Pa is an old school programmer that built our sales program from scratch. Off a TSX Host system. I bought this Linux server as a backup, but never used it, It's older but NOT used. I'll let you know!! [Beer]

Troublco
09-28-2012, 20:24
We sent him to Charm-en School. Taught him to say "That's nice, that's really nice" instead of F$@K YOU!. [LOL][Flower]

Hey...I never got the "That's nice"...all I got was the F$@K YOU!

(Kidding...Ginsue's good people. Lots of those here; it's why I like it so much.)

Thanks for all the behind-the-scenes work to keep this place up. I'd go bats**t crazy (or whatever DSB is) if I didn't have this place and all the crazies here to keep me sane.

[Beer]

Hoser
09-28-2012, 21:20
Hard to believe that we have generated this much $$$ in such a short time with just a simple request.

All of the staff members are humbled by this.

Thanks for stepping up and taking care of the site guys.

theGinsue
09-28-2012, 22:16
I had the chance to meet up with The Ginsue today-Man what a prick!
Just asked wheres da money??!! Felt like I was back at good ole central park getting mugged!!!

Nah,He's a cool dude![Beer]
You guys have one heck of a good mod!!

It was great meeting you too - finally; eh?! Thank you so much for your generous donation, I've got it updated in the list.

Folks, Bob (zteknik) is a cool guy & great to talk with. I'm afraid I kept him around talking longer than I should have and talked his ear off. He made me realize that good can come out of NY!

jerrymrc
09-28-2012, 22:48
So he attended charm school with dem southern belles.....now, that's nice.

I knew someone would remember the joke. [Coffee]

Dr_Fwd
09-28-2012, 23:06
Thank you guys!
P S. Actually, I was really happy that I can finally help.

P. P. S. THIS IS THE BEST FORUM!

zteknik
09-28-2012, 23:18
It was great meeting you too - finally; eh?! Thank you so much for your generous donation, I've got it updated in the list.

Folks, Bob (zteknik) is a cool guy & great to talk with. I'm afraid I kept him around talking longer than I should have and talked his ear off. He made me realize that good can come out of NY!
I enjoyed talking to you as well my friend.We realy didn't talk all that long,after all I'm used to having to recharge my phone multiple times talking with Rachel Ray[ROFL1]

Anything I can do to help is my pleasure,'yall make this New Yorker feel at home in this new home ;)

babirl
09-28-2012, 23:51
We sent him to Charm-en School. Taught him to say "That's nice, that's really nice" instead of F$@K YOU!. [LOL][Flower]

Heck that Ginsue guy works across the street from me and I can't get him to call or come visit... Too much daylight or public so I figure him for a true nerd-a-lator geek! [Beer]

(Seriously, would love to find the time but we both spin at a pretty furious pace in way different areas...)