High Cap Mag law in CO

[Skukripion]

So I had some loaded 30 round mags while walking into a outdoor range right on Aurora and Denver border zone. A cop/ATF officer guy pointed them out and said i can't have them. I insist to enter the range and said that is incorrect for the area i'm at, but he wrote me a ticket and seized my mags.

This piss me off. I'm pretty sure the ground i was standing is not part of City of Denver. I need to talk to someone about this crap and get my stuff back. I was holding the mags in my hand though, that may be the only possible mistake on my part.

[00tec]

You need to make sure you were not in Denver first...

[Skukripion]

You need to make sure you were not in Denver first...

fairly sure i was not.

[flan7211]

What range was it?

[FireMoth]

That sounds hinky as hell, but its the city AND county of denver, as one entity....

...so, if you were in denver county, your in the city, so far as right of law is concerned. The county lines tend to follow water resources, so its kinda hard to tell. Cherry Creek, to be clear, is in denver.

There is a ban on mags over 20rnd capacity, but the law is poorly written and unclear. I would appear on the ticket and indicate that you were going to a shooting center you did not believe was in denver, and would not knowingly violate the law. However city demarcations are not clearly marked, and a home rule law that contradicts the legality for the rest of the state is difficult to follow where not posted.

Not knowing the particulars, i can only suggest, of course, since this is the first time EVER that I have heard of someone sited under that law in exclusion of any other violation.

Its curious you identified an "cop/ATF guy"... ATF, does not have that jurisdiction, and the home rule ban is a matter internal to denver. So who exactly did this person work for?

[00tec]

The Cherry creek range is not in Denver City or County. County line breaks to the north at 225 and to the east at Yosemite.

http://www.denvergov.org/denvermaps/documents//citywide/street_map.pdf

[Bailey Guns]

A "cop/ATF officer guy"? You got a ticket and had property confiscated and you don't even know by whom?

[flan7211]

A "cop/ATF officer guy"? You got a ticket and had property confiscated and you don't even know by whom?

I think he means a range officer. I talked to him earlier.

[sniper7]

Tag for interest

[StagLefty]

I think he means a range officer. I talked to him earlier.

Issued a ticket and took his mags ?

[flan7211]

Issued a ticket and took his mags ?

If it was Denver PD I could see some fascist taking them.

[Troublco]

I think I'd figure out exactly what agency this "Officer guy" is with (should be able to figure that out from the ticket), and then find out exactly where the range is located, city/county-wise. Then go from there.

[jerrymrc]

Before this blows all out of god knows what Skukripion needs to expand this further. Thanks for leaving all the details out and posting just enough to whip the pitchforks into a frenzy.[Bang][Bang][Bang]


A cop/ATF officer guy Your kidding right?


but he wrote me a ticket and seized my mags But you have no clue who it is from......[Bang][Bang][Bang]

No speculation until we have the facts please.

[Bailey Guns]

The way I read the law (and the way it's explained on the RMGO website) is that it's OK to possess either the gun or the over-21 round mags, but not both together.

Something just isn't adding up with the OP.

[HoneyBadger]

But facts aren't very sensational....

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[flan7211]

I'll vouch the OP is a good dude. Details would be nice though.

[Skukripion]

The guy was a officer of Denver police. I always thought the Cherry Creek State Park is part of Arapahoe County, maybe i was wrong, maybe they got a new regulation.
I always know it's a bad idea to have a mag over 20 round in Denver, the suburb south of Denver is frequented by Denver PD a lot, not sure if they have jurisdiction there.

[Delfuego]

CC Range is in Arapahoe County. I have been their many times with 30rd mags. I think you may just have run into a rookie or a "duddly-do-right". Bummer, hope you get em back.

[cofi]

what was the ticket for?

[dwalker460]

I also use 30 rounders at Cherry creek all the time. Agree that I thought it was in Aurora/Arapahoe county.

What specifically was the ticket for?

[Bitter Clinger]

probably just wanted some mags. That range IS in aurora. At least when i buy a park pass every year it states its for aurora res/cherry creek.

[TriggerHappy]

I would try and get a hold of a Srgt for DPD, and also key in the range. That's not good for them either.

[stevelkinevil]

It has allways been my understanding that this silly arse law only applies to Denver RESIDENTS. Ie, they cannot prevent you from traveling through Denver with your weapon and magazines as long as you are not a resident of the city and county.

[Delfuego]

It has allways been my understanding that this silly arse law only applies to Denver RESIDENTS. Ie, they cannot prevent you from traveling through Denver with your weapon and magazines as long as you are not a resident of the city and county.I have heard this too, it was likely here and from one of you knuckleheads, so who if its true [Roll1]

[00tec]

The guy was a officer of Denver police. I always thought the Cherry Creek State Park is part of Arapahoe County, maybe i was wrong, maybe they got a new regulation.
I always know it's a bad idea to have a mag over 20 round in Denver, the suburb south of Denver is frequented by Denver PD a lot, not sure if they have jurisdiction there.

Cherry Creek Family Shooting Center is in Arapahoe county. See the map in my earlier post. Just because they may patrol that area doesn't mean you have to follow their libtard laws outside their jurisdiction.

[Skukripion]

I have heard this too to it was likely here and from one of you knuckleheads, so who if its true [Roll1]

I buy stuff from G&G Gun in Lakewood quite often. The owner have told me never get caught in Denver with a 30 round mag, whether I reside there or not.

[SideShow Bob]

I buy stuff from G&G Gun in Lakewood quite often. The owner have told me never get caught in Denver with a 30 round mag, whether I reside there or not.

Yep, if you are from outside of Denver they like to bust you, threaten to take you to trial and big fines. But will offer to plea bargain to lesser charges if you surrender your "assault" weapons.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I buy stuff from G&G Gun in Lakewood quite often. The owner have told me never get caught in Denver with a 30 round mag, whether I reside there or not.

You gonna post any more details or are you just gonna talk shit with no intention of actually telling the entire truth?

[Great-Kazoo]

I have heard this too, it was likely here and from one of you knuckleheads, so who if its true [Roll1]


Knuckleheads not. The mag and firearm restrictions apply to denver cty & city residents ONLY.

1) ATF or COP.
Full disclosure of information BEFORE posting 1/2 the story

2) Confiscated under what CRS??

3) SEE ONE.


I feel we should bash the OP as much as some do LE's


TO THE CASTLE

[00tec]

You gonna post any more details or are you just gonna talk shit with no intention of actually telling the entire truth?

Reading difficulties? Posted earlier in the thread.

Cliff notes:
Location: Cherry Creek range
Officer: Denver PD

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Reading difficulties? Posted earlier in the thread.

Cliff notes:
Location: Cherry Creek range
Officer: Denver PD

I call bullshit. Why the hell would a Denver cop be inside the cherry creek state park? And why the hell would he call them an "ATF/Officer"?

His entire argument is bullshit.

Not to mention, he hasn't said a damn thing in regards to what actually happened. Half the story is all he's posted.

[FireMoth]

For the record, It IS a fine line. Denver owns the water, so a lot of the park is in Denver county (check a map)...


..But, it is legal to transport mags through denver, as long as not in a weapon in ready condition (IE, loaded rifle in car)

And as a savvy poster queried, Under what Colorado Revised Statute was seizure of your property and ticketing done?

Since the ticket hasnt been seen, and the OP has not given us details as written on the citation, I will join those calling "Bull Shit" until otherwise proven.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

For the record, It IS a fine line. Denver owns the water, so a lot of the park is in Denver county (check a map)...


..But, it is legal to transport mags through denver, as long as not in a weapon in ready condition (IE, loaded rifle in car)

And as a savvy poster queried, Under what Colorado Revised Statute was seizure of your property and ticketing done?

Since the ticket hasnt been seen, and the OP has not given us details as written on the citation, I will join those calling "Bull Shit" until otherwise proven.

Thank you.

[battle_sight_zero]

The Cherry Creek shooting range is under the jurisdiction of the Arapahoe County Sheriffs office. Denver PD would not have any authority in that area nor would they be able to ticket the op for the mags. If someone was down there claiming they were an officer then I would call the ACSO and let them know. Also no Denver water does not own Cherry Creeks water either. Besides who would want to drink that green soupy stuff anyways. Perhaps the op drank some of that water before going to range and suffered some hullcinations or ill effects?

[sniper7]

can we please stop bashing the OP.

I would like to see more details on this, the ticket, or at least what he was ticketed for and hopefully the outcome if he decides to fight it.

[BushMasterBoy]

Just post the phone number on the ticket for the enforcement agency and I will call them personally! Then I will tell you on here what they say!

[SideShow Bob]

Possibly an LE impersonator with a stolen Denver ticket book that suckered the OP for his magazines ?
To the OP did this officer/ATF agent show you any sort of ID or badge ? If not what made you think he was an LEO ?

[FireMoth]

And i do stand corrected, DPD authority and Denver county stop on the north side of I225, and Denver apparently only has lease for need arrangements for cherry creek water, hence my mis statement.

So, I suppose all that remains is to determine if the OP is a liar, a sucker, or isnt telling us the whole story...

[BPTactical]

Colorado Department of Parks and Recreation Rangers would typically be the first LE contact at Cherry Creek. After that it would be either ACSD or CSP. City and County of Denver has absolutely no jurisdiction over any Cherry Creek State Property.
Cherry Creek is actually owned by the Corps of Engineers and the State oversees it.
Denver Water has some interest in the waterways but none of the grounds.
I am dubious or the OP got rolled up and smoked by some clown who scammed him for his mags.

Or it is the weirdest thing I have ever heard of..

[flan7211]

And i do stand corrected, DPD authority and Denver county stop on the north side of I225, and Denver apparently only has lease for need arrangements for cherry creek water, hence my mis statement.

So, I suppose all that remains is to determine if the OP is a liar, a sucker, or isnt telling us the whole story...

Pretty harsh everybody. If I was the OP I would tell you all to eat a bowl of dicks. Whether he was dupped or not is irrelevant. Instead of an assault why not try to be constructive? What reason would he have to lie? Maybe he was a victim of an eager beaver LOE who was outside his jurisdiction. I talked to him and he said that Denver PD has his mags and will be returning them after they find out whether they are illegal or not. Not sure what that means but maybe he didn't understand what happened either. Most of us do what armed officers tell us to.

[CareyH]

I wish the OP would get on here and fill in the blanks.

But after all the bashing if I was the OP I wouldn't post here anymore either.

[cfortune]

Cherry Creek sucks... hate that I have to resort to going there some times. A fellow board member told me last time he went they tried to charge him for every rifle he brought, claiming the price is for 2 firearms, and its 7 bucks for each additional one.

[StriderZ91]

Wow, I just registered for this forum, and i saw this guy getting bashed... LE's do step over their boundary just for the hell of it. Why would the OP give anymore info on a forum full of faceless threads and comments?

Cherry Creek is right next to where i live, they give people a good share of bullshits, like no steel case ammo and such. And since they are a public owned range, they have officer there at time too, mostly low rank new guys.

[battle_sight_zero]

Pretty harsh everybody. If I was the OP I would tell you all to eat a bowl of dicks. Whether he was dupped or not is irrelevant. Instead of an assault why not try to be constructive? What reason would he have to lie? Maybe he was a victim of an eager beaver LOE who was outside his jurisdiction. I talked to him and he said that Denver PD has his mags and will be returning them after they find out whether they are illegal or not. Not sure what that means but maybe he didn't understand what happened either. Most of us do what armed officers tell us to.

If it was Denver PD that took his at Cherry Creek Family Shooting Center the OP and all of us that use that range have a serious concern. As I said in my prior post the ACSO has jurisdiction there , Denver has none. We are allowed to own 30 round mags in Arapahoe County. I shoot at this range several times a year. I have brought 75 round drums in for my Yugoslav m72 and nobody has barred an eye. My ARs and AKs have never entered the line with nothing less than a 30 round magazine. Something sounds corny with the story, and if Denver PD was enforcing their freaking stupid laws in Arapahoe County then the op needs to report them to the ACSO. I have been using that park for over 25,years and I have never seenDenver PD car thier, nor would I expect too. If some officer enforced a Denver county ordance in Arapahoe County he needs to be held accountable.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Wow, I just registered for this forum, and i saw this guy getting bashed... LE's do step over their boundary just for the hell of it. Why would the OP give anymore info on a forum full of faceless threads and comments?

Right, and anyone, no matter who they are, named striderz91 on a forum is a homosexual liberal who wants to ban guns.

Way to make an opinion on an entire group based on the actions of few. You're not doing much better than the OP.


What's hitting a nerve in this thread is the overall lack of details by the OP. If you gonna Bitch and complain, at least Bitch and complain correctly.


And, all of you that are just assuming this is some stupid cop... I hope you get called out on something you did based on half the story one day... Morons...

[JM Ver. 2.0]

[QUOTE=flan7211;652951]Pretty harsh everybody. If I was the OP I would tell you all to eat a bowl of dicks. Whether he was dupped or not is irrelevant. Instead of an assault why not try to be constructive? What reason would he have to lie? Maybe he was a victim of an eager beaver LOE who was outside his jurisdiction. I talked to him and he said that Denver PD has his mags and will be returning them after they find out whether they are illegal or not. Not sure what that means but maybe he didn't understand what happened either. Most of us do what armed officers tell us to.[/QU

If it was Denver PD that took his at Cherry Creek Family Shooting Center the OP and all of us that use that range have a serious concern. As I said in my prior post the ACSO has jurisdiction there , Denver has none. We are allowed to own 30 round mags in Arapahoe County. I shoot at this range several times a year. I have brought 75 round drums in for my Yugoslav m72 and nobody has barred an eye. My ARs and AKs have never entered the line with nothing less than a 30 round magazine. Something sounds corny with the story, and if Denver PD was enforcing their freaking stupid laws in Arapahoe County then the op needs to report them to the ACSO. I have been using that park for over 25,years and I have never seenDenver PD car thier, nor would I expect too. If some officer enforced a Denver county ordance in Arapahoe County he needs to be held accountable.

This is all completely true! But! Until we know exactly what happened, which we don't, we should all quit assuming shit! Based on the OP's hideous explanation of events, no one knows dick and should shut the Fuck up.


I'm sick of seeing good people made to look like bad guys based on some dip shit's half ass story.

[sniper7]

guys can we just let the OP post the info plz! jeez, it's like dealing with freaking womenz in here!

[StriderZ91]

Right, and anyone, no matter who they are, named striderz91 on a forum is a homosexual liberal who wants to ban guns.

Way to make an opinion on an entire group based on the actions of few. You're not doing much better than the OP.


What's hitting a nerve in this thread is the overall lack of details by the OP. If you gonna Bitch and complain, at least Bitch and complain correctly.


And, all of you that are just assuming this is some stupid cop... I hope you get called out on something you did based on half the story one day... Morons...


Ok, i disagree with homosexual. But disagreement doesn't mean you should insult or disrespect the person. I respect people with choose to be gay. And yes, i am liberal, Pro-Gun liberal.

Strider is the name of Aragorn in the first book of Lord of the Rings. It has no relationship with homosexual or liberal. If you want to insult me, at least do it in a good manner, leave certain groups alone.

[Eggysrun]

I thought the mag rule related to people living in Denver City/County, anyone wanna clarify this?

[StriderZ91]

guys can we just let the OP post the info plz! jeez, it's like dealing with freaking womenz in here!

I guess he'd prefer not to share too much info on a forum. He said he was holding "something"(mags or gun not sure) openly, he might have got in trouble because of that.

[Sharpienads]

This thread is getting interesting. [Coffee]

[Sharpienads]

Pretty harsh everybody. If I was the OP I would tell you all to eat a bowl of dicks. Whether he was dupped or not is irrelevant. Instead of an assault why not try to be constructive? What reason would he have to lie? Maybe he was a victim of an eager beaver LOE who was outside his jurisdiction. I talked to him and he said that Denver PD has his mags and will be returning them after they find out whether they are illegal or not. Not sure what that means but maybe he didn't understand what happened either. Most of us do what armed officers tell us to.

Yeah, that's what I would do as well. Pretty tough crowd tonight.

[StriderZ91]

I thought the mag rule related to people living in Denver City/County, anyone wanna clarify this?

If you travel through Denver area and have them in your car or on person, you are getting screwed too. For Denver residents it's a felony, for someone passing through, probably a fine.

[jhood001]

Cherry Creek is right next to where i live, they give people a good share of bullshits, like no steel case ammo and such.

No steel case ammo? Really? I've shot well over a thousand rounds of it there.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Ok, i disagree with homosexual. But disagreement doesn't mean you should insult or disrespect the person. I respect people with choose to be gay. And yes, i am liberal, Pro-Gun liberal.

Strider is the name of Aragorn in the first book of Lord of the Rings. It has no relationship with homosexual or liberal. If you want to insult me, at least do it in a good manner, leave certain groups alone.

I wasn't insulting you or anyone else. I was making a point. A point which you missed. You made an.... Ya know what, I'm not even going to explain it. It's not worth my time to try and educate the retarded. Now I'm insulting you.

[CareyH]

In before the lock!

[battle_sight_zero]

Yeah, that's what I would do as well. Pretty tough crowd tonight.

I usally don't rant on posts. What has me concerned about this one is that the poster stated he was confronted by a LEO from a jurisdiction with no authority in the Cherry Creek Park. I use that park and range and if someone is impersonating a LEO at this range and taking personal property from anyone there I have a big concern. Personally I respect law enforcement and i would be surprised that a police officer or agent from another jurisdiction would be there doing this in a sane manner. Out of decency the poster needs to follow-up with the Arapahoe Sheriff's office to make sure what happened was legit. I am not calling people names and i apologize for my comment that the poster may have drunk some Cherry Creek water before making the post, however if this story is true it is a safety concern for anybody that uses this park.

[StriderZ91]

No steel case ammo? Really? I've shot well over a thousand rounds of it there.

Same, one of the range officer picked up one of my spent casing and said no steel case ammo here anymore, but the next time i went with steel case ammo, no one said a thing. They sell casing for reloads, you can't reload a steel case, so I figure they didnt want to spend the time to use a magnet and pick out the steel from brass.

[StriderZ91]

I wasn't insulting you or anyone else. I was making a point. A point which you missed. You made an.... Ya know what, I'm not even going to explain it. It's not worth my time to try and educate the retarded. Now I'm insulting you.

Good, keep at it. You are REALLY making a good point for calling someone homosexual without reason.

[jerrymrc]

So on post 13 one beat up POS Mod named Jerrymrc posted

No speculation until we have the facts please.

Once again the membership has done what I thought it would. [Bang]

So Skukripion. When you get your info together and have it in order please PM me and I will open it up for you to post it. I will send a PM as well.

Closed for now gang.

[jerrymrc]

Skukripion has been given a time out of a week for creating a second account of StriderZ91. All is not as it seems but I will let him explain himself when he returns. [Luck]

Normally we would not ban a member for such things but when we ask for an explanation and you ignore us..............

[sniper7]

oh snap

[HBARleatherneck]

yes, that was pretty obviously a second account. I wonder sometimes, do people really think they can fool us, when its so obvious.



but, you guys were pretty rough on him.

[Troublco]

Some were a bit hard on him, but I think he created the situation.

[BPTactical]

Maketh thine bed, thou must layeth in it......

[Jer]

Skukripion has been given a time out of a week for creating a second account of StriderZ91. All is not as it seems but I will let him explain himself when he returns. [Luck]

Normally we would not ban a member for such things but when we ask for an explanation and you ignore us..............

When he started his first post 'I just joined today...' and then immediately took the side of the OP I had a feeling that was the case. Couple that with the fact that he hadn't responded himself and it was pretty obvious. I'm sure all that was left to do was to check the IP's of the two. Not very sneaky.

[Sharpienads]

I must be dumb because I didn't make the connection. [Whacko]

[Chad4000]

Reading difficulties? Posted earlier in the thread.

Cliff notes:
Location: Cherry Creek range
Officer: Denver PD


lol exactly...

I have used 30 rounders there a bunch.. not sure..

[BushMasterBoy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNMB8Hj1nqk&feature=plcp

[Chad4000]

And, all of you that are just assuming this is some stupid cop... I hope you get called out on something you did based on half the story one day... Morons...


lol.. I havent been on in a few weeks... Maier, you seem as annoyed as ever bro! lol ...

[Troublco]

Hm...do y'all suppose we will ever get, as the late, great Paul Harvey would say, the "rest of the story" about this?
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I'm betting not.

[HoneyBadger]

Hm...do y'all suppose we will ever get, as the late, great Paul Harvey would say, the "rest of the story" about this?
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I'm betting not.



Who cares?

RIP Paul Harvey. What a one-of-a-kind gentleman.

[Sharpienads]

Who cares?

RIP Paul Harvey. What a one-of-a-kind gentleman.

Oh, geez. Get a room.

[Tooth]

[Rust_shackleford]

Out here yonder in the western slope in might be a tad unhealthy to take a fellas magazines

[Byte Stryke]

after the beating the OP just took in this thread, I'd be surprised if he ever came back

[battle_sight_zero]

after the beating the OP just took in this thread, I'd be surprised if he ever came back

I thought the OP was banned forever by the admins. The story was bogus and designed to get everyone riled up. The op was also using another profile to flame things even more. Totally uncool!

[flan7211]

I thought the OP was banned forever by the admins. The story was bogus and designed to get everyone riled up.


Where did you hear that big guy?

[stevelkinevil]

yeah they hammered him for 2 weeks from what the mod post stated. I for one hope he doesnt come back, "pro-gun liberal" pish tosh.