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Pretty fucking cool that a human can free fall from 13 miles up, travel over 500mph, and land back safely on earth.
SideShow Bob
10-08-2012, 13:01
The Military/NASA did this in the 50's & 60's.......
spittoon
10-08-2012, 13:02
that is cool
The Military/NASA did this in the 50's & 60's.......
Yeah but that's effing NASA... this is a guy at the edge of space doing this... Pretty cool if he lives through it. They're saying he will be subjected to a constant 3.5Gs for 6 seconds (BFD- pilots push upwards of 9 at times, granted its for only moments, but the space shuttle astronauts hit more than that for longer leaving into orbit), and the big problem could be rotation at an extreme rate that could cause eye and brain damage... Should be an interesting watch- only 16 more hours to go.
Joe Kittinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kittinger) did this in 1960. Nothing new.
SideShow Bob
10-08-2012, 13:26
Joe Kittinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kittinger) did this in 1960. Nothing new.
Beat me to posting that link......[Tooth]
Here's a short video of his jump. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=high%20altitude%20free%20fall%20record&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEQQtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZ8R RkMsHOMU&ei=8CdzUPnqJoO9ygG1Ow&usg=AFQjCNH9lTvO757VRaR6lEKwrZcjI0sbzg
Did anyone read the mission? They talk about all of the previous records and the fact that he's going higher then Joe did, the 13 miles comment was probably supposed to be 23 miles since that's what he's attempting. He's trying for 120,000 ft to Joe's 102,800 ft.
Red Bull Stratos, a mission to the edge of space, will attempt to transcend human limits that have existed for 50 years. Supported by a team of experts Felix Baumgartner plans to ascend to 120,000 feet in a stratospheric balloon and make a freefall jump rushing toward earth at supersonic speeds before parachuting to the ground. His attempt to dare atmospheric limits holds the potential to provide valuable medical and scientific research data for future pioneers.
The Red Bull Stratos team brings together the world's leading minds in aerospace medicine, engineering, pressure suit development, capsule creation and balloon fabrication. It includes retired United States Air Force Colonel Joseph Kittinger, who holds three of the records Felix will strive to break.
Joe's record jump from 102,800 ft in 1960 was during a time when no one knew if a human could survive a jump from the edge of space. Joe was a Captain in the U.S. Air Force and had already taken a balloon to 97,000 feet in Project ManHigh and survived a drogue mishap during a jump from 76,400 feet in Excelsior I. The Excelsior III mission was his 33rd parachute jump.
Although researching extremes was part of the program's goals, setting records wasn't the mission's purpose. Joe ascended in helium balloon launched from the back of a truck. He wore a pressurized suit on the way up in an open, unpressurized gondola. Scientific data captured from Joe's jump was shared with U.S. research personnel for development of the space program. Today Felix and his specialized team hope to take what was learned from Joe's jumps more than 50 years ago and press forward to test the edge of the human envelope.
EDIT: Joe is also a member of the team
The Red Bull Stratos team is composed of world-leading experts in medicine, science and engineering, including a former NASA crew surgeon, record-breaking aviators, and designers of some of the most innovative aircraft ever produced. A key member of the team, retired U.S. Air Force Colonel Joe Kittinger is the man who astonished the world with his stratospheric jump more than 50 years ago and whose records Felix Baumgartner will attempt to surpass.
Jalopnik has an article with a neat diagram here http://jalopnik.com/5949353/everything-you-need-to-know-about-red-bulls-insane-world-record-23+mile-space-jump.
I've been waiting for this jump for a while. The practice attempts were pretty cool.
Jalopnik has an article with a neat diagram here http://jalopnik.com/5949353/everything-you-need-to-know-about-red-bulls-insane-world-record-23+mile-space-jump.
I've been waiting for this jump for a while. The practice attempts were pretty cool.
An important quote from this link
If Baumgartner lives through the 120,000 foot leap, he'll go down in the record books as the man with the largest set of balls to ever set foot on this planet.
NASA & Kittinger did this...this guy is doing it from higher altitude tho...
NASA & Kittinger did this...this guy is doing it from higher altitude tho...
Got everyone else in the thread on your ignore list huh? [Coffee]
Sharpienads
10-08-2012, 17:35
Dang, freefall for over 5 minutes. That's crazy.
buffalobo
10-08-2012, 21:11
Hope he doesn't doze off during free fall.[Coffee]
and trying to break the sound barrier in free fall. Balls of steel.
and trying to break the sound barrier in free fall. Balls of steel.
Or, as dumb as a door knob. Either way, very cool. [Beer]
and trying to break the sound barrier in free fall. Balls of steel.
Isn't terminal velocity for a person something like only 220 mph?
Isn't terminal velocity for a person something like only 220 mph?
He's gona be higher up where there is less, a lot less resistance.
SuperiorDG
10-09-2012, 06:26
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Isn't terminal velocity for a person something like only 220 mph?
At sea level- approx 30K feet Terminal Velocity is approx 200 mph (90 m/s). As altitude increases and the air is less dense, then a higher TV can be reached. Joe Kittinger hit 618 mph on his jump in '60.
Youtube just went live...
Edit: Attempt scrubbed for today due to gusting wind
HoneyBadger
10-09-2012, 11:38
Youtube just went live...
Awesome, thanks for the update [Beer]
Too windy they just called it off
SouthPaw
10-09-2012, 11:43
I think I just heard it is cancelled due to gusty winds.[Bang]
HoneyBadger
10-09-2012, 11:46
awww just aborted for the day because of wind.
ETA: Should have refreshed before posting... [Bang]
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
10-09-2012, 11:48
mission canceled
postponed until next Thurs. at the earliest. Too much preparation to give up that easily....
Their first problem was picking NM... They should have done this in Yuma, AZ where the US Army HALO Jump School is. They do 30-40,000ft jumps all the time there, so the weather shouldn't be too hard to deal with.
HoneyBadger
10-09-2012, 12:41
Their first problem was picking NM... They should have done this in Yuma, AZ where the US Army HALO Jump School is. They do 30-40,000ft jumps all the time there, so the weather shouldn't be too hard to deal with.
The big problem with weather is that they need winds less than 2mph from surface to 800 ft. Even a 3mph gust can be very dangerous.
Their first problem was picking NM... They should have done this in Yuma, AZ where one of the US Army MFF Schools are. They do 30K ft jumps when the weather permits there, so the weather is always hard to deal with.
Fixed it for you...
side note: have you EVER made a jump, Ronin? Then why are you try to diagnose what their problem is?
The guys who spent over a year planning this have NO IDEA, whatsoever, about what they are doing. Forget about the 10s of thousands of combined military and civilian freefall jumps between the jumper and his team, the engineers, meterologists, physicists, and other NASA gurus that have done the numbers on this several hundred times....They should have skipped all that and just asked Ronin for the answers... Come on Roni, you were intel. Use your head.
SuperiorDG
10-09-2012, 13:20
Their first problem was picking NM... They should have done this in Yuma, AZ where the US Army HALO Jump School is. They do 30-40,000ft jumps all the time there, so the weather shouldn't be too hard to deal with.
I heard the balloon is the problem. They can't launch it in those winds.
HoneyBadger
10-09-2012, 13:35
Fixed it for you...
side note: have you EVER made a jump, Ronin? Then why are you try to diagnose what their problem is?
I know this wasn't aimed at me, but I've jumped in 15kt sustained winds and it made things considerably more difficult. And this was from 5000AGL, not 120,000.
I know this wasn't aimed at me, but I've jumped in 15kt sustained winds and it made things considerably more difficult. And this was from 5000AGL, not 120,000.
YUP! 3-4 knots at surface is perfect for a buttery soft landing...
Fixed it for you...
side note: have you EVER made a jump, Ronin? Then why are you try to diagnose what their problem is?
The guys who spent over a year planning this have NO IDEA, whatsoever, about what they are doing. Forget about the 10s of thousands of combined military and civilian freefall jumps between the jumper and his team, the engineers, meterologists, physicists, and other NASA gurus that have done the numbers on this several hundred times....They should have skipped all that and just asked Ronin for the answers... Come on Roni, you were intel. Use your head.
Easy turbo... I'm just going off of what I know, which when it comes to this, I'll admit, isn't much. I've never made a jump but spent a lot of time with guys who have (granted their highest was 37K). I'm not a weather expert, nor am I a jump expert, never claimed to be. Just said I believe that they wouldn't pick Yuma unless it had more favorable conditions. Remember to breathe, man. [Beer]
Easy turbo... I'm just going off of what I know, which when it comes to this, I'll admit, isn't much. I've never made a jump but spent a lot of time with guys who have (granted their highest was 37K). I'm not a weather expert, nor am I a jump expert, never claimed to be. Just said I believe that they wouldn't pick Yuma unless it had more favorable conditions. Remember to breathe, man. [Beer]
Well then, please remeber for future reference that landing is only part of a jump. Getting up to altitude and the freefall all have their own requirements. Yuma is small compared to the area near Roswell and since there is a greater area needed to safely launch the balloon to altitude and for the jumper to remain within the projected DZ during his decent, Roswell is a much better choice based upon those conditions alone. Perhaps the US Army didn't want the attention at the facility at YPG, or flat out said no. What you know about jumping because you saw a set of MFF wings once, is nothing. Please keep that in mind before you post random bullshit. Talk about wat you know, not what you THINK you know (or in your case, becuase you were around someone who knows). We discussed this last time you were called out on something, right?
Well then, please remeber for future reference that landing is only part of a jump. Getting up to altitude and the freefall all have their own requirements. Yuma is small compared to the area near Roswell and since there is a greater area needed to safely launch the balloon to altitude and for the jumper to remain within the projected DZ during his decent, Roswell is a much better choice based upon those conditions alone. Perhaps the US Army didn't want the attention at the facility at YPG, or flat out said no. What you know about jumping because you saw a set of MFF wings once, is nothing. Please keep that in mind before you post random bullshit. Talk about wat you know, not what you THINK you know (or in your case, becuase you were around someone who knows). We discussed this last time you were called out on something, right?
Damn man, you must be on your period. Go put on your sweat pants and chill the fuck out.
Damn man, you must be on your period. Go put on your sweat pants and chill the fuck out.
Not your conversation.
Why do so many people want to jump in and act like experts by saying "well the problem is" or some other shit? Then others think that it is wrong to call someone put for posting mindless verbal diahrrea and decreasing the overall IQ of anyone who reads it? This is not arfcom because we post ACCUREATE information to help the shooting community; not to inflate our post counts and make us feel better about ourselves, or to jump into a conversation and talk shit because you were offended. If your purpose here is to have a high post count by posting about what you do not know or get easily offended...then go to arfcom.
Not your conversation.
Why do so many people want to jump in and act like experts by saying "well the problem is" or some other shit? Then others think that it is wrong to call someone put for posting mindless verbal diahrrea and decreasing the overall IQ of anyone who reads it? This is not arfcom because we post ACCUREATE information to help the shooting community; not to inflate our post counts and make us feel better about ourselves, or to jump into a conversation and talk shit because you were offended. If your purpose here is to have a high post count by posting about what you do not know or get easily offended...then go to arfcom.
While I don't disagree with you, you have to remember that this is an internet discussion board. It would be foolish to restrict people to post in threads that they were not experts on. I don't think that it's wrong to call anybody out here, but again keep in mind where you are at. This thread does not pertain to shooting, so I don't really understand your point about accurate information to help the shooting community when it comes to this discussion. I think that we all have to deal with enough bullshit in our day to day lives and we shouldn't have to worry about being "lifed out" on here for giving our opinion as stupid or inaccurate as it may be. That's all I'm saying man.
Not your conversation.
Why do so many people want to jump in and act like experts by saying "well the problem is" or some other shit? Then others think that it is wrong to call someone put for posting mindless verbal diahrrea and decreasing the overall IQ of anyone who reads it? This is not arfcom because we post ACCUREATE information to help the shooting community; not to inflate our post counts and make us feel better about ourselves, or to jump into a conversation and talk shit because you were offended. If your purpose here is to have a high post count by posting about what you do not know or get easily offended...then go to arfcom.
Mind your blood pressure- I don't know if your filter is broken or what, "Their first problem was picking NM... " I guess I should have clarified- JOKE ALERT! Hey, ya know why it's windy in NM? Because Texas sucks... [LOL] Relax a little, don't take life so seriously, you won't make it out alive. [Tooth]
And did you miss my other post- I DON'T CLAIM TO BE AN EXPERT... Your words in my mouth don't taste too good.
Mind your blood pressure- I don't know if your filter is broken or what, "Their first problem was picking NM... " I guess I should have clarified- JOKE ALERT! Hey, ya know why it's windy in NM? Because Texas sucks... [LOL] Relax a little, don't take life so seriously, you won't make it out alive. [Tooth]
And did you miss my other post- I DON'T CLAIM TO BE AN EXPERT... Your words in my mouth don't taste too good.
You're backpedaling after being called out Ronin = your words are not very believable. If your original post is not what you intended it to be, then perhaps you should read it and ensure you are saying EXACTLY what you mean before clicking on the Submit button. Again, you were intel???
There is nothing wrong with posting an opinion as this is what this place is for. However, just spouting off to make yourself feel cool is why people don't like arfcom and it's just plain annoying. People may think I'm a dick after reading this but at least they know I'm providing correct info and not just making shit up. Stop trying so hard to be an "internet cool guy" and just make sure you think before you type.
HoneyBadger
10-09-2012, 17:53
Holy guacamole batman! Does anyone remember that saying about arguing on the internet? [Bang]
HoneyBadger
10-09-2012, 17:56
YUP! 3-4 knots at surface is perfect for a buttery soft landing...
I will add this though: Landing at 15 kt sustained winds was a piece of cake. Some people call it a vertical landing... I just called it "cool".
The issue with landing is gusting winds. There's not a lot of wiggle room when your stall speed is that low.
The issue with the Red Bull jump today was the wind on take off.
Sharpienads
10-09-2012, 18:10
Damn man, you must be on your period. Go put on your sweat pants and chill the fuck out.
My thoughts as well.
Back on topic, hopefully these guys get to do this soon. Pretty exciting stuff.
patrick0685
10-09-2012, 22:32
it to bad they had to scrap the trip today...less then 2kts of wind is pretty light wind
Today is the day, capsule just released!!
They have the live feed up on YouTube. Dude is out of his damn mind.
Troublco
10-14-2012, 11:06
We thought about driving down to see it. That's only about 90 miles south of us; but I have a bad cold, dammit...[Rant1]
I woke up this morning and this was on. I do not think he will reach his goal (last I heard was faster than the speed of sound) but I hope he beats the old record.
If you missed the live feed, here is a recording of it.
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jumped from: 128,100 feet
max speed: 833.9 mph (mach 1.24)
free fall time: 4:20 sec
(unofficial figures from FAI given at press conference)
nice job Felix!
"Sometimes you have to stand on the edge of the world to realize how small you are" - Felix (just before his jump)
I didn't think his speed made it out of the 700's. Good job guy. I assume there wouldn't really be a sonic boom because of the low air pressure? How fast he dropped away from the capsule camera was insane!
Tinelement
10-14-2012, 15:18
Wow!!
I almost passed out when he stood up!
Dude has some serious balls!
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