Prairie Dog / Sniper Match In Pueblo

[Hoser]

The Great Prairie Dog Steel Shoot

10 Steel Prairie Dog Targets ranging from 175-610 yards shot under time constraints.

Rimfire targets range from 50-60 yards to 200-ish yards.

$10 per rifle entry fee.

Third Saturday of every month, year round. 9:00 and 1:00. There is no August match due to the State 4H Championship that uses the 425 yard range that we normally use.

Each competitor will shoot all 10 targets in four separate strings requiring no more than 40 rounds total for the match.

One shot per target. No make up shots.

No penalties for misses. Only points earned for hits.

15 total seconds allowed per shot.

Targets hit within the first 10 seconds are worth 10 points. Hits between 10.01 seconds and 15.00 seconds are worth 5 points. If the competitor does not take a shot before 15.01 seconds or shoots after 15.01 seconds, it is a 10 point penalty, hit or miss.

Shooters start prone behind rifle with bolt/action open. Semi auto shooters start with bolt open or safety on.

Upon start signal shooter may close bolt and engage target.

4 divisions. Heavy rifle, 12+ pounds. Light rifle, under 12 pounds. Semi-Auto rifle. 22 Long Rifle.

Scopes, bi-pods, sandbags, rests, muzzle brakes, laser rangefinders allowed. SBR Rifles allowed. Suppressors welcomed and strongly encouraged.

As of 2013 the caliber rules have changed. The max velocity for all bullet weights is 3,200 fps and no more than 30 caliber. Sorry, still no 338 Lapuas allowed. For the 22 division, only 22 Long Rifle is allowed. No 17s or 22 magnums.

Steel Core, Armor-Piercing and Tracer ammo *NOT* allowed. $100 fine per target that is damaged with above ammo. If you are shooting ammo that you did not load, check it with a magnet to make sure it isnt steel core. Steel core will destroy my targets and you wont be happy when **YOU** have to spend a grand or more replacing it all. In addition to getting 86'ed from the match/range.

Match re-entries are allowed.

The match starts at 9:00 and again at 1:00. The 9:00 match has 20 slots. Once those 20 slots are filled, everyone else will shoot the 1:00 match. The week prior to the match you need to send Chris an email telling him which match you plan on shooting.

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[Hoser]

I have had a few people ask some questions that I had not thought of.

Q: Can I shoot a light gun in the light gun class and then again in heavy gun class, for match score?
A: Yes.

Q: Exactly when?
A: Third Saturdays in Pueblo all year long.

Q: What time does it start?
A: The first match starts at 9:00 and the second starts at 12:00. Please try to be there 15-30 minutes early so we can start on time.

Q: Exactly where?
A: Pueblo West Sportsmans Assn. Go here for a map. http://ecouspsa.com/maps/pppsmap.html or 600 East Loma Drive Pueblo West 81007

Q: Is there prizes?
A: Nope. Bragging rights.

Q: Are suppressors allowed?
A: Allowed and encouraged.

Q: Can my kids come and watch?
A: Yes.

Q: Can I shoot my 338 Lapua?
A: No.

Q: Can I shoot a 22 Magnum or 17 HMR?
A: Nope. Must be 22 long rifle in the 22 division.

[ColoWyo]

Here are some pics from yesterday.

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[ColoWyo]

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[Hoser]

I completely forgot to post pics. My memory is perfect, but short. TC took the pics.

Lets start this off with a view of the Heavy Gun match winners backside shooting a 260.

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And the Light Gun match winner, Lizard Waltzer the famous gunsmith, and the 223 that he built.
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And some others.

Chuck and his 308.
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Mike and his 308.
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Brian and his 308.
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Pueblo West President Chris Skarmas shooting a Roscoes Custom AR-15 chambered in 20 Tactical. About 1/3 of the shooters were using AR's of some flavor.
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My pop came out to watch everyone shoot and help with set-up.
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Me and my Tubb when I actually remembered I was supposed to shoot. You gotta love Shark supressors. Its one one behind Mr Butterpants leg.
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And Harrison breaks out his Elk hunting rifle (6.5-284) to buck the insane winds.
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Without a scorekeeper and spotters there would not be a match. Cant do it without them.
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Just some of the guys.
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[ColoWyo]

Hoser, thanks for putting these shoots togther. They are always a great match. Much appreciated. Brian.

[Justin]

That was a blast. I really should have been shooting this match all year long.

Thanks for putting it on, Hoser. Good stuff all around.

[eerw]

so what would be a good recommendation..for rifle, scope and misc..if...

not going to reload..need to do it as economically as possible..and would like some success..

thanks..this looks fun

[Hoser]

so what would be a good recommendation..for rifle, scope and misc..if...

not going to reload..need to do it as economically as possible..and would like some success..



A Remington 700 in 22-250, 243, or 308. Even 223 or 220 Swift.

A decent 4-12 or 6-18 scope will work just fine. You dont need a $3,000 Schmidt & Bender to play. I am using an old 1980s vintage Leupold 6.5-20 I bought used for maybe $350.

Or any decent AR-15 will work. They have their own division.

[cdrissel]

Thanks Hoser!

Again exellent match!

Also looks like there is a new record score! Ben P - 380 points (thats only 2 misses from a perfect 400)

Thanks to all the guys and gal who helped set up, score, spot, time and tear down.

[Beer]

[Dinosdeuce]

First time for me and it was a hoot! What a difference it makes putting a time constraint on shooting at a small target at a fair distance. Looking forward to the next match. A couple of the those "dogs" took a beating.

[omega1]

Thanks Hoser for another great time. Love an excuse to play with some of the toys I spend too much money on. Hey Hoser, who donated the shirts? I would like to send a "thank you" for their support.
Wolly, would you like to make a wager on the next shoot? I promise to shoot from the prone next time.

[DocMedic]

I Tried to Take a shot of everyone but my battery died mid way. I'll try to make sure its charged next tim
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[k2peaker]

That was a ton-o-fun. I'll definitely be back.
Not sure about 'outstanding'; wait until those other scores are located.
Thanks to Hoser, CD, and all who put the match on. I know how thankless the match organizing, set up, etc. gets when you do it year after year. Hoser is in the E. CO match director hall of fame.

So my big takeaways (this from a IPSC gamer, learning 3-gunner, total LR noob):
1. Don't over-correct (esp. for windage).
2. Trigger control, trigger control, trigger control.
3. Prairie dogs look more like titmice (esp. at 425).
4. Shooter -- do your job. No one or no piece of equipment is going to do it for you (a key lesson for an IPSC Open shooter where "close enough" gets you by sometimes).
5. Hoser's a handsome man.

[GreenScoutII]

Man, I had a great time today! I got my ass handed to me, but still had a blast! Got to shoot with some really good guys too. Thanks Hoser for putting on a great match! See you at the next one!

[rtr]

Great weather today, good turnout, results just went out, PM me if you didn't get them. Took a few pics today they are below.

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View through my 15x Nightforce scope, the black thing to the left of the #5 is a Prairie Dog at 425 yards.
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[GreenScoutII]

Hey! Who posted the pic of the fat bald plumber? Nobody wants to see that! Just kidding.

Had a blast today! Seriously, all you guys should come and try this!

[Dinosdeuce]

Another great match! Couldn't believe it was January. See you all next month.

[Wolley]

Yea I had a ball and yes I really suck at this.
I need to find some place to shoot at 400+ yards. Apparently I don't have any clue where this rifle is shooting at 425. I never did hit 5, 6 or 7.
I'm moving in a few months so It doesn't pay for me to join a range.
Anybody know of place to get some 400 yard zeros?

[Wolley]

There will be a match, as of right now.

However a lot of us will be at Eddies funeral and will be running late or not showing up at all.
Eddie? Someone who shoots at the PD matches?

[Hoser]

Eddie?

Eddie Rhodes. Pueblo Police Dept Captain. The grandfather of 3-Gun in Colorado.

Without him there would be no rifle or PD matches in Pueblo nor 3-gun matches in Denver.

[Wolley]

Eddie Rhodes. Pueblo Police Dept Captain. The grandfather of 3-Gun in Colorado.

Without him there would be no rifle or PD matches in Pueblo nor 3-gun matches in Denver.
Thanks.
That's too bad. Sounds like we owe him a lot.

[ColoWyo]

I didn't know Eddie all that well. Just from BS'ing during the AR matches I attended. I don't think I'll ever forget him grabbing a six foot bull snake trying to slither through the course while some guy was shooting and running from obstacle to obstacle during the match. Cracked me up. The guy shooting had no clue as to what was going on behind him. Had to be one of the funniest things you'll ever see at a match.

What a great guy, our thoughts are with him, his family, and his friends.

Man! Could he shoot that he-man stuff!!!!

[Zak Smith]

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[GreenScoutII]

Awesome match today, weather was great and I shot OK.... #3 and #9 dogs were pretty well hidden in the grass from my vantage point which made it more realistic and more fun. Now, if I could just have the good sense to not set up a prone position below my buddy who dropped lots of hot brass on me, I'd be in good shape!

Thanks Hoser for putting the match on. I really enjoyed myself today.

[k2peaker]

I'm with Hoser that generally the 2-12 or 3-15 or 4-16 scopes of decent quality nail the majority of tac LR matches that we encounter. Read Zak's articles on tac LR -- he's a big proponent of "less is better" for specific reasons (well thought out, imo) but generally shoots exceptional quality glass (S&B, Zeiss/Hen., PremReticle). www.demigodllc.com (http://www.demigodllc.com)
I use a PR 3-15 (with the Gen 2 XR reticle). For the Tac LR matches, having some hold over/windage demarks in the reticle are key. Std MilDot, S&B P4F, etc. are all good options.

PDog matches: OK, I will admit that I yearn for some more mag at this match. The 425 yd shots look like titmice at 15x. When I've looked through Hoser's 5-25 S&B, and I dial to the mag that "I like" I'm usually around 17-18x. Is 15x through great glass a handicap on this size target? Too strong of a statement although I often wish I had marginally more mag. I definitely wouldn't want to be dialing the zoom from shot to shot though. Getting the elevation dialed and re-positioning for good technique & wind correction is enough to worry about between shots (for me).

Observation: just because you have some mondo zoom range, doesn't mean you have to use it. I can't imagine wanting/needing to dial past 15x for 100 yd shots. I do the SnipersHide Dot Test (look it up if you don't know it -- great technique drill) adequately at 15x.
And, if you're seeing huge heartbeat effects at any range, there's something in your set up that likely needs to be tweaked.
All, IMHO, of course.

[MOUNT-N-SLOT]

Hey guys!

IWC would like to present SureFire Illumination tools as recognition for the top three winners as well as the top youth under 18 years of age.

I'll be representing the Company, and will have our SCAR 16s w/ ACOG TA11-FG and LMT MRP CQB, 16", w/ ACOG TA11-F in the competition as well as available for anyone to demo / shoot.

IWC will have our MOUNT-N-SLOT brand Direct Attach Mounts on hand to demo, but not for sale, mounted to an SBR, Suppressed, LMT 14.5" AR with Aimpoint COMP M2 for folks to demo... using OUR AMMO FOR FREE!!! (only one round per participant, please!) [ROFL1]

IWC, now an authorized retailer for SureFire Illumination Tools, will also debut one of our new FLASHLIGHT MOUNT-N-SLOT products for the SureFire G2. IWC will begin selling SureFire / MOUNT-N-SLOT Combo's on our site at a great price in the next few weeks.

I look forward to meeting you!


MOUNT-N-SLOT

[Hoser]

I'll be representing the Company, and will have our SCAR 16s w/ ACOG TA11-FG and LMT MRP CQB, 16", w/ ACOG TA11-F in the competition

Shooting the match with a 3.5 power scope? That takes guts.

See you there.

[MOUNT-N-SLOT]

Shooting the match with a 3.5 power scope? That takes guts.

See you there.

IWC will not be at the Event this Saturday due to a scheduling conflict.

We wish the staff and participants a great shoot!

MOUNT-N-SLOT

[Dinosdeuce]

Today's match was once again a great match. Thanks to everyone for helping me out in Hoser's absence. Hope it was as smooth as Hoser's presence.

I don't know what it was with targets 4 & 5 but I only hit #4 once and never hit #5. #6 at 425 is always tough for me with my AR so no mystery there.

Weather was great and the winds were their usually degree of difficulty.

I sent Hoser the scores so will will be able to sent them out when he gets time.



Again I want to thank everyone for helping, it made the match a success.

Dino

[Hoser]

Again I want to thank everyone for helping, it made the match a success.

I would also like to add my thanks to Dino and Charlie that ran things while I went and shot the LE 3-Gun match in Lake George. Without people helping, these matches would not happen.

I hope to see some of you next Sunday for the Annual AK vs AR match and everyone else next month for the PD Match.

[offgrid]

1st time shooting a rifle match today, lots of fun. Look forward to the next one.

Kevin

[offgrid]

Great time.

Ya, it was a little cold, I was under dressed. But hey, I would do it again in a second.

[Tim K]

I'll echo the thanks to all who helped out.

You should be one of the thankees, not the thankers. So...thanks Dino! You and Tom put on a great match. I look forward to it all month.

So, anyone got a spare rifle, maybe in .223? I have a good friend coming in to town who will be here for the December match. He'd like to shoot, but just recently injured his right shoulder pretty good and doesn't think he can tolerate the recoil of my .308. The only other rifle I own is my .22 trainer, and I don't think I have 17 mils of elevation on my scope.

[esaabye]

I've been thinking of this one but not sure I have the hardware. My 308 is a DPMS 20inch and does not yet have a scope. Any recomendation on a reasonable scope for that platform?

My other option is a carbine with a fixed 4 acog or my A2 service rifle.

[Hoser]

I've been thinking of this one but not sure I have the hardware. My 308 is a DPMS 20inch and does not yet have a scope. Any recomendation on a reasonable scope for that platform?

My other option is a carbine with a fixed 4 acog or my A2 service rifle.

The ACOG is *not* a good choice. Not because it is a bad scope, but because simply seeing the targets at 250 yards plus at 4X will be difficult.

Your budget will determine how much scope to get.

For just holding over/off, any scope will work. When you start "clicking" you want to start spending some more $$$.

I would find a used Leupold 6.5-20 for $350-400 and give it a try.

[esaabye]

Money is an unknown, want to get the best value and not need to rebuy soon but like everyone else would like to spend as little as reasonable.

My first question would be what magnification do I want to look for? Fixed or variable?
Also, what about reticles options, being new to scopes I am not fixed on anything?

[Tim K]

Money is an unknown, want to get the best value and not need to rebuy soon but like everyone else would like to spend as little as reasonable.

My first question would be what magnification do I want to look for? Fixed or variable?
Also, what about reticles options, being new to scopes I am not fixed on anything?

Hoser's advice above is sound. I would personally like 14X or so as a minimum, and I don't think you can have too much. I like high power variable because you can always turn it down if you have too much. Reticles are easy, they should be graduated to match the click value on the knobs. MOA knobs, moa reticle. Mil knobs, mil reticle. Aside from that, I like them to be pretty fine, thin lines.

Conventional wisdom says Leupold is the minimum point of entry if you plan to dial for elevation, not just hold over. Moving up in dollars you next hit Nightforce which I think offers the best value. There are a whole bunch of $400 and under options that are hotly debated and discussed on other forums, and some of those are probably adequate. I have a $300 scope on a .22 trainer that is amazing for the money.

For about $1,700 you can buy once and never have to think about it again (unless you get into the super high end stuff). Spend less than that (new prices) and I predict you'll be shopping again if you stick with it.

[Dinosdeuce]

I'll echo that. Great match and some great shooting. Thanks to all who helped out!

Had a good turn out. Glad to see some new shooters. We are lucky to have such a fun and challenging match to shoot.

Be patient for the scores. Hoser isn't feeling well. He will post them though.

Tom Phillips shot an excellent match. I think next match I will have to dial his yardages for him!! What ya think Tom??

Dino

[SA Friday]

I'll echo that. Great match and some great shooting. Thanks to all who helped out!

Had a good turn out. Glad to see some new shooters. We are lucky to have such a fun and challenging match to shoot.

Be patient for the scores. Hoser isn't feeling well. He will post them though.

Tom Phillips shot an excellent match. I think next match I will have to dial his yardages for him!! What ya think Tom??

Dino

I say we reset his knobs and not tell him the settings. At least we will get a head start on him then.

[Hoopty]

Thanks to all who put this on. Also, big thanks to TimK and SAFriday for the help for a couple of long(er) distance noobs. Looking forward to the next match, and will likely be bringing another first timer or two!

Dave

[TommyTwoDogs]

Hoser, Gary, and all of you that bust your butts: Thanks, Thanks, Thanks, and more Thanks for all that you do to make this a really cool match. It is always a lot of fun andalways lots of good shooters. It was a hoot to see Lane behind a rifle. I sure wish I had as much time left in me as he does in front on him. He has talent. You guys leave an OLD Man's knobs alone! I already have eneough trouble remembering ot turn them and in what direction! Hope you are getting better Hoser. Sorry you were under the weather.

[jaydoc1]

Yep a great time. Best part was enjoying it with my dad and nephew. They (and I) are absolutely hooked. Looking forward to Whittington next month.

[rtr]

Great match, my shooting went from great to worse with 10 on the first string, and then well a lot less than 10. Here's a pic of dog #1 taken through my scope.
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[MadRabbit]

It was a great time, little tougher than I'd expected with several partially obscured targets. For my first time out to one of these shoots, I think I shot somewhat respectably at 75%, guess I'll know for sure once the scores come out. Great turnout, and well run. Big thanks to everyone who helped run the shoot. I will be back!

[cysoto]

I must admit that it was pretty humbling to get beat by a girl who just had a root canal done AND TO TOP IT OFF, was shooting left-handed!! [Tooth]

It was a great match and I had a wonderful time. I'll certainly be back!

[J Tactical Firearms]

Had a good time shooting today. Thanks for the hospitality and the effort of putting the matches together. Looking forward to doing these shoots more often. [Beer]

[TAR31]

Made it to the match yesterday, had a good time. If the objective was missing targets I would have won hands down, missed A LOT more than I hit. My first time shooting in the wind and it really let me know I have no idea what I'm doing. Gonna try to get some range time in the next month and give it another shot next month.

Sorry I'm bad with remembering names but thanks to the guy who was RO, timer and spotter for us in the 12:00 match.

[quickdraw]

Hoser, Great match, as usual. Thank you and Dino for the hard work.

[busdriver]

Hoser and Dino, thanks for all your work putting these matches on. Always fun, and always an education.

[omega1]

Thanks to Hoser, Dino and the gang for another great match and good time. Very smooth operation.

[Hoser]

Some pics from the afternoon match.

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[eneranch]

Just wanted to say thanks to Hoser & everyone for putting on a fun match. [Beer]
Being my first time out I wasn't sure what to expect; I was the guy furthest to the west.[Sniper]

I'm looking forward to returning in the coming months & improving my performance.

[Delfuego]

Great fun today. Thanks again Hoser! [Beer]

[kinetic-k]

great match! cant wait to do again

[rtr]

Congratulations to the first people to shoot a perfect score of 400, Brent and his daughter Lauren who BOTH shot 400 today.

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[Dinosdeuce]

Outstanding!!!! congrats to Brent and Lauren


Dino

[offgrid]

Congratulations to Brent and Lauren, very cool a father and daughter both shot a perfect score on the same day!

Ya', they were shooting a 6BR, single shot savage. Berger 105VLD/Varget.

Hey Dino, don't shoot where I shoot! Good shooting with you yesterday.

[Tim K]

A couple of shots from yesterday.

From right to left: Islander Mark, Hoser, and Tim K.

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Brian and Zack

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A view down the range with my fat ass blocking the way.

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One more to get a sense of the range.

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[islandermyk]

Here some pics of this afternoons match

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Hoser and Dino collecting the 600 yard target

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[islandermyk]

oh and here's a flag on a pole holding on for dear life [ROFL1]

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[Fentonite]

That wind was brutal, for a rookie like me. Probably not the best conditions to try and learn the dope on a new rifle! But that was a kick in the pants. Thanks, Hoser! And good to see you there, Mike!

[MBsnow]

Good times!! That 610yd PDog was no joke, I was just happy to get with in a few inches of it! See you all next month.

[Hoser]

Well we officially made the move up to the 600 yard range and everyone survived.

Huge thanks to Dino for being my right hand man and thanks to Stan for again helping with set up.

Turns out that the 600 is nowhere near as sheltered from the wind as the 425 was. The scores reflected that. The winds in the morning were stronger, but not nearly as switchy.

The 613 yard dog was only hit 13 times total. Only four people managed to hit it more than once and only one score was over 300.

All in all, only three of the targets are further than they used to be. However, just like before people will figure it out, step up to the challenge and the scores will be up there again. In the end we will all be better shooters and better at reading the wind because of it.

Within the next couple months the morning match will remain small targets with a 15 second time limit. The afternoon match will change to a more speed/action orientated match with some bigger targets. Obviously it will be more semi-auto friendly than single shot friendly, but the time limits will be long enough for a single shot to reload and twist knobs.

Good luck to everyone headed to Douglas WY next weekend for the Snipers Hide Cup.

See you all next month.

[Tim K]

What a difference from the old range. It's been a long time since I held full value at a PD match consistently, but that's what some of those strings seemed to require. Not that I'd know, Saturday was humbling.

I agree with Hoser that this new venue is going to make us all much better shooters, and I'm looking forward to learning whatever there is to learn from that switchy damn wind.

[Hoser]

Lots of people were there early to help. Dino and I tremendously appreciate it. We could and would not do it without you.

The rimfire targets worked as advertised. Farthest target was 120 yards and it was a 2.5 and a 5 inch circle. Close target was 50 yards and it was a .65 and 1.25 inch triangle. The shooter had the option of going for the points by shooting the little targets or half points on the big targets. A little strategy was involved. Kind of a "know your limits match" within a match.

Stewart set a new semi-auto record with his AR-10 chambered in 260. He also had the high score for the day of 370.

Hope to see you all next month.

Below is some pics of the new rimfire targets. Tim and I mainly shot the small targets to get the points while the wind was down.

Top Circle, 2.5 inch dia. Bottom 5.0 inch dia. The small target is worth 10 points and the big is worth 5 points.

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac105/puebloshooter/DSC03633.jpg (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/puebloshooter/media/DSC03633.jpg.html)


The stars were at 90 yards, kinda like at the Sportsmans Team Challenge. Tough friggin target. They look big but the actual area to aim at is pretty small. You can see a hint of a nick on the top of the right point. That counted as a hit.

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac105/puebloshooter/DSC03635.jpg (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/puebloshooter/media/DSC03635.jpg.html)


The rectangles are going to prove to be one of the most difficult targets. Lots of slop with up and down, but your wind call had better be spot on. Tim was perfectly centered up. I got lucky and caught the top of the target.

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac105/puebloshooter/DSC03634.jpg (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/puebloshooter/media/DSC03634.jpg.html)

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[islandermyk]

Don't let the pics fool you... these targets are pretty darn small.. and looks like fun as hell [Beer]

I need to get my 22 better prepped for the next one.

[Tim K]

The .22 targets were fun. They might need to go back a bit though, the scores were pretty high. A .22 trainer is such an affordable and entertaining way to learn to shoot in the wind I'm surprised more guys don't have them. I'm into mine for under $700 including the rifle, scope, stock, rings, 25 MOA rail, and bipod. Good ammo is expensive by .22 standards, but still way less than centerfire ammo.

All you .22 shooters need to bring your toys next month.

[Dinosdeuce]

Another one in the books. Many thanks to Tom P and Rick B for helping me set up. It is very much appreciated. Conditions were pretty good for October. Not many shooters but a lot of fun none the less. Thanks to all who helped during the match. As Hoser states over and over this match is only possible with everyone's help. I did not have to ask once for help during the match. Great job everyone and thank you!!!!!

Results were emailed out. If you didn't get them send me a PM and I will get them to you.

Dino

[Fentonite]

Those were the windiest conditions I've tried to shoot in, but it was a blast! Nice to see everybody - quite a turnout. Great to see some new faces too.

[Hoser]

Today might have been one of the nicest January matches we have ever had.

Lots of people showed up and almost everyone remembered to send Chris an email saying they would be there. Your match staff really appreciates it. It makes out jobs much easier.

Match results from todays match just went out. Let me know if you didnt get them.

See you next month.

[XC700116]

Another great match guys and we couldn't have asked for better weather conditions. I had a great time again as usual.

[jaydoc1]

Little chilly to start!

39575



Shaping up into a beautiful day!

39577



These look so much bigger up close.

39579



Good good turnout as always.

39581



Thanks again, Hoser, Dino, and everyone who makes this match possible for us!

[Dinosdeuce]

jaydoc1,

Shooters like you make it fun for us. Always glad to have you shoot the match. Hoser has it dialed down. More fun in the coming year. Hope to see you there.

Dino


Little chilly to start!

39575



Shaping up into a beautiful day!

39577



These look so much bigger up close.

39579



Good good turnout as always.

39581



Thanks again, Hoser, Dino, and everyone who makes this match possible for us!

[DAL357]

Lots of fun! A big thanks to those who made it happen; Tim, it was nice to meet you. Sorry to the guy who was shooting next to me and was the recipient of my AR-15's ejected brass.:(
David

[MBsnow]

Lots of fun! A big thanks to those who made it happen; Tim, it was nice to meet you. Sorry to the guy who was shooting next to me and was the recipient of my AR-15's ejected brass.:(
David
I think that was me. Lol. No big deal. I did have one land on my hand. I am curious how managed to make that position work between the ledge and the pole.

[DAL357]

I think that was me. Lol. No big deal. I did have one land on my hand. I am curious how managed to make that position work between the ledge and the pole.

Only one explanation: I'm kinda scrawny.
David

[DAL357]

BTW, any word on the status of the 600-yard range? Has it been cleared to use?
David

[Hoser]

Still in limbo. As soon as it gets opened up we will be there.

[Hoser]

For the next few months we are changing up the format for this match.

We will be running it as rimfire **only** until we can get up on the 600 again.

The format of how we shoot will change also. We will also be using reactive targets in addition to the targets we use now.

Plan on a 10:00 start time and bring 60-70 rounds. Set up will begin around 7:30.

Huge thanks to shooters, both PWSA members and non-PWSA members, that took time out of their busy lives to come help defend our matches at the monthly PWSA meetings.

[DAL357]

Why would you have to defend the matches at PWSA meetings, or anywhere else? The couple of PD matches I've attended were ran well, safe, and fun. Is old fogeyism rearing its ugly head?
DAL357

[Hoser]

Why would you have to defend the matches at PWSA meetings, or anywhere else? The couple of PD matches I've attended were ran well, safe, and fun. Is old fogeyism rearing its ugly head?
DAL357

We are not considered a gentleman's game. There are people on the inside and outside of the club that want not just this match, but the whole range shut down.

[eneranch]

45643

[DAL357]

We are not considered a gentleman's game. There are people on the inside and outside of the club that want not just this match, but the whole range shut down.

I'm sorry to hear that. So it is old fogeyism. So very sad. Shooting is more than just plopping one's arse on a bench and poking the tiniest groups in paper possible, although that's fun too.

I wonder who those outside the club who want to see the entire range shut down might be, disgruntled homeowners who knew there was a shooting range nearby and yet decided to build their large, out-of-place-looking homes on land not suitable for much else besides a shooting range anyway? (If that's not the case, then I apologize to all of large, out-of-place-looking homes homeowners for casting unfair aspersions.)
DAL357

[Hoser]

Thanks again to everyone that took time out of their busy lives and came out to the PWSA Membership Meeting on Tuesday night to support these matches and your club. The meetings are open to the public and are the first Tuesday night of every month. If one day you show up at the range to shoot and find the gate permanently locked, you cant say I didnt try to get you involved... The club you save might be your own. Our range is the nicest in the state, I would hate to lose it.

[Tim K]

Get those .22's cleaned up and ready to rock. Should be a fun day. The 40X mafia is going to be underrepresented (just me shooting a borrowed rifle), so you Savage weenies have a chance.[Neene1]

[Hoser]

Everyone that came out today got beat by a girl. Jackie again showed us she knows how to run an Anschutz. The 40X Mafia was hot on her heels though.

I rolled in a little before 8:00 with Dino for set-up. Within minutes there was 7 people lifting heavy things and making it happen. I cant thank you all enough.

The new format for smallbore worked out pretty well. Round count for today was 82. Now that we learned some things it will go much faster next month. Using reactive steel made spotting/scoring much easier.

Results just went out. Let me know if you didnt get them.

[Hoser]

Some pics of the targets we used yesterday. When you hit the target the plate falls backwards and leaves a hole, they just have not been repainted yet. Typical Biathlon targets. Also used at the Chevy Truck Sportsmans Team Challenge.

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac105/puebloshooter/DSC03563.jpg (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/puebloshooter/media/DSC03563.jpg.html)

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac105/puebloshooter/DSC03708.jpg (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/puebloshooter/media/DSC03708.jpg.html)

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac105/puebloshooter/DSC03707.jpg (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/puebloshooter/media/DSC03707.jpg.html)

[Tim K]

It's extremely low key, especially now that we're shooting only .22's for another month or so. I'm going to bring my wife next month (she's shot a few USPSA matches), I think she'll have fun.

[d_striker]

Will centerfire PD match be coming back?

[Hoser]

Will centerfire PD match be coming back?

Yup.

[Hoser]

Dont forget there is no PD match in August or October. The State 4H Championship is in August and the match staff is not available in October.

[Hoser]

Third Saturday of every month, year round. 9:00 and 1:00. There is no August match due to the State 4H Championship that uses the 425 yard range that we normally use.

[MBsnow]

Any word on centerfire coming back?

[Hoser]

Any word on centerfire coming back?

It will for sure. Not 100% sure when. When we do start it back up it will be on the 600 yard range.

[Tim K]

.22's this Saturday. Be there.

[rtr]

We will have a rimfire only match this Saturday at 10am, if you want to shoot please email chris "at" 3gunstuff.com before 5pm Friday.

Max round count 80.

Close target 50-60, far target 200-250.

[Hoser]

.22's this Saturday. Be there.

Yup. Bringing my pink 10-22 and my 40X.

If I am going to get beat by a girl, I would like to do it shooting a pink rifle.

[Tim K]

That kid can shoot, no doubt about it. We may have to make her an honorary member of the 40X mafia.

[Hoser]

Yet another victory for the 40X Mafia over the fancy pants German Rifles.

Notable is new shooter Jon, a new member of the 40X Mafia, scored an 80 out of a possible 96.

Thanks again to everyone that came early, stayed late, helped score, paint, reset targets, ect. These matches 100% completely depend on people helping out. With help, they can not continue.

[Hoser]

Ugly temps and lots of snow and mud at the range. Cancel.

[Taipan]

Is the rimfire class still going? (I don't mean for this month, I mean in general)

[rtr]

Is the rimfire class still going? (I don't mean for this month, I mean in general)

For the time being the matches are rimfire only. So assume the December match will be rimfire only.

[Taipan]

Sweet!! Thanks!!

[Hoser]

Centerfire and rimfire cancelled until for the time being.

A new match will start on the 3rd Saturday.

Details here... https://www.ar-15.co/threads/143351-Pueblo-Precision-Field-Rifle-Match