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http://www.9news.com/news/article/293151/71/Police-search-Ketner-Reservoir-for-missing-girl
This sickens me and makes me want to lock and load every firearm in my house to protect my family. I hope she is found and okay but it doesn't look good. This is my backyard. Police and volunteers are out searching and even police and FBI are searching peoples houses I am told. My wife works at the Diamond Shamrock down the street and as she went to get Groceries the Store called her in so the FBI could look at store footage because they believe she was in that area noonish friday. The FBI Agent told her it didn't look good because they found her pants she was wearing in an area, I am not sure where. I am thinking I am gonna join the search tomorrow.
Pray they find the grl,alive.
Also pray they find the scumsuckngfkturdsonabetchfukhead that did this,may he cease breathing,,beneath a deep lake.
islandermyk
10-06-2012, 18:31
I to hope that they find her.... this shit actually pisses me off...
enough said..
My prayers to her and her family....
When this stuff happens close to home its 10X worse. I had friends that went up today and help search but they were turned away because they said they had enough people already. I hope they find the girl and she is OK. I cant imagine what her parents and grandmother are going through.
Tinelement
10-06-2012, 18:35
Child predators are the lowest form of scum there is.
Crap drives me nuts.
Give your kiddos an extra squeeze tonight.
Hope they find her
spittoon
10-06-2012, 18:36
I agree this makes me sick. I pray they find her safe.
Prayers with the Girl and Her Family. Hope they find her safe.
This absolutely makes me want to vomit, hopefully the low life POS gets caught and receives what he deserves. .
islandermyk
10-06-2012, 18:54
Child predators are the lowest form of scum there is.
Crap drives me nuts.
I wonder if it's okay to shoot them on site.... and get away with it?
... just saying...
I want to clear up about the pants found. The wife said they found pants that may be hers but aren't for sure. I just don't want to put out false info. 500+ volunteers is awesome. Prayers for everybody. I hope they find her okay and may just not sleep so well tonight. If they more volunteers I am in as I hope plenty of others which I don't think will be a problem. Hopefully she's not lost out there because it is gonna be a cold one tonight.
I havent been around the tv or computer much today but I was driving around the state a lot and I was seeing the billboards announcing an amber alert. I see now what is going on. I sure hope they find her. I sure hope someone puts a bullet in that freaks head!
tmjohnson
10-06-2012, 19:25
We will pray that she is found quickly. As a parent I can't imagine the nightmare her parents are going thru
Thoughts and prayers for the child and family.
I hope they find the person responsible for this and the hang him/her in public. I have no sympathy for child molesters. Every since my niece was molested by brother in law I would like to kill them all, this shit hits home just too much.
Tinelement
10-06-2012, 19:28
I wonder if it's okay to shoot them on site.... and get away with it?
... just saying...
I would classify them as varmints.
theGinsue
10-06-2012, 19:55
A cute 10 year old girl who walks alone for 3 blocks every day, taking the same route. Somebody definitely nabbed her.
In my day, walking 3 blocks, or a 1/2 mile was relatively safe - not in today's day & age. I pray they find her alive & safe, but, honestly, I wouldn't count on it. I just hope other parents wake up to the fact of the type of world we now live in. There we monsters out there, and most of them look just like you and me.
Snowman78
10-06-2012, 21:01
I want to clear up about the pants found. The wife said they found pants that may be hers but aren't for sure. I just don't want to put out false info. 500+ volunteers is awesome. Prayers for everybody. I hope they find her okay and may just not sleep so well tonight. If they more volunteers I am in as I hope plenty of others which I don't think will be a problem. Hopefully she's not lost out there because it is gonna be a cold one tonight.
Ya I was out searching with them for about 5 hrs today. If we found anything we would call the police over and they would decided if they wanted to keep it. I went from about 96th and wads west to Stanley lake and then did the full east side of the lake north to about 102nd
Great-Kazoo
10-06-2012, 21:41
I wonder if it's okay to shoot them on site.... and get away with it?
... just saying...
Know the law and use / apply as you feel is necessary.
Deadly Force is allowed to prevent a kidnapping and or sexual assault.
18-1-704 Use of physical force in defense of a person.
(1) Except as provided in subsections (2) and (3) of this section, a person is justified in using physical force upon another person in order to defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful physical force by that other person, and he may use a degree of force which he reasonably believes to be necessary for that purpose. (2) Deadly physical force may be used only if a person reasonably believes a lesser degree of force is inadequate and:
(a) The actor has reasonable ground to believe, and does believe, that he or another person is in imminent danger of being killed or of receiving great bodily injury; or
(b) The other person is using or reasonably appears about to use physical force against an occupant of a dwelling or business establishment while committing or attempting to commit burglary as defined in sections 18-4-202 to 18-4-204; or
(c) The other person is committing or reasonably appears about to commit kidnapping as defined in section 18-3-301 or 18-3-302, robbery as defined in section 18-4-301 or 18-4-302, sexual assault as set forth in section 18-3-402, or in section 18-3-403 as it existed prior to July 1, 2000, or assault as defined in sections 18-3-202 and 18-3-203.
Byte Stryke
10-06-2012, 21:54
Far past time to start slaying the monsters...
All I'm Saying.
Shooting fukturds like this one,would be too easy.
He,she or them,,need to feel the anguish of true torment.
Grew up in Wastminster (84th Lowell), wife grew up off of 102 in wads. Times are not what they once were. Thats just one of the many reasons when we have children we won't raise them near the city. BTW I wish that they would bring back linching.
rockhound
10-06-2012, 23:22
man I dont even live in the city and there is no way i let my girls walk home
the bus stop 700 feet from my driveway, i pick them up everyday.
JM Ver. 2.0
10-07-2012, 01:02
This happened ONE MILE from my house.... My sister is 11... God help the bastard if I find him first.
jhood001
10-07-2012, 01:59
This happened ONE MILE from my house.... My sister is 11... God help the bastard if I find him first.
< 1 mile here. Good neighborhood for the most part. Just goes to show that this can happen anywhere. Stay vigilant everyone.
Hopefully they find her and get her back safe
I was reading yesterday that the father is in a custody battle for the girl...lets hope that's what happened.
theGinsue
10-07-2012, 09:18
The police interviewed the father back in MO where he lives & "feel reasonably assured that he isn't involved" in the girls disappearance. Of course, having a third party get the girl for you while maintaining an alibi works too.
I REALLY hope, too, that the father arranged for his daughter to be picked up and brought to him - safely.
No child should have to live in fear of these monsters. And yes, a swift trial immediately followed by a public lynching just might deter the next sick b@sard from abducting a child.
My thoughts & prayers remain with this little one.
StagLefty
10-07-2012, 11:09
I can't even begin to understand what a family goes through during an incident like this. My prayers are with that family and little girl.
Does anyone have any updates?
StagLefty
10-07-2012, 15:58
Just heard they found a backpack and water bottle that may belong to her in Superior-but with that said I never know when to trust the media anymore.
If she was nabbed, they should be looking in Mexico.
I'm having a hard time with this shit, can't evening imagine what the parents are going through.
Prayers headed their way.
I've thought about this a good amount today, watched for her in the airport. I just can't imagine what it would be like as a parent
As the father of 2 daughters about her age, I can't imagine what they're going through...
my own daughters walk to and from school (2/10ths of a mile) and we live less than 10 minutes from there
Did they show a picture of her so everyone knows who to look out for?
SideShow Bob
10-07-2012, 19:02
Did they show a picture of her so everyone knows who to look out for?
There is a close up of the missing poster in the news link.
http://www.9news.com/images/640/360/2/assetpool/photogallery/293121/ridgeway3.jpg
StagLefty
10-07-2012, 19:10
God Bless 800 volunteers looking for her on Saturday. Folks were out posting her pic today,
It kills me how sick people are I would like to get ahold of the ass hole myself. I don't have kids yet but I have a little brother and if something like this ever happened to him I don't care what it would take to find him but I would do it.
I just heard a news report that her backpack was found in Superior.
http://kdvr.com/2012/10/07/search-for-ridgeway-moves-to-superior/
WESTMINSTER, Colo. – The search for missing 10-year-old Jessica Ridgeway has moved to Superior this afternoon, according to the Westminster Police Department.
I feel for the family... I could only imagine what I would feel, what I would do to the person/people that did this, if I were in the parents shoes....... A quick death for something like this is not justice, that's all I have to say about that.
jackthewall81
10-07-2012, 23:22
I just heard a news report that her backpack was found in Superior.
http://kdvr.com/2012/10/07/search-for-ridgeway-moves-to-superior/
What a weird way to contact the police. Email? Are you kidding me?
speedysst
10-07-2012, 23:59
What a weird way to contact the police. Email? Are you kidding me?
Not only that but it was a members only type email site. Something smells fishy here...
lead_magnet
10-08-2012, 01:03
Not only that but it was a members only type email site. Something smells fishy here...
No kidding. That has wierdo written all over it.
how far was the bookbag found from where she was abducted?
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-08-2012, 08:28
how far was the bookbag found from where she was abducted?
4.6 miles.
colorider
10-08-2012, 12:46
The news I watched last night said a teenage girl is the one who sent the email. Said she was not aware of the missing child.
They are searching by the Jeffco Airport and south towards Standley Lake. I just drove through there. This makes me sad and angry.
Diesel24
10-08-2012, 13:27
Yeah hearing about this stuff makes me want to "strap up" and go find the fucker myself. Really do hope they find her.
SideShow Bob
10-08-2012, 13:33
Really do hope they find her.
Alive and unharmed.......
Diesel24
10-08-2012, 13:47
Alive and unharmed.......
Absolutely!
crashdown
10-08-2012, 14:16
Lots of cops walking down 36 between Boulder and Broomfield.
Just sick that they are looking in ditches off a hwy for a missing kid.....sick.
theGinsue
10-08-2012, 22:40
Any updates on this?
nothing, saw it on the news in 3 different states today, so hopefully it gets big enough she is found okay quickly.
anaphylaxis
10-08-2012, 22:50
Unfortunately not according to Westminster PD's twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/WestminsterPD
This particular issue got me thinking about something that is sometimes done in cases like this:
If you lived within a half mile of where this young girl disappeared, and the police knocked on your door and asked if they could check inside your home for the girl, what would you say?
I am not looking to start an argument. I'm just trying to get some discussion on where people believe they stand on this type of situation. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to make their own choices. I believe that only you can make the correct decision for you.
I pray for this young girl, her family, and friends. I also pray for all of those who are diligently looking for her.
Be safe.
This particular issue got me thinking about something that is sometimes done in cases like this:
If you lived within a half mile of where this young girl disappeared, and the police knocked on your door and asked if they could check inside your home for the girl, what would you say?
I am not looking to start an argument. I'm just trying to get some discussion on where people believe they stand on this type of situation. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to make their own choices. I believe that only you can make the correct decision for you.
I pray for this young girl, her family, and friends. I also pray for all of those who are diligently looking for her.
Be safe.
I've been thinking about this same thing. I just came back into town the day that this happened, and if it hadn't of been for the Amber Alert interrupting a movie we were watching, and for this website, I wouldn't have known about it. If the police showed up to my place and just told me they needed to search my house, they would have been talking to my closed door. However, had they explained the situation, and explained that they were searching all the houses, and it appeared they were, then I would oblige.
I've been thinking about this same thing. I just came back into town the day that this happened, and if it hadn't of been for the Amber Alert interrupting a movie we were watching, and for this website, I wouldn't have known about it. If the police showed up to my place and just told me they needed to search my house, they would have been talking to my closed door. However, had they explained the situation, and explained that they were searching all the houses, and it appeared they were, then I would oblige.
I'm torn on this....then they know what is in your home, maybe they see something potentially illegal, or see guns laying around, or what about the people with medical MMJ?
I have nothing to hide, but I also don't need "the man" knocking on my door wanting to look around every time something bad happens. I am very sympathetic to this situation, especially as a parent. Pretty hard to say if I would oblige or not unless I was actually asked.
I'm not worried about anyone finding anything either, and honestly, if it is important enough for them to be going door to door to search, I think they would remain professional and stick to their current priority. It is just the idea of someone pounding on my door and demanding to search my house, or my trunk if I was driving. I can't get too upset though, because it did not happen to me. Plus, my neighbor is practically in bed with the police, so realistically, I'd have plenty of fair warning about what was going on.
This particular issue got me thinking about something that is sometimes done in cases like this:
If you lived within a half mile of where this young girl disappeared, and the police knocked on your door and asked if they could check inside your home for the girl, what would you say?
I am not looking to start an argument. I'm just trying to get some discussion on where people believe they stand on this type of situation. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to make their own choices. I believe that only you can make the correct decision for you.
I pray for this young girl, her family, and friends. I also pray for all of those who are diligently looking for her.
Be safe.
I have no issues with them searching my home. I have nothing to hide and if it helps them rule out certain areas in their search I am willing to do what I can to help. I have nothing illegal sitting out in the open wink wink j/k.
Whistler
10-09-2012, 06:56
While I agree I'd like to aid in the search not sure I'd go along with setting precedent though I'd happily volunteer to pull the trigger when they catch him. You can come up with reasons to permit it no "reasonable person would argue with" and "for the greater good" but it stills treads on the 4th. Today it's a great reason, a missing child but tomorrow the "greater good" may be ice cream & bacon. I think they'd just have to take my word for it or come back with a warrant, you know, per the law.
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" is a statement that chills my bones every time I hear it.
DavieD55
10-09-2012, 07:02
While I agree I'd like to aid in the search not sure I'd go along with setting precedent though I'd happily volunteer to pull the trigger when they catch him. You can come up with reasons to permit it no "reasonable person would argue with" and "for the greater good" but it stills treads on the 4th. Today it's a great reason, a missing child but tomorrow the "greater good" may be ice cream & bacon. I think they'd just have to take my word for it or come back with a warrant, you know, per the law.
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" is a statement that chills my bones every time I hear it.
Exactly! +1
While I agree I'd like to aid in the search not sure I'd go along with setting precedent though I'd happily volunteer to pull the trigger when they catch him. You can come up with reasons to permit it no "reasonable person would argue with" and "for the greater good" but it stills treads on the 4th. Today it's a great reason, a missing child but tomorrow the "greater good" may be ice cream & bacon. I think they'd just have to take my word for it or come back with a warrant, you know, per the law.
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" is a statement that chills my bones every time I hear it.
[Beer][Beer]
not searching my house or car without a warrent
brokenscout
10-09-2012, 07:34
While I agree I'd like to aid in the search not sure I'd go along with setting precedent though I'd happily volunteer to pull the trigger when they catch him. You can come up with reasons to permit it no "reasonable person would argue with" and "for the greater good" but it stills treads on the 4th. Today it's a great reason, a missing child but tomorrow the "greater good" may be ice cream & bacon. I think they'd just have to take my word for it or come back with a warrant, you know, per the law.
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" is a statement that chills my bones every time I hear it.
[Beer]
While I agree I'd like to aid in the search not sure I'd go along with setting precedent though I'd happily volunteer to pull the trigger when they catch him. You can come up with reasons to permit it no "reasonable person would argue with" and "for the greater good" but it stills treads on the 4th. Today it's a great reason, a missing child but tomorrow the "greater good" may be ice cream & bacon. I think they'd just have to take my word for it or come back with a warrant, you know, per the law.
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" is a statement that chills my bones every time I hear it.
Exactly! +1
[Beer][Beer]
not searching my house or car without a warrent
I wouldn't let them search my house/cars/property without a warrant.
I saw the big JeffCo Sherriff's truck and a dive team truck headed for Standley Lake a little after 9am today.
This sucks.
I sure hope they find her alive, just another sad story for Colorado.
UPDATE!
Report of girl resembling Jessica Ridgeway spotted in Maine
A resident reported seeing a girl who resembled the missing 10-year-old Westminster girl Jessica Ridgeway in Maine on Sunday, according to reports. After police received that tip, authorities filed a statewide alert for the vehicle described by the woman.
Sgt. Alan Grinnell with the Dexter, Maine Police told 9NEWS the woman told police she saw the girl resembling Ridgeway Sunday afternoon on Spring Street in Dexter - a small town northwest of Bangor in central Maine.
The witness did not report the sighting to police until Tuesday at 10 a.m. because she did not see the Amber Alert for Jessica on her computer until Tuesday morning, Grinell told 9NEWS Crime and Justice Reporter Anastasiya Bolton.
The woman, who Grinnell will not identify, described the car the girl was seen in as a light-blue Buick station wagon - a mid 1990s model - with Colorado plates. She did not get the plate number.
The car had roof racks and five spoke wheels, Grinnell says.
Grinnell told 9NEWS there is a BOLO for this car in the state of Maine and the police department has passed along this information to Westminster Police.
9NEWS reached out to Westminster Police Wednesday morning asking about this report. Westminster Police said they are taking this tip as seriously as every other tip they receive, and they are talking to police in Maine, however they were surprised this particular tip took off like it did because they have received tips from other parts of the country as well.
Jessica has been missing since Friday morning when she didn't make it to school. Fifteen local, state and federal agencies are looking for the 10-year-old.
http://www.9news.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=293806
Maybe- just maybe she's in Maine? It does add up, Colorado Plates, the time frame (Fri-Sun, adequate time to get from Denver to Maine)... I hope this has a happy ending!
Diesel24
10-10-2012, 10:39
UPDATE!
Report of girl resembling Jessica Ridgeway spotted in Maine
A resident reported seeing a girl who resembled the missing 10-year-old Westminster girl Jessica Ridgeway in Maine on Sunday, according to reports. After police received that tip, authorities filed a statewide alert for the vehicle described by the woman.
Sgt. Alan Grinnell with the Dexter, Maine Police told 9NEWS the woman told police she saw the girl resembling Ridgeway Sunday afternoon on Spring Street in Dexter - a small town northwest of Bangor in central Maine.
The witness did not report the sighting to police until Tuesday at 10 a.m. because she did not see the Amber Alert for Jessica on her computer until Tuesday morning, Grinell told 9NEWS Crime and Justice Reporter Anastasiya Bolton.
The woman, who Grinnell will not identify, described the car the girl was seen in as a light-blue Buick station wagon - a mid 1990s model - with Colorado plates. She did not get the plate number.
The car had roof racks and five spoke wheels, Grinnell says.
Grinnell told 9NEWS there is a BOLO for this car in the state of Maine and the police department has passed along this information to Westminster Police.
9NEWS reached out to Westminster Police Wednesday morning asking about this report. Westminster Police said they are taking this tip as seriously as every other tip they receive, and they are talking to police in Maine, however they were surprised this particular tip took off like it did because they have received tips from other parts of the country as well.
Jessica has been missing since Friday morning when she didn't make it to school. Fifteen local, state and federal agencies are looking for the 10-year-old.
http://www.9news.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=293806
Maybe- just maybe she's in Maine? It does add up, Colorado Plates, the time frame (Fri-Sun, adequate time to get from Denver to Maine)... I hope this has a happy ending!
Lets hope this does pan out to be her! Go go go!
DD977GM2
10-10-2012, 11:31
UPDATE!
Report of girl resembling Jessica Ridgeway spotted in Maine
A resident reported seeing a girl who resembled the missing 10-year-old Westminster girl Jessica Ridgeway in Maine on Sunday, according to reports. After police received that tip, authorities filed a statewide alert for the vehicle described by the woman.
Sgt. Alan Grinnell with the Dexter, Maine Police told 9NEWS the woman told police she saw the girl resembling Ridgeway Sunday afternoon on Spring Street in Dexter - a small town northwest of Bangor in central Maine.
The witness did not report the sighting to police until Tuesday at 10 a.m. because she did not see the Amber Alert for Jessica on her computer until Tuesday morning, Grinell told 9NEWS Crime and Justice Reporter Anastasiya Bolton.
The woman, who Grinnell will not identify, described the car the girl was seen in as a light-blue Buick station wagon - a mid 1990s model - with Colorado plates. She did not get the plate number.
The car had roof racks and five spoke wheels, Grinnell says.
Grinnell told 9NEWS there is a BOLO for this car in the state of Maine and the police department has passed along this information to Westminster Police.
9NEWS reached out to Westminster Police Wednesday morning asking about this report. Westminster Police said they are taking this tip as seriously as every other tip they receive, and they are talking to police in Maine, however they were surprised this particular tip took off like it did because they have received tips from other parts of the country as well.
Jessica has been missing since Friday morning when she didn't make it to school. Fifteen local, state and federal agencies are looking for the 10-year-old.
http://www.9news.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=293806
Maybe- just maybe she's in Maine? It does add up, Colorado Plates, the time frame (Fri-Sun, adequate time to get from Denver to Maine)... I hope this has a happy ending!
I fucking hope that she is still alive and found most Ricky Tick
lead_magnet
10-10-2012, 11:42
Thats too close to Canada, for comfort, but hopefully she is still alive.
^ Agreed. They need to find that shitty blue car pronto and either put this tip to rest or find her.
A cute 10 year old girl who walks alone for 3 blocks every day, taking the same route. Somebody definitely nabbed her.
In my day, walking 3 blocks, or a 1/2 mile was relatively safe - not in today's day & age. I pray they find her alive & safe, but, honestly, I wouldn't count on it. I just hope other parents wake up to the fact of the type of world we now live in. There we monsters out there, and most of them look just like you and me.This is what I do not understand. Why do people let their kids walk alone anymore? I know that there is Monsters out there that prey on children, this is why I never let my kids out of my sight. Do not get me wrong I hope she is okay, but I am with theGinsue on this and fear it is to late. I think I might be a little to protective of my children, which cuts down on some of their fun. The way I look at it is better safe then sorry, I love my kids more than life it's self and could not imagine what the parents are going through. We pray for her every night when we say our prayers. After the girl in Greeley was taken and then found dead, you would think parents would think twice about letting their kids walk alone. You would also think that the punishment for this kind of crime should be more severe. I personally think that any crime committed against a child should be punished by death, no matter what. I think maybe if the punishment was more than a couple years in prison, maybe these sick low lifes would think twice before attacking an innocent child.
jackthewall81
10-10-2012, 13:45
It has been way to long. I fear the worst.
Tinelement
10-10-2012, 13:52
It has been way to long. I fear the worst.
Have to agree.
But you never know!
Just keep the good ju-ju flowing.
This is what I do not understand. Why do people let their kids walk alone anymore? I know that there is Monsters out there that prey on children, this is why I never let my kids out of my sight. Do not get me wrong I hope she is okay, but I am with theGinsue on this and fear it is to late. I think I might be a little to protective of my children, which cuts down on some of their fun. The way I look at it is better safe then sorry, I love my kids more than life it's self and could not imagine what the parents are going through. We pray for her every night when we say our prayers. After the girl in Greeley was taken and then found dead, you would think parents would think twice about letting their kids walk alone. You would also think that the punishment for this kind of crime should be more severe. I personally think that any crime committed against a child should be punished by death, no matter what. I think maybe if the punishment was more than a couple years in prison, maybe these sick low lifes would think twice before attacking an innocent child.
Amen... You think it's gotten bad now- I'm so worried about my kids (who have yet to even be conceived!), how much worse is it going to get? I remember as a kid we would roam the neighborhood, riding our bikes all over, going on adventures and what have you. Hell, I remember when we were young, my brother, my best friend, and I would go on "missions" where we'd dress up in fatigues, grab toy guns, sometimes camo our faces, and sneak our way from my mom's house under the cover of darkness onto the nearby golfcourse to a "set location" and "detonate" explosives... (basically just go to a gazebo just off one of the fairways, drop off a rock and head back home). Looking back on those days, had we got caught it would just be kids being kids, but now, people would lose their shit! I look at it as I wouldn't let my kids leave the house without a gps transmitter, cell phone, and a number of self defense classes. Yes, the world is getting that bad these days. [Bang]
DD977GM2
10-10-2012, 14:49
Amen... You think it's gotten bad now- I'm so worried about my kids (who have yet to even be conceived!), how much worse is it going to get? I remember as a kid we would roam the neighborhood, riding our bikes all over, going on adventures and what have you. Hell, I remember when we were young, my brother, my best friend, and I would go on "missions" where we'd dress up in fatigues, grab toy guns, sometimes camo our faces, and sneak our way from my mom's house under the cover of darkness onto the nearby golfcourse to a "set location" and "detonate" explosives... (basically just go to a gazebo just off one of the fairways, drop off a rock and head back home). Looking back on those days, had we got caught it would just be kids being kids, but now, people would lose their shit! I look at it as I wouldn't let my kids leave the house without a gps transmitter, cell phone, and a number of self defense classes. Yes, the world is getting that bad these days. [Bang]
You know what, maybe the world is getting worse or the fact social media and the news reporting is more prominent then it was 20 years ago???
I worry about my 5 kids all the time and god forbid the sumbitch who thinks they will get away with harming my kids, but I let my kids live their lives.
Yes I put restrictions on them and I also make them check in in stages when they are out doing something, but I do the same things my folks did with me.
Instead of finding a pay phone, their cellphones are easier to call and let me know they got to some point safely.
I think your overthinking things. Bad shit happens all the time along with great things.
Be vigilent, and teach your kids about situational awareness and they will be just fine.
You know what, maybe the world is getting worse or the fact social media and the news reporting is more prominent then it was 20 years ago???
I worry about my 5 kids all the time and god forbid the sumbitch who thinks they will get away with harming my kids, but I let my kids live their lives.
Yes I put restrictions on them and I also make them check in in stages when they are out doing something, but I do the same things my folks did with me.
Instead of finding a pay phone, their cellphones are easier to call and let me know they got to some point safely.
I think your overthinking things. Bad shit happens all the time along with great things.
Be vigilent, and teach your kids about situational awareness and they will be just fine.
True... It's akin to everyone saying "wow, there sure are a lot of natural disasters these days." Are there really more, or is our more connected world able to report them easier and better now a days as compared to 100 years ago? You do make a good point. At what point do we draw the line between letting kids be kids and keeping them too safe...? The standards are getting out of hand these days. When I was young I rarely rode my bike without a helmet, now if someone lets their kid ride without a helmet they'll be reported to child services. [Bang]
And, my co-worker (yes the one I have complained about) just informed me that there was an attempted child abduction at her daughter's school in Lakewood- Kendrick Lake Elementary. Hold your kids close... Remain Vigilant.
Its beyond sad. Ive often wondered for a crime as repugnant as this that seems to be growing in frequency if perhaps a nationwide task force would be appropriate to try to jack these predators. Teach your kids to escape grips through the thumb and say no dont let them be led away.
KevDen2005
10-10-2012, 18:45
And, my co-worker (yes the one I have complained about) just informed me that there was an attempted child abduction at her daughter's school in Lakewood- Kendrick Lake Elementary. Hold your kids close... Remain Vigilant.
I am not claiming this is a hoax at all...
However, the majority of claims of possible child abduction or enticement or false or very exaggerated. Kids make up stories all the time...but the worst part is watching the adults fabricate the story into something it completely isn't.
body has been found, unknown if its her but it don't sound good hopefully it is not.
Body Found In Arvada, Unknown If It's Jessica Ridgeway's
Westminster police say a body was discovered near Pattridge Park Open Space in Arvada Wednesday. They are unsure if it's Jessica Ridgeway.
They say the body still needs to be identified, but felt this was a big enough development to hold a news conference Wednesday night.
Ridgeway disappeared Friday morning on her way to school in Westminster. Since then the FBI and other investigators have been trying to find her. They've received tips from several states including Maine and Wyoming.
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Body-Found-In-Arvada-Unknown-If-Its-Jessica-Ridgeways-173619481.html
KevDen2005
10-10-2012, 19:46
well that just made my heart drop. I really hope it isn't her. I guess I should also point out that I think it is sad and horrible no matter who it is.
well that just made my heart drop. I really hope it isn't her. I guess I should also point out that I think it is sad and horrible no matter who it is.
I had the same feeling when the station interrupted with breaking news.
Man just sad to hear. Breaks my heart too.
body has been found, unknown if its her but it don't sound good hopefully it is not.
Body Found In Arvada, Unknown If It's Jessica Ridgeway's
Westminster police say a body was discovered near Pattridge Park Open Space in Arvada Wednesday. They are unsure if it's Jessica Ridgeway.
They say the body still needs to be identified, but felt this was a big enough development to hold a news conference Wednesday night.
Ridgeway disappeared Friday morning on her way to school in Westminster. Since then the FBI and other investigators have been trying to find her. They've received tips from several states including Maine and Wyoming.
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Body-Found-In-Arvada-Unknown-If-Its-Jessica-Ridgeways-173619481.html
Just saw this myself. I hope it isn't her, either way someone is dead and it's no good. If it is her I hope they catch the MF and string him up by the balls and use him as a Pinata. That is if it was a he, if it was a her string her up by the Ta Ta's and use her as a Mushroom Stamp Pad!
My fear is that this was the work of a serial killer.
RCCrawler
10-10-2012, 20:31
It's gotta be her, I'd think if it was clear that it wasn't her they would say that right off the bat. My guess is they are just saying they can't confirm so they have time to notify everyone.
Sad situation all around.
RCCrawler
10-10-2012, 20:31
My fear is that this was the work of a serial killer.
Haven't heard of any other people being killed recently, did I miss something?
Where is Pattridge open space?
KevDen2005
10-10-2012, 20:39
My fear is that this was the work of a serial killer.
Are you thinking someone who has struck before or is just starting? Seriously, I am curious as to why you suggest this.
RCCrawler
10-10-2012, 20:40
Where is Pattridge open space?
Dunno, I've been looking on google maps and can't find it anywhere.
well that just made my heart drop. I really hope it isn't her. I guess I should also point out that I think it is sad and horrible no matter who it is.
Chokes you up, the world is f***** up
This sucks! After hearing before she went missing that an Arvada school notified all schools that someone was trying to lure children into their cars there is some sick shit out there that won't stop until he gets what he wants. Makes me so mad and I cannot even begin to think what the family is going through at this exact moment.
My god I hope its not her, the POS who did this needs to be strung up in public and castrated.
RCCrawler
10-10-2012, 20:47
Where is Pattridge open space?
Found it, it's on 82nd just east of Hwy 93.
Found it, it's on 82nd just east of Hwy 93.
Yeah, really crazy. This is where we take our dogs for walks all the time. Hard to believe they found a body there, no matter if it's her or not.
My god I hope its not her, the POS who did this needs to be strung up in public and castrated.
And feed his own "junk"
Haven't heard of any other people being killed recently, did I miss something?
Are you thinking someone who has struck before or is just starting? Seriously, I am curious as to why you suggest this.
No, I'm just being super paranoid because I live in the area and I have a young child. This kind of stuff used to just be stuff you hear about in the news and then forget, but knowing that I have a school aged kid that couldn't fight off an adult really, really has set me on edge lately. Sorry for displaying my concerns the way that I did. I just brought it up to say that I am afraid of something like that. Zero evidence of a serial killer.
KevDen2005
10-10-2012, 21:14
No, I'm just being super paranoid because I live in the area and I have a young child. This kind of stuff used to just be stuff you hear about in the news and then forget, but knowing that I have a school aged kid that couldn't fight off an adult really, really has set me on edge lately. Sorry for displaying my concerns the way that I did. I just brought it up to say that I am afraid of something like that. Zero evidence of a serial killer.
No worries man. I feel for ya. I just was worried I missed something. Plus, I don't think we should ever discount an idea during this type of thing. People suck, it's up to the few to do the right thing to protect our loved ones and the unknowing masses.
Lex_Luthor
10-10-2012, 21:27
Horrible. I've been praying for her safe return. If it's confirmed to be her, I'll be very sad.
One of my kung fu students fought off an attempted kidnapping only a couple months ago. It really did happen too. Someone tried to get her, her brother, and their neighborhood friend to follow him to his car. Then they saw the same person walking through the neighborhood again a couple days later. I've been specifically working with the kids for anti-kidnapping drills and stuff. They know how serious this is, and they're getting VERY tough. Unfortunately, too many martial arts schools these days don't teach quality stuff. We teach our kids how to defend themselves against bigger kids and adults ALWAYS.
Helicopters have been flying over there for the past 1/2 hour. Not really sure what they're going to see at night.
<Edit> Nevermind, it's the media helicopters.
bside303
10-10-2012, 21:43
God, i hope that's not her body they found.
very sad to hear this, I am very fearful this is her and they are just making 100% sure, notifying the family and everything. Just makes me sick thinking about this
And feed his own "junk"I second this, make him choke to death on it.
JM Ver. 2.0
10-10-2012, 22:18
No, I'm just being super paranoid because I live in the area and I have a young child. This kind of stuff used to just be stuff you hear about in the news and then forget, but knowing that I have a school aged kid that couldn't fight off an adult really, really has set me on edge lately. Sorry for displaying my concerns the way that I did. I just brought it up to say that I am afraid of something like that. Zero evidence of a serial killer.
(Mod edit-keep your phone numbers to PM's unless your a business) Text me tomorrow some time. We should talk.
jackthewall81
10-10-2012, 22:27
(PM phone numbers) Text me tomorrow some time. We should talk.
? Why didn't you pm him.
RCCrawler
10-10-2012, 22:38
Helicopters have been flying over there for the past 1/2 hour. Not really sure what they're going to see at night.
<Edit> Nevermind, it's the media helicopters.
9news just said they had their helicopter hovering with the flood light on to help the PD.
Edit: just found this.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/665256_10151203342426600_1156312673_o.jpg
BPTactical
10-10-2012, 23:01
My money says we know who it is.
My money also says it has been there since 8 hours or so since abducted.
PD had reason to search that area.
RIP Little one. An Angel got its wings.
May the one who perpitrated this rot in hell.
All I can say is fuck. So mad right now.
RCCrawler
10-10-2012, 23:13
PD had reason to search that area.
Yea I was thinking about that as well. I wonder where they got the tip to search that area.
theGinsue
10-10-2012, 23:27
We all know it's her.
WARNING: What I'm about to discuss is very unsettling. Read at own risk.
I'm usually the first to attribute bad things to the evil in the hearts of mankind, but......
I know she was 10 and not 4, but I'm left to wonder if she didn't wander off on her own for some reason ~ ?bad situation at home?. Looking at the map it's not impossible she made it to the Open Space (via a route by where she left her water bottle) on her own. It is possible that she got herself to the Open Space, afraid to go home and died due to exposure.
Also possible, someone abducted her, then left her, alive, at the Open Space late at night, she didn't know where she was, stayed put, and died of exposure.
I'd be very interested in hearing the official cause of death.
Another young angel released to fly. I just pray she didn't suffer.
I don't know Ginsue, that is at least a 10 mile walk for her.
They think body found might be hers... That means if it isn't, it is some other little girl, and one still missing. Situation is totaly fucked. [Bang]
RCCrawler
10-11-2012, 00:31
They think body found might be hers... That means if it isn't, it is some other little girl, and one still missing. Situation is totaly fucked. [Bang]
Where'd you hear that?
Where'd you hear that?
Why would they even mention her if the body wasn't close in age and sex? If it were the body of an old woman, man or any other age, they would have mentioned it. Instead, they just tried to keep everyones hopes up for now. If it didn't have a chance of being a little girl, they would have said it.
RCCrawler
10-11-2012, 00:44
I totally understand that, and even said that in this thread earlier. Your post just made it seem like they finally announced it.
I totally understand that, and even said that in this thread earlier. Your post just made it seem like they finally announced it.
Oh, ya, you're right... No matter the outcome, either one dead, or two... All is screwed.
GilpinGuy
10-11-2012, 01:04
[Angel3]
I'm still hoping for the best.
My little girl is coming out in about a week. Any f-er that ever f's with her will have a seriously f'n bad day.
RCCrawler
10-11-2012, 06:49
So they said they still can't confirm the body is her, and they said they are going to continue the search for her in their original spots in Westminster.
The media says this is good news, I don't see it that way. If they are continuing their search elsewhere leads us to believe this body isn't her, which means we have another victim.
I just heard 2 reports on KHOW that stated they found her body at Pattridge Park which is southwest of her home.
The JeffCo PIO just gave the most meaningless report I've heard.
This is awful, until something official comes out we're just jumping to conclusions.
DavieD55
10-11-2012, 07:23
I just heard 2 reports on KHOW that stated they found her body at Pattridge Park which is southwest of her home.
The JeffCo PIO just gave the most meaningless report I've heard.
This is awful, until something official comes out we're just jumping to conclusions.
I just heard that too. I was thinking the same thing.
KevDen2005
10-11-2012, 07:47
I just heard that too. I was thinking the same thing.
He's just doing what he's been told to do. It's better than just cancelling the press conference.
Leaving for work this morning I noticed that at 100th and Garland there was one of those speed trap vans sitting on the sidewalk and taking pictures of everyone leaving. As I circled around the neighborhood in the direction I go towards works I counted 3 more vans at different exits from the neighborhood. Hmmmm!
I have no doubt it must be her. Either way if it's not like said we have another body. I would think at this point there has to be some way of identifying if it's her or not and being able to confirm it. I think the Douchebag got scared and dumped the body last night as soon as it got dark. If they are continuing their search and can't confirm if it's her or not why are so many agents FBI and Police, 120 I hear at the crime scene instead of continuing the search? I am not saying if this body isn't her that it's less important it's just a curious question.
DavieD55
10-11-2012, 08:03
He's just doing what he's been told to do. It's better than just cancelling the press conference.
I know. It was still pointless.
Now the news reports say "no confirmation", so they were speculating before.
The cynic in me says that 9News wants the scoop for the advertising revenue so they told the PIO to append his report. Remember, this is the media we're talking about and they don't give a fuck about anything unless it meets their money grubbing or Marxist agenda.
I think the Douchebag got scared and dumped the body last night as soon as it got dark. If they are continuing their search and can't confirm if it's her or not why are so many agents FBI and Police, 120 I hear at the crime scene instead of continuing the search? I am not saying if this body isn't her that it's less important it's just a curious question.
The FBI & police were there just after noon yesterday, so it probably happened the night before last. I think they're starting the criminal investigation and just can't say anything right now. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it's her.
DavieD55
10-11-2012, 08:20
The FBI & police were there just after noon yesterday, so it probably happened the night before last. I think they're starting the criminal investigation and just can't say anything right now. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it's her.
I hate to say it but i think you're probably right.
As f**ked up as this is going to sound, part of me hopes it is her. They wouldn't have announced the fact that they found a body if it wasn't that of a young girl. If it isn't Jessica then that means there could be more than one victim out there which would mean this isn't an isolated case.
Just got this in email
http://kdvr.com/2012/10/11/n-h-police-abandoned-car-may-be-connected-to-jessica-ridgeway-search/
Just got this in email
http://kdvr.com/2012/10/11/n-h-police-abandoned-car-may-be-connected-to-jessica-ridgeway-search/
I have some pretty big doubts about this one. Maybe the car broke down, lots of people have daughters, and lots of people also travel. Seems a lot more likely a body discovered only a few miles from the home of Jessica is her instead of a random car with no people around it and a random woman calling to say she saw a little girl in the car
BushMasterBoy
10-11-2012, 09:54
I wonder if this is related to the Jonbenet Ramsey case. She was a little girl murdered in Boulder. Hopefully somebody saw something that will lead to this crime being solved.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JonBen%C3%A9t_Ramsey
BPTactical
10-11-2012, 10:29
I am still very curious as to why LE started the search outside of the general area of her home in the general direction she was found. Almost immediately they were searching near Hwy 93/72 area.
What compelled them to go that direction?
It would be interesting to know.
I think we can be assured it is her by what is not being said. Had it been a John/Jane Doe adult one would think they would have made it clear it was NOT her.
Sometimes what is not said is more powerful than what is said.
It seemed pretty clear in the overhead views from last night that it was not an adult.
RIP Little One.
I don't know Ginsue, that is at least a 10 mile walk for her.
When I was 12 I used to walk 7 miles a day home from school... Granted I grew up here in the mountains and all that, but still, 10 miles is not impossible for a young child- but then again, looking at her mother, she may not have been the most active and fit child on Earth.
Now, if what Ginsue said, she walked to avoid a sh*tty situation at home, and got lost or whatever and died of exposure- she was only 6 miles south of where she lived... Perhaps, and I'm just spitballing here (because this has happened to me) the backpack was found somewhere, the person finding it wasn't exactly an honest person, sifted through it for anything of value and ditched it up north in the opposite direction the girl was traveling.
I hope it has a happy ending, but like the rest of us, I seriously doubt it. And the connection to the Buick station wagon, maybe there is... that would be great if this ends in that direction and she's alive.
sbouslog
10-11-2012, 11:16
I wonder if this is related to the Jonbenet Ramsey case. She was a little girl murdered in Boulder. Hopefully somebody saw something that will lead to this crime being solved.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JonBen%C3%A9t_Ramsey
Everyone knows that it was her parents...
Thats like saying that O.J. didnt do it.
BushMasterBoy
10-11-2012, 11:18
I am still very curious as to why LE started the search outside of the general area of her home in the general direction she was found. Almost immediately they were searching near Hwy 93/72 area.
What compelled them to go that direction?
I think the general trend in homicide cases along the Front Range is to dump the body in the mountains or away from populated areas. Anyways that seems to be the trend in homicide cases in Colorado Springs. Leaving the body in a highly populated area increases the chance of the killer being caught. So west of where the little girl lived, is where she was found for this reason. In other words, is was topography.
Sick pure and simple
http://kdvr.com/2012/10/11/police-body-discovered-in-jessica-ridgeway-search-not-intact/
Sick pure and simple
http://kdvr.com/2012/10/11/police-body-discovered-in-jessica-ridgeway-search-not-intact/
It is sickening, but we also have a ton of coyotes in the area which have probably been displaced from the construction of the housing development going in to the north of Pattridge open space.
lead_magnet
10-11-2012, 14:18
I know it's her, but I'm praying it isn't.
Need to confirm but this is a text from my wife about 2 min ago.
They believe it is her but the body has be dismembered.
Just found the link
http://www.9news.com/news/article/293899/339/Body-found-in-search-for-missing-girl-not-intact
RIP Little one may you be in peace with The Lord.
The fact that this sick MFer is still out there disturbs me. I have a 10 and 12 year old daughters and 4 year old son.
I have 13 nieces all in school and my mother in law runs a daycare by ketner lake. I want this Sick Bastard caught a strung up for public display.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-11-2012, 14:55
Thoughts and prayers for family, friends and persons working the case.
colorider
10-11-2012, 15:18
I want to find this person before the cops do. If I do , you are all invited over for a special neighborhood justice party.
2008f450
10-11-2012, 15:26
I want to find this person before the cops do. If I do , you are all invited over for a special neighborhood justice party.
I have some rusty, kinda dull razor blades i can bring to the party. Makes me sick to think there are people out there that can do that to a child.
I have same game shears for just such an occasion.
colorider
10-11-2012, 16:26
I live blocks from her house and have a 6yr old son. This whole damn thing is just gut churning. Can't a person can have such a black soul to do anything to a child.
anaphylaxis
10-11-2012, 16:42
I want to find this person before the cops do. If I do , you are all invited over for a special neighborhood justice party.
Aviation types will understand this one:
Take the individual who did this, string 'em up a foot or so off the ground under the covered tie-downs at KAPA at area Hotel. Take a Cessna 152 with a timed out engine, park it really close, mixture full rich, throttle slightly open, prime it a little, master on, mags to start, and release brakes... or hold the brakes if you want to draw it out a bit...
I live blocks from her house and have a 6yr old son. This whole damn thing is just gut churning. Can't a person can have such a black soul to do anything to a child.
For some sad, sick reason, the United States has one of the worst records for child homicide in the developed world. Now I firmly believe that atrocities are being committed in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere for other reasons (religion, war, famine).
But among the developed nations, our country has one of the highest, if not the highest rate of homicide (adults killing children) in the world.
RE: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf (https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf)
In 1999, about 1,800 juveniles (a rate of 2.6 per 100,000) were victims of homicide in the United States. This rate is substantially higher than that of any other developed country.
Discounting anti-gun rants about how guns are to blame (they are not), the information available points out that for some sick reason, we have an epidemic of sorts in our country - this sick crap is happening quite often.
Not all instances lead to death, but child abuse is a massive problem in American - one has to ask WHY?... The sexual predator crap is horrible with no limit to the perpetrators - priests, teachers, family members, the list goes on...
It makes no damn sense... What a sick world...
More: http://www.wnd.com/2000/03/1958/. Why is this happening in America - that's my question... Our children? SICK
Byte Stryke
10-11-2012, 17:17
I keep saying, you start killing them, 1 of 2 things happen:
1) they get the hint and stop preying on children
2) you run out of monsters
DD977GM2
10-11-2012, 17:25
Im furious right now. I have 5 kids..... 15,14,12,6 and 1.
I would suffer the most horrible painful torturous death for my kids and not
bat an eye.
The person or persons responsible for this deserve worse then anything I can imagine.
I can not fathom what would make a person think or act in anyway to
harm a child beyond a parent spanking their child to dicipline them and
teach them responsibility.
I want justice and old world justice for those responsible. [Rant1][Mad][Rant1][Mad][Rant1][Mad]
DD977GM2
10-11-2012, 17:26
I keep saying, you start killing them, 1 of 2 things happen:
1) they get the hint and stop preying on children
2) you run out of monsters
+1
I think they need to be publicly tortured and take 2 weeks or longer to kill them
Kill the offenders +1 on that one - I volunteer to do the wet work.
But my question is - what is the root freaking cause of this crap???
What is wrong with some people that would lead them to do this sort of crap???
How can we stop these monsters from being created in the first place???
Why is this happening in America at a higher rate than anywhere else? I pray it is just that we have a better way to track this information...
Either way, killing children is the absolute top sick crap...
BlasterBob
10-11-2012, 17:54
"AN EYE FOR AN EYE" The courts are just way too easy on these animals.
Catch the perp and he/she will probably spend years in jail waiting for a trial.
Where the hell is the justice now days?????????[Rant1]
I keep saying, you start killing them, 1 of 2 things happen:
1) they get the hint and stop preying on children
2) you run out of monsters
+1
I think they need to be publicly tortured and take 2 weeks or longer to kill themwow gabe your nicer than me , id be letting people have there fun for years on the sick sons of bitches
KevDen2005
10-11-2012, 18:06
Not sure if anyone has seen the recent stuff on the news, but the FBI is seriously considering this to be an experienced criminal that could easily strike again. I don't have kids and I am certainly sick. Please everyone watch your kids. I hope this guy is caught soon.
Yeah anyone who is going to dissect a child like that guy did is a sick son of a bitch and likely this ain't his first rodeo.
DD977GM2
10-11-2012, 18:16
wow gabe your nicer than me , id be letting people have there fun for years on the sick sons of bitches
After a while your body does not register pain. Thats why
sellersm
10-11-2012, 18:17
Our society is at the point where the criminal has more rights than the victims. Things like this are the result...
It's not really new, though. History shows that children have been the brunt of man's sins and societal/cultural/"religious" woes for a very long time. It's still very, very sad though.
What these sick folks forget is that God's the defender of these little ones. They'll get their just desserts.
I'd like to see the guy caught, put in a sealed tank filled with Black Widows, and Brown recluse spiders. watch him melt away...
Our society is at the point where the criminal has more rights than the victims. Things like this are the result...
It's not really new, though. History shows that children have been the brunt of man's sins and societal/cultural/"religious" woes for a very long time. It's still very, very sad though.
What these sick folks forget is that God's the defender of these little ones. They'll get their just desserts.
AMEN to that!
I'm thinking hung upside down by the balls with a torch set on fire in his butt and tons of people hitting him with spiked sticks like a Pinata.
The shit part is that the body parts they found isn't even all there. They were searching Standley Lake and other places looking for more. I think this Douche is toying around probably laughing the whole time![Rant1]
Tinelement
10-11-2012, 19:02
wow gabe your nicer than me , id be letting people have there fun for years on the sick sons of bitches
So like glueing their hands to the wall!??? Joking.......
Heard plenty of talk today, about like the thread.
Any real concrete evidence it's her yet????
SideShow Bob
10-11-2012, 19:09
So like glueing their hands to the wall!??? Joking.......
Heard plenty of talk today, about like the thread.
Any real concrete evidence it's her yet????
It doesn't matter if it is "her", it IS someone's child.......
^ Agreed. FBI is allegedly making claims that the person responsible for this is not an amateur criminal by any means and that we can expect to see actions similar to this in the future. Especially considering how little law enforcement seems to know about him/her and about the case. Yet another tragic event for our great state.
A high homicide rate of children, doesn't mean they are all like this. Every case of shaken baby syndrome, and regular ole child abuse is included in that figure.
KevDen2005
10-11-2012, 20:11
A high homicide rate of children, doesn't mean they are all like this. Every case of shaken baby syndrome, and regular ole child abuse is included in that figure.
I would be more curious on adult v. child crime...with actual homicides and not negligence or recklessness, what the statistic is in our country versus other countries.
After a while your body does not register pain. Thats why
ah but thats the fun part , not the physical pain but the mental . if someone were to go after my kids i could come up with some real torture that could take decades [Mad]
I would be more curious on adult v. child crime...with actual homicides and not negligence or recklessness, what the statistic is in our country versus other countries.
I had that information earlier in the thread:
http://www.wnd.com/2000/03/1958/ (http://www.wnd.com/2000/03/1958/) and https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf (https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf)
Just a sample...
This is homicide, not negligence or recklessness.
A high homicide rate of children, doesn't mean they are all like this. Every case of shaken baby syndrome, and regular ole child abuse is included in that figure.
Homicide committed against a child is still a homicide against a child - regardless of the act, it is horrible and the figures for the United States are extremely high...
I'm not sure there is a difference - the end result is still the same unfortunate and disgusting end result. Not sure why you'd say "regular old child abuse" either, nothing should be regular about child abuse.
Scanker19
10-11-2012, 21:19
What's considered the Developed world?
I thought they didn't segregate homicides by types.
This is all pretty fucked up; for anyone with children it’s impossible to ignore. We have an 8 year old girl and a 6 year old boy so this hits very close to home like it does with many here. I believe that the family of the victim should be able to decide the punishment with nothing being out of the question. Nothing should be considered cruel and unusual for people like this.
I’m sure most know this but just in case some don’t I think it’s worth repeating.
Colorado Statutes Regarding Deadly Physical Force and Carrying Concealed Weapons
18-1-704 Use Of Physical Force In Defense Of A Person
2. Deadly physical force may be used only if a person reasonably believes a lesser degree of force is inadequate and:
(c.) The other person is committing or reasonably appears about to commit kidnapping as defined in section 18-3-301 or 18-3-302, robbery as defined in section 18-4-301 or 18-4-302, sexual assault as set forth in section 18-3-402 or 18-3-403 as it existed prior to July 1, 2000, or assault as defined in sections 18-3-202 or 18-3-203.
I think a major part of the problem is the refusal to punish pedophiles and sex offenders in this country which has led to more sick bastards like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Allen_Davis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Allen_Davis).
I wish more of these people would just follow Dennis Miller’s advice –
“You got to promise me if you're watching me tonight and you ever get to the point in your life where you are so puzzled, confused, and frightened that you feel that the only way out is to abuse or molest a little kid, well then, you have got to kill yourself. You have to lean into the strike zone and take one for the team.”
This is all pretty fucked up; for anyone with children it’s impossible to ignore. We have an 8 year old girl and a 5 year old boy so this hits very close to home like it does with many here. I believe that the family of the victim should be able to decide the punishment with nothing being out of the question. Nothing should be consider cruel and unusual for people like this.
I’m sure most know this but just in case some don’t I think it’s worth repeating.
Colorado Statutes Regarding Deadly Physical Force and Carrying Concealed Weapons
18-1-704 Use Of Physical Force In Defense Of A Person
2. Deadly physical force may be used only if a person reasonably believes a lesser degree of force is inadequate and:
(c.) The other person is committing or reasonably appears about to commit kidnapping as defined in section 18-3-301 or 18-3-302, robbery as defined in section 18-4-301 or 18-4-302, sexual assault as set forth in section 18-3-402 or 18-3-403 as it existed prior to July 1, 2000, or assault as defined in sections 18-3-202 or 18-3-203.
I think a major part of the problem is the refusal to punish pedophiles and sex offenders in this country which has led to more sick bastards like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Allen_Davis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Allen_Davis).
I wish more of these people would just follow Dennis Miller’s advice –
“You got to promise me if you're watching me tonight and you ever get to the point in your life where you are so puzzled, confused, and frightened that you feel that the only way out is to abuse or molest a little kid, well then, you have got to kill yourself. You have to lean into the strike zone and take one for the team.”
It is absolutely sick that this happens, and I think Dennis Miller has nailed it right on the head. Problem is, these folks are not the type to have integrity...
I asked my kids tonight what they'd do if someone drove up and told them that my wife and I had been in a car accident and that they needed to come with them to the hospital. Both answered that they'd go with the person.... Stranger danger vs. social engineering - needless to say I gently educated them about the concerns of going with ANY stranger.
Our kids are being targeted by these sub-humans - we need to be proactive, but I just want to understand WHEN this became such a mess... Maybe it has always been this way - it is depressing for sure...
My mom's friend reminded me of something useful tonight. A code word that your kids know. If someone tries to pick them up for any reason if they don't know the word the kids run the other direction. She said her son who is now 21 still remembers his code word.
I think it's a great idea.
DD977GM2
10-11-2012, 21:59
My mom's friend reminded me of something useful tonight. A code word that your kids know. If someone tries to pick them up for any reason if they don't know the word the kids run the other direction. She said her son who is now 21 still remembers his code word.
I think it's a great idea.
We have that and even if the person thy know wants to pick them up they have to tell my kids the password. If they don't tell em they dont go with them and run away or to take responsible adult.
We have that and even if the person thy know wants to pick them up they have to tell my kids the password. If they don't tell em they dont go with them and run away or to take responsible adult.
Great idea, I will remember this.
unless I can get him his CCW once he goes to school of course.
DD977GM2
10-11-2012, 22:41
Great idea, I will remember this.
unless I can get him his CCW once he goes to school of course.
I adopted 2 of my kids and their sperm donor is not a great person and can and will manipulate his own parents
That is why we did that. They know that they are not to leave with anyone unless they tell them the secret word regardless.
I told the sperm donors dad there is no exception if it is not previously known
that he is picking them up for them to go with him. Any unannounced picking up must accompany a password.
He got pissed and I reminded him of how shitty his son really is and then he realized what my intentions are.
This even goes for my parents too and my wifes parents.
I trust everyone but the sperm donors parents, but we had to do this as a precaution.
Homicide committed against a child is still a homicide against a child - regardless of the act, it is horrible and the figures for the United States are extremely high...
I'm not sure there is a difference - the end result is still the same unfortunate and disgusting end result. Not sure why you'd say "regular old child abuse" either, nothing should be regular about child abuse.
I made the distinction because while all child deaths are horrible and regrettable, there is a serious difference between killing a child through negligence (abuse) and kidnapping one and dismembering him/her. One is premeditated. Everyone is talking about how horrible this event is, and it IS horrible. However, when you come into the thread with some shocking statistic about child deaths, it can lead people to believe that we live in a country full of mentally unstable serial killers. I don't think that is the case.
Code word = great idea! We're going to incorporate that one as well.
Also, can we stop with the bullshit idea that public execution is the answer to crime prevention? That is the same folly as placing more strict gun laws on the law abiding. Criminals don't care what is legal, or what may be the punishment for the crime. If fear of getting into trouble was all it took to prevent crimes, then there would be no crime.
colorider
10-11-2012, 22:52
While coming home tonight around 8, they had the bloodhounds working on my street. 100th and owens. My wife just lost it.
lead_magnet
10-12-2012, 02:57
My mom's friend reminded me of something useful tonight. A code word that your kids know. If someone tries to pick them up for any reason if they don't know the word the kids run the other direction. She said her son who is now 21 still remembers his code word.
I think it's a great idea.
I'm 28 ( I think) and I still remember the code word my dad and I had. We used it once too, he couldn't pick me up from school due to an emergency at work so he sent a co-worker. I wouldnt get in his car until he said "oh yeah, I'm supposed to tell you ******" then I knew my dad really sent him.
We also used that word for eachother as kind of a "head's up". The word was a nickname for me, for the example I'll use the word "numb-nuts". If we were in public and he said "Hey numb numb-nut's your shoe is untied" it meant "shut up, stay close and I'll explain later what was going on"
Gave me a good feeling of security, no to mention it kind-of strengthens a bond when you are the only two in on the secret word.
rockhound
10-12-2012, 06:44
this is truly sick,
there is nothing you can do to this whacko to make him pay enough for what he has done.
the code word is good and bad, if someone in your circle of trust is also a whacko they have your code word and now you are screwed cause the kids will go willingly.
most children are taken by a friend or family member, you have just given the keys to the house to the bad guys.
DD977GM2
10-12-2012, 09:20
this is truly sick,
there is nothing you can do to this whacko to make him pay enough for what he has done.
the code word is good and bad, if someone in your circle of trust is also a whacko they have your code word and now you are screwed cause the kids will go willingly.
most children are taken by a friend or family member, you have just given the keys to the house to the bad guys.
The grandparents do not know our code word. I have told people who are not related or do not know the grandparents the code word in the event of something terrible happens to me and the wife.
These people are the first contacted and then have information to contact the grandparents. The people who know the code words are not on the pick up lists for the schools so the school will not allow them to be taken by my kids.
My kids also know they are not to leave with anyonme who doesnt tell them the code words when an issue has arose.
This isnt a complex situation. If you talk to your kids and have them understand, its very simple.
They have cell phones and if they get a specific text from me or their mother or the deisgnated person, they know what to do.
I just have one question that my brother and I discussed this morning on the issue, and I can probably guess why, but WTF! Why didn't mom just be a good parent and drive her kid to school? OH MY GOD, you lose on what? 15min of sleep? BFD! For your kid's safety. But I'm guessing, from looking at her, she's a fairly lazy individual. [Bang]
I just have one question that my brother and I discussed this morning on the issue, and I can probably guess why, but WTF! Why didn't mom just be a good parent and drive her kid to school? OH MY GOD, you lose on what? 15min of sleep? BFD! For your kid's safety. But I'm guessing, from looking at her, she's a fairly lazy individual. [Bang]
15 minutes, is that all? What if your kid goes to school an hour after you have to be at work? I drop my kid off every morning about one mile from my house, and it adds at least ten minutes of travel time. One mile.
Lex_Luthor
10-12-2012, 09:55
I've also talked to my kids in class about using a code word with their parents. Love the idea, and when it's time for me to have my own children, I'll use the same thing. Anyone in the Westminster area, if you walk your dog(s) keep your eyes open and let them sniff. I've been strangely vigilant these past few days on my daily walks with the jerks.
I just have one question that my brother and I discussed this morning on the issue, and I can probably guess why, but WTF! Why didn't mom just be a good parent and drive her kid to school? OH MY GOD, you lose on what? 15min of sleep? BFD! For your kid's safety. But I'm guessing, from looking at her, she's a fairly lazy individual. [Bang]
Not really fair to question the mom at a time like this. She is doing enough of that herself. She worked nights if I remember correctly, she may not have been able to get home on time every day. It sounds like they had a plan she had to walk a short distance by herself, then meet the larger group and continue on to school.
You don't understand since you aren't a parent, but you would do anything for your kids, give your life, help them in any way you can, you make your life revolve around theirs. help them with homework, get them fed, bathed, make sure they have fun, get the right amount of sleep, get them to sporting events, maybe some of them even give their kid a job in adulthood.[Beer]
ChadAmberg
10-12-2012, 10:33
I just have one question that my brother and I discussed this morning on the issue, and I can probably guess why, but WTF! Why didn't mom just be a good parent and drive her kid to school? OH MY GOD, you lose on what? 15min of sleep? BFD! For your kid's safety. But I'm guessing, from looking at her, she's a fairly lazy individual. [Bang]
Oh no, why didn't the mom hire a body guard for her kid? Is an armored car enough, or will she have to go for an MRAP?
C'mon people. I walked a mile to school as a 1st grader every day. There is less crime now than then. Crimes like this will always happen. At a certain point precautions become too limiting. Like with concealed... do I need that 10th magazine in case the first 9 jam? Reasonable precautions yes... but the bubble wrap parenting has more downsides than upsides.
dwalker460
10-12-2012, 10:40
Agree with sniper7, and will add this-
When I walked to school as a kid it was about a 30 minute walk. I walked by the same houses every morning and the neighbors knew who I was and looking back on it I am positive that how my parents knew when I was late to school or was goofing off somewhere. Where are the neighbors here? I know when I am out in the morning I see the same kids walk to the bus stop, and I do notice if one of them isnt there. I would also notice if someone was to stop and try to pick up one of those kids. They arent my kids, and I am not spying on them but there is a routine in place, and I tend notice anything that is outside of routine. I dont know thier parents or even which houses they live in, but you can bet that if one of them screamed for help I would at the least call the cops and possibly even walk over to see whats going on.
I get that in our society today that we tend to be compartmentalized and may not even know the people on our block, but that has nothing to do with paying attention and even less to do with paying attention to the kids in our neighborhoods and whats going on. See a fight amonsgt them? Go yell and tell them to break it up or you will call thier parents or the police, see one fall of thier bike? Go see if they broke thier leg. Yeah I know, dont get involved, dont be seen as a nosy neighbor or busybody- well, do what you want but its because of that apathy that things like this happen over and over. I tend to think along the lines of- if it were my kid/wife/mom/grandmother, would I want someone to help them if they needed it? The answer tends to be yes.
However, when you come into the thread with some shocking statistic about child deaths, it can lead people to believe that we live in a country full of mentally unstable serial killers. I don't think that is the case.
I didn't make them up: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf (https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf)
Homicide is the only major cause of childhood deaths that has increased over the past three decades. In 1999, some 1,800 juveniles, or 3 per 100,000 of the U.S. juvenile population, were homicide victims—a rate
substantially higher than those of other developed countries. At the same time, murders of juveniles are infrequent in many areas of our country. In 1997, 85 percent of U.S. counties had no homicides of juveniles.
Not my opinion, the research I've done shows a major increase in child homicide within the United States. This was one source - there are many available. You will not find any research (pick your source) that says the opposite is true. You are of course entitled to your opinion about the data, I was simply pointing out the alarming trend and my concern.
The information can be looked at from several perspectives, but can anyone say that we've seen a decline in homicides against children under the age of 13 in Colorado in the last 30 years? Sure, reporting is better, and law enforcement is more involved these days, but the trend continues to curve upward.
Agree with sniper7, and will add this-
When I walked to school as a kid it was about a 30 minute walk. I walked by the same houses every morning and the neighbors knew who I was and looking back on it I am positive that how my parents knew when I was late to school or was goofing off somewhere. Where are the neighbors here? I know when I am out in the morning I see the same kids walk to the bus stop, and I do notice if one of them isnt there. I would also notice if someone was to stop and try to pick up one of those kids. They arent my kids, and I am not spying on them but there is a routine in place, and I tend notice anything that is outside of routine. I dont know thier parents or even which houses they live in, but you can bet that if one of them screamed for help I would at the least call the cops and possibly even walk over to see whats going on.
I get that in our society today that we tend to be compartmentalized and may not even know the people on our block, but that has nothing to do with paying attention and even less to do with paying attention to the kids in our neighborhoods and whats going on. See a fight amonsgt them? Go yell and tell them to break it up or you will call thier parents or the police, see one fall of thier bike? Go see if they broke thier leg. Yeah I know, dont get involved, dont be seen as a nosy neighbor or busybody- well, do what you want but its because of that apathy that things like this happen over and over. I tend to think along the lines of- if it were my kid/wife/mom/grandmother, would I want someone to help them if they needed it? The answer tends to be yes.
Some people still care to get involved - many don't. Many of us carry concealed out of a sense of duty to ourselves, our family, and our neighborhood or community. Many others would rather simply feed off the same people.
I'm not for helicopter parenting at all, but caution and education of our kids. I applaud those who have a Sheepdog mentality. Protect the Sheep from the Wolves, teach our children how to be Sheepdogs, and pray that those who prey on people are stopped or caught.
Not really fair to question the mom at a time like this. She is doing enough of that herself. She worked nights if I remember correctly, she may not have been able to get home on time every day. It sounds like they had a plan she had to walk a short distance by herself, then meet the larger group and continue on to school.
You don't understand since you aren't a parent, but you would do anything for your kids, give your life, help them in any way you can, you make your life revolve around theirs. help them with homework, get them fed, bathed, make sure they have fun, get the right amount of sleep, get them to sporting events, maybe some of them even give their kid a job in adulthood.[Beer]
They already said, IIRC on Sat, that mom usually got home, walked her daughter to where she met up with the other kids and then they all walked to school as mom went home and went to bed. I understand she works nights, and sometimes could be late, but when I was that age my dad either drove me to school or I went to the bus stop two houses down from where we lived. And I do understand, because I have parents that would do anything for my brother and me. I guess because I didn't grow up in the city though I may not fully grasp this...
They already said, IIRC on Sat, that mom usually got home, walked her daughter to where she met up with the other kids and then they all walked to school as mom went home and went to bed. I understand she works nights, and sometimes could be late, but when I was that age my dad either drove me to school or I went to the bus stop two houses down from where we lived. And I do understand, because I have parents that would do anything for my brother and me. I guess because I didn't grow up in the city though I may not fully grasp this...
I used to walk about 10 blocks to school. Sometimes I would meet up with my friends and we would walk together, other times I was by myself. We even walked a mentally challenged kid to school on occasion and he walked by himself as well at times.
Did that since 1st grade, no problems other than getting yelled at by drivers for throwing crab apples at their cars and for peeing on trees in peoples front yards.
no problems other than getting yelled at by drivers for throwing crab apples at their cars and for peeing on trees in peoples front yards.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Snowballs too... Till I hit a police car that is... Ended that practice pretty quick... :)
I didn't make them up: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf (https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf)
I never said you made the numbers up, I said that by presenting them in this thread, that it could be taken as you suggesting that those numbers indicate a rise in serial killers.
Fair enough - that wasn't my intent.
ChadAmberg
10-12-2012, 14:48
I didn't make them up: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf (https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf)
Homicide is the only major cause of childhood deaths that has increased over the past three decades. In 1999, some 1,800 juveniles, or 3 per 100,000 of the U.S. juvenile population, were homicide victims—a rate
substantially higher than those of other developed countries. At the same time, murders of juveniles are infrequent in many areas of our country. In 1997, 85 percent of U.S. counties had no homicides of juveniles.
Not my opinion, the research I've done shows a major increase in child homicide within the United States. This was one source - there are many available. You will not find any research (pick your source) that says the opposite is true. You are of course entitled to your opinion about the data, I was simply pointing out the alarming trend and my concern.
The information can be looked at from several perspectives, but can anyone say that we've seen a decline in homicides against children under the age of 13 in Colorado in the last 30 years? Sure, reporting is better, and law enforcement is more involved these days, but the trend continues to curve upward.
How are "children" defined in this study? Remove all data concerning violent crime where the victim was involved in gangs, drugs, over 18, etc., and what is left?
How are "children" defined in this study? Remove all data concerning violent crime where the victim was involved in gangs, drugs, over 18, etc., and what is left?
The information is in the report.
So I just checked... and I understand that DNA tests take time, but didn't they say we'd get word today? I haven't heard anything yet. Are they sticking with the usual 6:30PM press conference?
SA Friday
10-12-2012, 15:23
Depends on which DNA testing they have to do, and how the info will impact the investigation. If they have to do mitochondrial DNA testing, it will take quite a bit longer. It will have to be sent out, very few labs do this testing and it's very very difficult to get results that aren't contaminated because of the sensitivity of the testing. If they got a potential sample of the girl (prior to her abduction), the chances it's not contaminated with other DNA is very low. This means possibly having to run multiple samples for the best results and then still interpretation to determine her profile.
Then they have to weigh releasing the info or not releasing it and how it will impact the ongoing investigation. It could be some time.
UPDATE: Press conference right now...
Body discovered has been positively identified as Jessica Ridgeway.
Prayers are with the family in this great time of sadness.
So sad. I hope they catch the sick fvck!
DavieD55
10-12-2012, 16:07
Confirmed its here. :(
BPTactical
10-12-2012, 16:07
Confirmed just now on Ch9- the body found was infact Jessica.
Perpetrator still at large.
Rest in Peace little one.
Horrible! Just F-ing Horrible![Rant1]
Doubleajaybrock
10-12-2012, 16:49
This is about .75-1 mile north of Adawg38's and my house.
Definitely hits really close to home and everyone that drives by me, Im gonna be eye balling the shit out of!
rockhound
10-12-2012, 16:52
he can't be dead enough,
speedysst
10-12-2012, 16:54
Amber Alert has been cancelled. The body found in Arvada was confirmed to be Jessica. =(
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-12-2012, 16:58
RIP little one. Thought and prayers for the family.
SouthPaw
10-12-2012, 17:00
RIP Jessica. Sending prayers to all that were affected in this horrible tragedy.
RIP Jessica. Hope the person/people responsible get caught soon.
Man news like this sucks! Our society is failing as a whole.... There is a special place in hell for this person. RIP Jessica I know your at least in a better place watching over.
RIP. So sad. Life is to fragile, hopefully the family can find comfort knowing she is with god. May God be with them all and the ones searching for this person. However no amount of justice will ever be enough for this family. More than one life was taken by this person.
Lord, please be with the Ridgeway Family and our community. God please bless little Jessica as she rests in Heaven with you.
Give our law enforcement the skills and ability to find the murderer so that he may be brought to justice quickly and effectively.
In your Name, Amen
Man news like this sucks! Our society is failing as a whole.... There is a special place in hell for this person. RIP Jessica I know your at least in a better place watching over.
I disagree. There are more of us than there are people like him. We may lose some, as we have for this family, but we will not give up. We will not give in. We will continue to love and protect our families. We will not surrender to these animals. When we find these criminals, we will prove their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and punish them to the fullest extent of justice that we can provide in an imperfect world.
In the end, we all can choose. Are you hoping for perfection in this life, or are you confident that perfect justice will be found after?
I pray for peace for her family. I pray for strength, wisdom, and endurance for those who will continue the investigation and prosecution. I pray for our families.
Be safe.
sellersm
10-12-2012, 18:28
Lord, please be with the Ridgeway Family and our community. God please bless little Jessica as she rests in Heaven with you.
Give our law enforcement the skills and ability to find the murderer so that he may be brought to justice quickly and effectively.
In your Name, Amen
Amen. Condolences to all involved. Don't hesitate to tell your loved ones that you love them.
GhostRider
10-12-2012, 18:30
Lord, please be with the Ridgeway Family and our community. God please bless little Jessica as she rests in Heaven with you.
Give our law enforcement the skills and ability to find the murderer so that he may be brought to justice quickly and effectively.
In your Name, Amen
Amen.........
DSB OUTDOORS
10-12-2012, 18:35
R.I.P. Jessica!!
I hope they catch the sick bastard that did this!!!!!!!
islandermyk
10-12-2012, 18:36
Heart breaking news.....
Rest in Peace Jessica....
anaphylaxis
10-12-2012, 18:40
RIP Jessica. May your friends, family and community somehow find peace.
Let the hottest corner of hell be reserved for whomever is responsible for this; I hope they find their way there before having the opportunity to strike again.
RIP Jessica, I hope you are at peace and your family can get peace and justice very soon.
Rooskibar03
10-12-2012, 19:23
There is a family who isn't going to get to tuck their little girl into bed or kiss her goodnight again and it breaks my heart. Just a little older then my daughter.
Hug your kids a little tighter tonight fellas.
Rest in Peace Jessica.
R.I.P. you will be remembered. Thoughts and prayers to the family. Hope for justice.
I can't even imagine what the family is going through. So sad.
MileHighOutlaw
10-12-2012, 20:41
Lord, please be with the Ridgeway Family and our community. God please bless little Jessica as she rests in Heaven with you.
Give our law enforcement the skills and ability to find the murderer so that he may be brought to justice quickly and effectively.
In your Name, Amen.
Amen
very sad....I have 2 daughters her age, and we live just a couple miles away. It's not unusual for my daughters to walk to/from school...very sad indeed
so I know I don't know/haven't met a lot of you guys, the FBI told me to look out for unusual behaviors...most of you are pretty unusual already, has anyone changed their appearance in the last week or so, or done anything stranger than usual? "Profilers" say that the typical person we should be looking for is a white male, approximately 27 years of age that lives with their parents
Oh man. RIP Jessica, just so sad.
I hope they find the bastard that did this and string him/her up for all to see.
I hope that someone with "loose" morals finds this piece of shit before the cops do and make him wish (through the pain) for a quick and painless death....... [Mad] Of course with liberal society today, he will get a long drawn out court proceeding followed by 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, tv time, and a lover to share a cell with....... This guy will also probably find that last part ok. [Bang]
Great-Kazoo
10-12-2012, 22:23
I hope that someone with "loose" morals finds this piece of shit before the cops do and make him wish (through the pain) for a quick and painless death....... [Mad] Of course with liberal society today, he will get a long drawn out court proceeding followed by 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, tv time, and a lover to share a cell with....... This guy will also probably find that last part ok. [Bang]
This. Then the state appoints a lawyer for him.
What will be worse is when an anonymous source "Leaks" to the media. The alleged [Paroled registered sex offender] suspect had not reported in to his parole officer for over 2 months.
Remember the bleeding hearts feel we should welcome back in to society Criminals, who say they have been rehabilitated.
Over $100K in court cost to try and hopefully convict this piece of shit when it runs me $0.08 to reload.
Looks like they are searching for the guy last Memorial Day weekend that attempted to abduct a jogger in the open space by Ketner Lake who may have a connection to poor Jessicas murder. Possibly the same guy in the same place who attempted the same thing back in 2010. If it is him I hope they catch him and fry him up. It's too bad he has been running free these last almost 3 years.
I hope that someone with "loose" morals finds this piece of shit before the cops do and make him wish (through the pain) for a quick and painless death....... [Mad] Of course with liberal society today, he will get a long drawn out court proceeding followed by 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, tv time, and a lover to share a cell with....... This guy will also probably find that last part ok. [Bang]
Roger that.
This is just a few miles from my home and my children. Mob morals is exactly what this guy deserves.
I don't have the right word, but > 'irritated' that they haven't caught this guy yet... Haven't posted pics, drawings, whatever they've got yet.... Are they just waiting for us to forget?
wtf
USMC88-93
10-18-2012, 20:48
One of my work friends lives one block over from their home and he is just going nuts thinking about the fact it could have been his kid. The guy had to have been trolling past the bus stop where his child also goes.
My wife and I would both be a wreck if it that close. fuck that...
KevDen2005
10-19-2012, 07:35
Roger that.
This is just a few miles from my home and my children. Mob morals is exactly what this guy deserves.
I don't have the right word, but > 'irritated' that they haven't caught this guy yet... Haven't posted pics, drawings, whatever they've got yet.... Are they just waiting for us to forget?
wtf
Yeah, I think they are. I think if they had enough information to catch him they would just give him a stern verbal warning.
Seriously dude?!
http://www.9news.com/news/article/295144/339/Cross-could-be-crucial-clue-in-Jessica-case?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Cbc%7Clarge
New possible evidence. If anyone knows where to buy this cross uncovered at the murder scene or knows anyone who may have worn one like it to let Westminster PD know.
sellersm
10-19-2012, 16:08
There was just an 'incident' at my daughter's school campus, Northern Colorado Springs, where a guy supposedly asked a 9 yr old boy to help him look for his lost puppy. Guy was supposedly in a brown-ish, rusty pickup truck. The boy ran to his Mom and they went home & called police...
News stations are claiming someone is in custody relating to this case... that sucks no one got to him before the PDs did
BushMasterBoy
10-24-2012, 12:52
Austin Reed Sigg
http://www.9news.com/assetpool/documents/121024020853_Custody-report-Austin-Reed-Sigg.pdf
Punkface
10-24-2012, 12:56
http://www.9news.com/news/article/295144/339/Cross-could-be-crucial-clue-in-Jessica-case?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Cbc%7Clarge
New possible evidence. If anyone knows where to buy this cross uncovered at the murder scene or knows anyone who may have worn one like it to let Westminster PD know.
Cross says nothing to me. I have at least two of those. My catholic middle school and high schools handed those out by the handful.
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