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spleify
10-05-2012, 00:11
Looking to upgrade my trigger on my 700, what is recommended? Can I do this for around $150?

Graves
10-05-2012, 01:59
http://www.shilen.com/pricesTriggers.html
[Beer]

BPTactical
10-05-2012, 06:18
Mikes choice is solid but it is pretty hard to beat a Timney 510 as well. Jewell is also a solid choice but they cost more and are more susceptible to dirt.
Decisions, decisions.......

Hoser
10-05-2012, 07:03
Shilen or Jewell.

For dragging around the dirt, not a Jewell.

spleify
10-05-2012, 07:58
So out of these listed which would you suggest

Shilen Standard Model Trigger - Chrome-moly ............... $110.00
Shilen Standard Model Trigger - Stainless .....................$155.00
Shilen Competition Model Trigger .................................$155.00

C Ward
10-05-2012, 08:02
For a buck and a half pretty much one choice , Shilen. I've run both the Shilen and Jewell in my rifles and had no issue's. My stuff gets used a lot in the dirt and not treated like a museum piece and I haven't had issue's with my Jewell in the dirt but know people that have .

ray1970
10-05-2012, 08:04
So out of these listed which would you suggest

Shilen Standard Model Trigger - Chrome-moly ............... $110.00
Shilen Standard Model Trigger - Stainless .....................$155.00
Shilen Competition Model Trigger .................................$155.00

If you're going to make a change, might as well make a big change and go for the competition model.

C Ward
10-05-2012, 08:07
Get the standard trigger , got to swap the safety from the old Remy trigger , the X mark safety wont work so if you have that trigger you'll need a safety kit too , Rifle basics has them separately . The comp trigger is a bench rest trigger and will be to light for anything but that .

spleify
10-05-2012, 08:19
So if I get the Shilen I need to swap over the safety from my current one? You would think for the money they could make it complete for ya.

Between the Shilen standard chrome moly and the Timney (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/220642/timney-rifle-trigger-remington-700-40x-with-safety-1-1-2-to-4-lb-blue) what is recommended?

Thanks for the help guys!

DHC
10-05-2012, 08:33
So if I get the Shilen I need to swap over the safety from my current one? You would think for the money they could make it complete for ya.

Between the Shilen standard chrome moly and the Timney (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/220642/timney-rifle-trigger-remington-700-40x-with-safety-1-1-2-to-4-lb-blue) what is recommended?

Thanks for the help guys!

Is your OEM trigger a standard Rem 700 or the newer X-Mark trigger? If the former, then you already have the parts you need to install the Shilen - just need to swap them over, which is a pretty simple task. If you have the X-Mark, then you need to purchase a couple of extra parts, as follows:

* Safety -- http://www.midwayusa.com/product/479334/rifle-basix-replacement-safety-kit-remington-700-pre-2006-black?cm_vc=sugv1523226

* Bolt Stop Release -- http://www.midwayusa.com/product/352426/remington-bolt-stop-release-remington-700-steel-blue

BTW - Midway has the Shilen for a bit less than the $110 you mentioned upthread. The Midway price is $98 -- http://www.midwayusa.com/product/523226/shilen-standard-rifle-trigger-remington-700-40x-without-safety-1-1-2-lb-to-3-lb-blue?cm_vc=1554BrandPopProd

I have not compared the Shilen to the Timney, but I have installed the Shilen trigger in two rifles and am quite pleased with them and the improvement over the Remington OEM triggers.

I hope this helps.

C Ward
10-05-2012, 08:47
If you get the Brownell's discount they are under 100 , Rifle Basics has a safety kit with the safety and bolt stop parts that are needed all together . Like I was saying before only the X mark parts wont transfer the older trigger parts will work , so it depends on what trigger you have now .

spleify
10-05-2012, 08:52
How do I tell what I have now?

spleify
10-05-2012, 08:53
Thanks for the info DHC

DHC
10-05-2012, 09:01
How do I tell what I have now?

The X-Mark is marketed as an adjustable trigger. If you can see a small hex screw for adjusting the trigger, then you have the X-Mark. If not, you probably have the standard OEM Remington trigger.

If needed, I can take photos of the two different triggers and attach them - just let me know.

spleify
10-05-2012, 09:11
There is indeed an adjusting screw in the trigger on mine.

DHC
10-05-2012, 09:31
There is indeed an adjusting screw in the trigger on mine.

That would be the X-Mark.

So if you decide to upgrade to the Shilen trigger, you will need to purchase the additional parts (Safety and Bolt Stop Release) mentioned earlier. Those add another $35 or so to the overall cost - but still within the $150 you mentioned initially.

Alternatively, the Timney comes with the safety and is a bit less money that the Shilen + Safety. As I have no experience with the Timney, I cannot offer an opinion on the trigger.

BTW - the first rifle I upgraded with a Shilen was from a standard Rem OEM trigger and the improvement was dramatic. The next rifle I upgraded had the X-Mark - which itself was quite a bit better than the standard Rem trigger. Still, the Shilen is noticeably improved over the X-Mark. Definitely an upgrade worth doing. If the Timney matches the Shilen it will be a significant upgrade from your current trigger.

Rust_shackleford
10-05-2012, 10:17
Looking to upgrade my trigger on my 700, what is recommended? Can I do this for around $150?
Timney[Beer]

SA Friday
10-05-2012, 11:08
I have a Timney on my last custom build off of a Rem 700 receiver. I've found that I like the longer flat ridged trigger bow over a thinner curved trigger bow.

The sear on the Timney didn't like the recesses on the firing pin I had in the bolt. It was still contacting the firing pin in after release and causing light strikes. I went to a custom (larger and tighter fitting) shroud and an aluminum firing pin and the issue completely disappeared. Not sure this is a Timney specific problem though. It could be a basic issue with any trigger change. from the other Rem 700's I own, the OEM shrouds could all be a bit larger to tighten up the rear of the bolt when in lock-up IMO.

nisils14
10-05-2012, 15:00
I had a timney flat trigger put on mine, much crisper and consistent than the crap mark pro. The X mark is also smooth and gray/silver in color vs the previous trigger is ridged and black in color.

offgrid
10-05-2012, 15:33
A few years ago replace a X-mark with a Timney. With a little fussing it broke like glass, no creep which is what I prefer. Did not have the problem SA Friday mentioned. Put about 3000rds on it, no problems.

spleify
10-05-2012, 17:37
So I think I decided on the Timney, now if I could only get this stinkin Midway code to work I would have ordered it already.

Thanks for all the help gents.

DHC
10-05-2012, 17:54
So I think I decided on the Timney, now if I could only get this stinkin Midway code to work I would have ordered it already.

Thanks for all the help gents.

Let us know how it goes with the install and how you like it once installed.

SA Friday
10-05-2012, 22:56
Let us know how it goes with the install and how you like it once installed.

Short of any issues like I had on the custom build, I suspect he might cream himself after using an X-barf trigger.[Tooth]

banks74
10-06-2012, 09:26
I'll be the odd ball here. I like a 40x or an older remmy trigger tuned to perfection by a good smith.

spleify
10-06-2012, 09:34
I'll be the odd ball here. I like a 40x or an older remmy trigger tuned to perfection by a good smith.

Do you have more info on this. Remember your talking to an ignorant newb here...lol

J
10-06-2012, 09:59
I'll be the odd ball here. I like a 40x or an older remmy trigger tuned to perfection by a good smith.

Are they that tune-able? My dad had one of those. I hated that thing from the factory, and couldn't imagine that huge of a difference from a tune. But I have no idea.

J
10-06-2012, 10:03
Do you have more info on this. Remember your talking to an ignorant newb here...lol

You have an X-mark, which I haven't ever heard of a gun-smith tuning to good results. He was talking about the older remmy triggers, pre-xmark.

Man do I hate those old remmy triggers, but I've never shot one that has been reworked, so maybe there are a lot of easy gains to have with them.

banks74
10-06-2012, 10:04
Ya the pre x mark triggers adjust really nicely by a good smith. My favorite is the older style Remington's with the grooves on the trigger itself. Also the 40x triggers are end user adjustable for weight.

I believe you can only go down to 2.5# or so before they become unsafe?? Which is light enough for me personally.

I'm sure one of the Smiths here can provide more info on all this. I've had a couple of GA precision guns with tuned remmy triggers and they were great!

You can pick up old style remmy triggers on sniper hide etc for fairly cheap.