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buffalobo
01-20-2019, 21:05
You could purchase and package for long term storage. Bang, zoom, done. Also purchase canning, storage products and materials.
Great-Kazoo
01-20-2019, 21:16
What was the advantage to the in-house canning? Did they have a wider selection of foods or something?
HA.
You could can a lot more selection than they offer, already canned.
I am running low on some good Hot cocoa mix. This year Sam's Club and CostCo only had the swiss miss version which I won't even drink when offered free at work.
I have never been to one of these places; not sure about the rules, etc.
Great-Kazoo
01-21-2019, 13:16
I am running low on some good Hot cocoa mix. This year Sam's Club and CostCo only had the swiss miss version which I won't even drink when offered free at work.
I have never been to one of these places; not sure about the rules, etc.
Show up during business hours, bring cash, select items, pay and leave. It's not required to be a LDS member. The LDS opens their doors to all, all are welcome.
Show up during business hours, bring cash, select items, pay and leave. It's not required to be a LDS member. The LDS opens their doors to all, all are welcome.
Correct. Although, given my wife wears skirts, and we had 2 little blond haired, blue-eyed kids with us, they probably thought we were of them.
Great-Kazoo
01-21-2019, 18:35
now you tell me...
Yeah, and the market's soft on resale too ;)
Great-Kazoo
01-23-2019, 00:25
Bummer, the Phoenix area cannery is closed. Or as the voicemail message says. This cannery is permanently closed, don't leave a message, or try going to the address listed on line, Goodbye.
Necropost.
Thinking of heading down here to lay in some supplies.
Could someone suggest a good book/resource on what to get to say, feed a two people for six months?
I'm new to this.
O2
Great-Kazoo
02-27-2020, 08:18
Bummer, the Phoenix area cannery is closed. Or as the voicemail message says. This cannery is permanently closed, don't leave a message, or try going to the address listed on line, Goodbye.
updated. While there's no cannery. The do have their store front open. yeah!
Completely forgot about this place. Looked it up and it's less than 5 miles from where I now work. Gotta swing by.
buffalobo
02-27-2020, 09:12
Necropost.
Thinking of heading down here to lay in some supplies.
Could someone suggest a good book/resource on what to get to say, feed a two people for six months?
I'm new to this.
O2There are lots of online resources and calculators. What to store and how much depends on your needs and goals.
We(my family) look at food storage in 3 different groupings.
1) 3 days
2) week to 3 months
3) longer than 3 months
What you store and how you store it is very important.
https://www.learnreligions.com/calculate-food-storage-needs-3876040
I have found links to some good info on above site.
Completely forgot about this place. Looked it up and it's less than 5 miles from where I now work. Gotta swing by.
Can you check if they are carrying the 25# bags of white beans again, please. TIA
Can you check if they are carrying the 25# bags of white beans again, please. TIA
I wont be able to until at least Wednesday.
Can you check if they are carrying the 25# bags of white beans again, please. TIA
That's racist. [Sarcasm2]
I'd be interested to know if there's a significant difference in price and availability between the LDS stores and Sam's or Costco. Sam's carries many foods in #10 cans, and smaller sizes too. They also have a good stock of various bulk foods like beans, rice, flours, in 10 to 50 lb. bags.
Occasionally I buy large bags of pinto beans or rice, then vacuum pack in serving quantities. A 2 cup package of pinto beans reconstituted will make a full crock pot or dutch oven pot of beans. A little goes a long ways. We'll get several meals from one crock pot and it's a great accompaniment to pork shoulder, game meats or most anything. Vacuum sealed then bagged in freezer zips and stored in plastic tubs or buckets in a cool dark space prevents oxidation and pests. Last year we finished the pintos that I vacuum packed in 2009, and they were perfectly good.
We used to store about 4 years worth of food but in our current living space we probably have only 2-2.5 years of food stored. Same with other necessities such as TP, toiletries, soaps and cleaning products, disinfectants, etc. It doesn't take any special purchases, just buy a little more than you normally use every time you go to the store, then repackage as necessary and rotate the goods.
It's easy to be complacent with the abundance we see in the grocery stores and their seemingly endless supply chain. Apparently many Americans have only a few days to a few weeks of food on hand. My dear cousin is one of them. To me that's like playing Russian roulette, and every bit as short sighted.
80232
I just dumped out about 50 gallons of water I've been storing for about a decade. We've really fallen off of the food storage band wagon.
I hope you didn?t dump that on your lawn.
Being that far past the expiration date it might not be good for the grass.
Necropost.
Thinking of heading down here to lay in some supplies.
Could someone suggest a good book/resource on what to get to say, feed a two people for six months?
I'm new to this.
O2
Agreed with what buffalobo was saying. The mormons have a ton of information available for getting started with preparedness, esp. food storage.
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage?lang=eng
When most of the canneries closed up the self-canning, the LDS church put some extra effort into their website. You can find a lot of the same stuff listed there, either for direct ship to you or to at least price compare what might be at the local stores.
https://store.churchofjesuschrist.org/usa/en/food-storage-3074457345616678849-1
Fun note, the dried refried beans are actually kinda good as snacky-type food eaten dry. I found the carrots odd tasting myself though. Kinda a weird sweet taste that I can't identify.
All that being said, like many I'm a big fan of "buy what you eat" as the first thing you should be thinking about. Having a ton of rice and beans is quick and cheap insurance, but I'm a big fan of rotating things like canned chili and costco canned meats, etc. that you might actually enjoy eating too. Water should usually be your first prep but you don't need fancy containers, etc. for all of that. Start with more "realistic" prepping challenges and go from there. You're much more likely to need to have food / water /etc. for a week stuck in a blizzard without electricity than you are to be stuck hiding in your house from coronavirus for 6 months, etc. Get in the habit of buying food you like and putting it in the basement/back of pantry and then rotating the same stuff you bought 3-6 months ago or whatever to the front and eat it next. Pick a weekend and for fun try to make a couple meals out of whatever you have stored and see if you actually like it / know how to cook it. A lot of the commercial prepper-marketed stuff is not amazing and overpriced. Mountain House food is often considered on the "better" end, and you can find individual bags at walmart for not too much, or costco/sams often have packs of them. Not a horrible option, but I wouldn't go crazy buying a lot of that sort of stuff.
Not sure if it's still out there, but Costco did used to have an 80lb tub of bulk prepper mac and cheese you could buy if you were nuts. :)
I'd be interested to know if there's a significant difference in price and availability between the LDS stores and Sam's or Costco. Sam's carries many foods in #10 cans, and smaller sizes too. They also have a good stock of various bulk foods like beans, rice, flours, in 10 to 50 lb. bags.
Occasionally I buy large bags of pinto beans or rice, then vacuum pack in serving quantities. A 2 cup package of pinto beans reconstituted will make a full crock pot or dutch oven pot of beans. A little goes a long ways. We'll get several meals from one crock pot and it's a great accompaniment to pork shoulder, game meats or most anything. Vacuum sealed then bagged in freezer zips and stored in plastic tubs or buckets in a cool dark space prevents oxidation and pests. Last year we finished the pintos that I vacuum packed in 2009, and they were perfectly good.
We used to store about 4 years worth of food but in our current living space we probably have only 2-2.5 years of food stored. Same with other necessities such as TP, toiletries, soaps and cleaning products, disinfectants, etc. It doesn't take any special purchases, just buy a little more than you normally use every time you go to the store, then repackage as necessary and rotate the goods.
It's easy to be complacent with the abundance we see in the grocery stores and their seemingly endless supply chain. Apparently many Americans have only a few days to a few weeks of food on hand. My dear cousin is one of them. To me that's like playing Russian roulette, and every bit as short sighted.
Great advice. However, I'm now curious what a 4 year supply of TP looks like... :D
Great advice. However, I'm now curious what a 4 year supply of TP looks like... :D
I'm pretty sure we used that much when we TP'd a schoolmate's house in Lakewood back in the 80s...allegedly.
Great advice. However, I'm now curious what a 4 year supply of TP looks like... :D
Ha, ha, I'm sure I've got that photo somewhere. Imagine a storage/reloading room with fourteen 4'x6'x18" chrome storage racks in rows, and on the top shelf of four of those are four TP packages stacked two high. The packages measure ~14"x14"x2'. Sixteen bundles like this, plus room on each top shelf for paper towels too. That's 720 rolls or about a roll every two days. Works for the two of us. :rolleyes:
80233
Maybe bidets will become a prepper item. My neighbors used reusable diapers for their kids, so a kitchen sink sprayer was t'd into the toilet supply line. Pretty nifty. Not heated, but would work in a pinch.
Maybe bidets will become a prepper item. My neighbors used reusable diapers for their kids, so a kitchen sink sprayer was t'd into the toilet supply line. Pretty nifty. Not heated, but would work in a pinch.
I'm sure they already are. All our baths have one and they can significantly reduce the use of TP. We could be more conservative of paper as well.
https://www.amazon.com/Luxe-Bidet-Neo-320-Non-Electric/dp/B00JG3NVG2/ref=asc_df_B00JG3NVG2/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167131584886&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14567015534098944608&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1014485&hvtargid=pla-274565177882&psc=1
Do you just run the hot water from the sink?
clodhopper
02-27-2020, 15:41
Agreed with what buffalobo was saying. The mormons have a ton of information available for getting started with preparedness, esp. food storage.
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage?lang=eng
When most of the canneries closed up the self-canning, the LDS church put some extra effort into their website. You can find a lot of the same stuff listed there, either for direct ship to you or to at least price compare what might be at the local stores.
https://store.churchofjesuschrist.org/usa/en/food-storage-3074457345616678849-1
Fun note, the dried refried beans are actually kinda good as snacky-type food eaten dry. I found the carrots odd tasting myself though. Kinda a weird sweet taste that I can't identify.
All that being said, like many I'm a big fan of "buy what you eat" as the first thing you should be thinking about. Having a ton of rice and beans is quick and cheap insurance, but I'm a big fan of rotating things like canned chili and costco canned meats, etc. that you might actually enjoy eating too. Water should usually be your first prep but you don't need fancy containers, etc. for all of that. Start with more "realistic" prepping challenges and go from there. You're much more likely to need to have food / water /etc. for a week stuck in a blizzard without electricity than you are to be stuck hiding in your house from coronavirus for 6 months, etc. Get in the habit of buying food you like and putting it in the basement/back of pantry and then rotating the same stuff you bought 3-6 months ago or whatever to the front and eat it next. Pick a weekend and for fun try to make a couple meals out of whatever you have stored and see if you actually like it / know how to cook it. A lot of the commercial prepper-marketed stuff is not amazing and overpriced. Mountain House food is often considered on the "better" end, and you can find individual bags at walmart for not too much, or costco/sams often have packs of them. Not a horrible option, but I wouldn't go crazy buying a lot of that sort of stuff.
Not sure if it's still out there, but Costco did used to have an 80lb tub of bulk prepper mac and cheese you could buy if you were nuts. :)
Are they just selling the canned supplies? I used to pick up bulk bagged stuff and take care of packaging myself. It looks like all the food items are already in cans.
Do you just run the hot water from the sink?
Yes, in two baths I did. One went neatly down through the cabinet and along the baseboard. In the cabin I had to go down through the cabinet and into the crawl space then up through the floor on the opposite side of the room. In another I plumbed a new hot water line from the water heater through a wall and into the bath next to the cold water service. All very neat installations, trouble free for 4 years. The warm water is nice and delivers within 3-7 seconds depending on the installation.
Yes, in two baths I did. One went neatly down through the cabinet and along the baseboard. In the cabin I had to go down through the cabinet and into the crawl space then up through the floor on the opposite side of the room. In another I plumbed a new hot water line from the water heater through a wall and into the bath next to the cold water service. All very neat installations, trouble free for 4 years. The warm water is nice and delivers within 3-7 seconds depending on the installation.
Or just go cold. Better than a cup of extra-caffeinated coffee on a winter morning for waking you up quick!
Just got back from the store in Colorado Springs. They're pretty wiped out. Saw one guy leaving with about 48 cases of stuff. I just got a few cans of different stuff to experiment with.
O2
Hey, does anyone know of a source of plastic can lids for #10 cans?
Hm. I was going to point you back to the online LDS store until I realized the lids were discontinued there. I did find this thread (https://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=933372) where they have 3 online options posted at various pricing... I would have thought amazon or ebay would be an easy option too but I didn't find something as quick there as I would have thought.
I'm sure you know already but it's probably unfortunately one of the worst times in the last few years to be looking to stock up. I'm bummed too to see how much the LDS store has cut back on options too. :(
I looked on line and the only store location shown is in Colorado Springs. Can someone fill me in with a link or locations on other stores closer to Aurora or Denver? Thanks for your help.
I looked on line and the only store location shown is in Colorado Springs. Can someone fill me in with a link or locations on other stores closer to Aurora or Denver? Thanks for your help.
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/self-reliance/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations?lang=eng
tactical_2012
03-06-2020, 16:43
I heard lds places are getting low on stock. Sam's and costco are out of rice, beans, and lots of stuff. I checked out the Shamrock Food Distributor placed in C/S off Academy and Galley it's open to the public. They have tons of bulk supplies and have good prices
Hey, does anyone know of a source of plastic can lids for #10 cans?
I'll answer my own post. When in stock, the LDS food store has them for $0.25 each. Picked up a few today along with some more supplies.
O2
Check the big Asian market in COS. I doubt they’re being hit with crowds.
kidicarus13
03-14-2020, 13:21
I'll answer my own post. When in stock, the LDS food store has them for $0.25/each. Pickup a a few today along with some more supplies.
O2Not online. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200314/b980d63166df14117102d57a261c0fbe.jpg
Great-Kazoo
04-03-2020, 18:44
https://providentliving.com/
Coronavirus Update
Due to the Coronavirus pandemic, our normal business operations have been temporarily suspended and preparedness products are sold out
kidicarus13
04-03-2020, 20:32
You know it's bad when you run through the Mormons' food reserves.
Great-Kazoo
05-26-2020, 13:53
UPDATE: They are still closed, until future notice. Expecting a mid sept reopening, maybe.
You know it's bad when you run through the Mormons' food reserves.
No doubt!
UPDATE: They are still closed, until future notice. Expecting a mid sept reopening, maybe.
DAMN!!!
clodhopper
05-27-2020, 09:06
To be fair, the concept they follow is to prepare when times are good, not necessarily be a supply point during the bad ones.
I wonder if it's more of a supply chain issue.
There are posts in this thread about how Provident Living isn't really a money maker for the Mormon church, but they do it anyway. In a situation like this, you'd think they'd be all hands on deck to meet the increased demand and pad their bottom line. But if they're closed until September because of COVID, that suggests to me that they may very well have a supply chain issue, which isn't particularly encouraging.
Great-Kazoo
05-28-2020, 00:58
To be fair, the concept they follow is to prepare when times are good, not necessarily be a supply point during the bad ones.
Exactly.
I wonder if it's more of a supply chain issue.
There are posts in this thread about how Provident Living isn't really a money maker for the Mormon church, but they do it anyway. In a situation like this, you'd think they'd be all hands on deck to meet the increased demand and pad their bottom line. But if they're closed until September because of COVID, that suggests to me that they may very well have a supply chain issue, which isn't particularly encouraging.
They're not closed due to cv-19. They're closed due to resupplying the store fronts.
The provident Living (Home Storage Centers) or cannery as some of still refer to them as, is what's closed. The bishops Storehouse, which supplies those in need (ebt, wic and some special programs) are still open. Only you need the right paperwork to gain access.
IMO The mormons who have been BE PREPARED for ever, not just for a disaster. Looked at the numbers of panic driven hoarding. Took a vote and decided Their church and it's members come first..
With (Im sure) knowledge of supplies across the board and potential shortages of who knows what. They , like everyone, else put their people first. Wouldn't you?
tactical_2012
07-24-2020, 18:38
Anyone know if they have reopened
HBARleatherneck
07-24-2020, 19:04
call and ask.
CO?Aurora
Address Phone
3233 N Fraser St
Aurora, CO 80011 303-371-7650
Schedule
Tuesday & Thursday & Saturday 10:00 a.m.?2:00 p.m.
Wednesday 3:30 p.m.?7:30 p.m.
CO?Colorado Springs
Address Phone
4090 Center Park Dr
Colorado Springs, CO 80916 719-550-0433
Schedule
Wednesday 4:00 p.m.?7:00 p.m.
Thursday 9:00 a.m.?12:00 noon
Saturday 9:00 a.m.?11:00 a.m. (except General Conference and Holidays)
CO?Grand Junction
Address Phone
391 Indian Road
Grand Junction, CO 81501-3816
970-245-2011
Schedule
Thursday 8:00 a.m.?6:00 p.m.
Saturday 9:00 a.m.?1:00 p.m.
CO?Manassa
Address Phone
117 N 3rd St
Manassa, CO 81141
719-843-5200
Schedule
Tuesday 9:00 a.m.?12:00 noon
Great-Kazoo
07-24-2020, 20:55
Anyone know if they have reopened
ALL store fronts are closed until further notice. Can't order online, either. Unless someone opened the online ordering, since wed.
I guess they don’t believe in the power of the Father (who apparently was once a man, or some polygamous bullshit?). Don’t they want their planet?! Either way, I still make hooch from the Mormon honey.
tactical_2012
08-20-2020, 09:47
Called the storage center in the springs today and was told they may reopen in October or November
Great-Kazoo
08-20-2020, 12:49
Called the storage center in the springs today and was told they may reopen in October or November
key word. May. Out here they were told the same thing. But don't see a lot of inventory being readied. HOWEVER their on line store is up. Received a few cases of goods last week.
saltydecimator
01-13-2021, 10:44
noones worried about food now!?
gnihcraes
01-13-2021, 11:25
I am. I had to leave my food reserves with my ex and kids.
Trying to build up a new stash again. Money is tight. I did buy some items from Costco.
Might order something from Mormons.
I need water jugs or barrels cheap.
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I am. I had to leave my food reserves with my ex and kids.
Trying to build up a new stash again. Money is tight. I did buy some items from Costco.
Might order something from Mormons.
I need water jugs or barrels cheap.
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Define cheap re: water storage.
I am. I had to leave my food reserves with my ex and kids.
Trying to build up a new stash again. Money is tight. I did buy some items from Costco.
Might order something from Mormons.
I need water jugs or barrels cheap.
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It is 'easy' to get local barrels cheap for non-drinkable uses in CS (they say it is food grade, but I just use it for other uses) ...I believe Denver has some recycle places that offer used but food grade quality barrels or totes. So for under 50(ish) dollars 55 gal drum, or a lot more for the 250 gal totes.
There are a few 'camping' stores that provide new blue barrel food grade barrels. I even ordered on barrel for Texas location from CostCO when they were having issues with their water well.
$20 dollars buys a lot of cases of water until the budge allows for something more.
Great-Kazoo
01-13-2021, 21:46
noones worried about food now!?
We haven't been worried for a few years.
Grant H.
01-13-2021, 22:43
noones worried about food now!?
Not really a "now" question.
It takes space, but maintaining personal surety in all forms is a long term proposition and mindset.
Rotate. Use. Replenish.
Great-Kazoo
01-13-2021, 23:59
Not really a "now" question.
It takes space, but maintaining personal surety in all forms is a long term proposition and mindset.
Rotate. Use. Replenish.
As well as. Once you find a product everyone likes. Buy MORE!
I was at wally world the other day. They had 3 pallets of Augason farms potato shreds , powdered milk and some veggies in stock.
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