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WinterBoarder
09-30-2012, 16:10
While I applaud her message and support, she's failed at "security through obscurity." She's just made herself a target for the bad guys.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21656763/cu-boulder-student-defends-right-carry-gun-campus

Ronin13
10-01-2012, 11:25
I agree- good for her, but she has outed herself as a gun owner in a locale that is not too friendly for such a person. But, I hope these stories keep coming out, when we repeatedly say, like this girl did: "First, she said, criminals don't ask for permission to commit crimes. And, second, students are more vulnerable if their freedom to arm themselves is taken away," then maybe it will get through to some of these idiot liberals who want to ban all guns all over.

Aloha_Shooter
10-01-2012, 11:31
While I applaud her message and support, she's failed at "security through obscurity." She's just made herself a target for the bad guys.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21656763/cu-boulder-student-defends-right-carry-gun-campus

How do you think she made herself a target? If anything, the bad guys know NOT to tangle with her because she MIGHT be carrying.

Ronin13
10-01-2012, 13:15
How do you think she made herself a target? If anything, the bad guys know NOT to tangle with her because she MIGHT be carrying.

He's speaking about the fact that she will now be known as a "person who carries a gun" and the left will target her... [Mad]

Monky
10-01-2012, 13:25
I'm thinking he means the fact that she states her gun is carried in her purse..

1st off body carry is a WHOLE different conversation, but telling someone where you carry and HOW is setting yourself up (should a criminal knowingly want to attack someone they know is carrying a gun) for failure.

gos
10-01-2012, 18:14
Would be funny if a bad guy grabbed her purse to get her JFrame or LCR or whatever, then found out (the hard way) she had an HK45 IWB or something. =P

Adawg38
10-01-2012, 19:21
Others opposed to weapons on campus have said guns don't belong in an environment where students are experimenting with sex, drugs and alcohol, and that concealed weapons could add chaos in a crisis.

Read more: CU-Boulder law student defends right to carry gun on campus - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21656763/cu-boulder-student-defends-right-carry-gun-campus#ixzz286HRBYDo
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Don't worry about the drug part which is illegal but let's worry about the legal concealed carry of gun which someone may use to protect themselves from a meth head who want to rape or kill.

Good for her, hopefully more people follow.

WinterBoarder
10-01-2012, 22:28
How do you think she made herself a target? If anything, the bad guys know NOT to tangle with her because she MIGHT be carrying.

We know where she lives, we know where she goes to school, we know what she looks like, we know her name, we know how and where she carries.

carnplanenut
10-02-2012, 07:44
Your assuming that she is telling hte whole truth. My mentor would tell people that he carried a large framed revolver, He really carried a semi-auto. His philosophy was that someone could accuse him of a crime with a wrong descrition of his firearm.

She may say one thing and the truth may be another with concerns to how or what she carries. Personally, I believe concealed means concealed and that what and how you carry is your business only.

Jason

WinterBoarder
10-02-2012, 15:48
Your assuming that she is telling hte whole truth. My mentor would tell people that he carried a large framed revolver, He really carried a semi-auto. His philosophy was that someone could accuse him of a crime with a wrong descrition of his firearm.

She may say one thing and the truth may be another with concerns to how or what she carries. Personally, I believe concealed means concealed and that what and how you carry is your business only.

Jason

I did a real quick Google search and found a number of hits that seemed to confirm what she said.

SA Friday
10-02-2012, 17:18
Belief isn't a t-shirt. Personally I think she's got a lot more guts than some in this thread so far.

Fmedges
10-06-2012, 23:18
I think it's great that there was an article written that added some common sense to this debate. I feel the exact same way that this lady does and it's nice that our side got some press.

hatidua
10-07-2012, 13:24
Putting a face to the issue and letting others know that CCW holders are in every facet of society and aren't running around shooting people serves a purpose, be it in Boulder or some other municipality. I'm glad it was a female law student that did this rather than some middle-aged white guy like myself as that seems to be who the media always portrays as "gun nuts". Good for her!

bigmyk2k
10-29-2012, 09:30
There has been a lot of interesting follow up on this, both from the original discussion between this gal and Goddard (the prof. from VT) and the fact that it has opened the discussion so much.
She's a cool gal (my wife's mentee) and is very honest. The original exchange happened when Goddard was giving a talk about his experience, and stated that it is really easy to get a CCW card, and that it made it more likely that bad guys would be carrying in his classes, which he wasn't ok with.
While I understand his resistance to have guns in his class given his experience, she stood up and made the points,
1- What makes you think a bad guy is going to bother getting a CCW permit, and
2- Wouldn't you rather a responsible gun owner/carrier had been there to confront the shooter and end the event, than having the responsible ones leave their guns at home because they want to abide by the laws?

Good points, I think.