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I have a can of OC from 1999. My question is does it get worse with age? Or does it lose its strength? I have a new one as well that I carry at work, I just wanted to let my wife carry this one as a less lethal alternative.
It will still work unless the propellent leaked out. Test it outside.
It will still work unless the propellent leaked out. Test it outside.I did and just caught some of the vapor, which was not very pleasant. It definitely sprays the way it should.
RCCrawler
10-14-2012, 12:48
I bought an old Vault door that was originally installed in the 30's, in the process of moving it we bumped the lock that unknowingly had a glass vial of some sort of OC in it. I can say for sure that stuff didn't loose any strength after 80+years.
I'm sure it was filled with some sort of nasty cancer causing stuff too.
KevDen2005
10-14-2012, 12:50
I bought an old Vault door that was originally installed in the 30's, in the process of moving it we bumped the lock that unknowingly had a glass vial of some sort of OC in it. I can say for sure that stuff didn't loose any strength after 80+years.
I'm sure it was filled with some sort of nasty cancer causing stuff too.
Well that doesn't sound very good!
bigun1962
10-14-2012, 13:10
Good thing your lock only had OC in it. Used some 6 year old OC on some non compliant retards the other day. Worked well. Then was issued a new can.
BPTactical
10-14-2012, 13:55
I'm sure it was filled with some sort of nasty cancer causing stuff too.
Nah, just an agent that causes your penis to fall off.......
Nah, just an agent that causes your penis to fall off.......
A wedding ring? Did it land on your finger?
RCCrawler
10-14-2012, 14:13
Nah, just an agent that causes your penis to fall off.......
So far so good in that department, I pull on it every now and then to make sure it's still attached well.[ROFL2]
BPTactical
10-14-2012, 14:45
So far so good in that department, I pull on it every now and then to make sure it's still attached well.[ROFL2]
[Beer][ROFL1]
So far so good in that department, I pull on it every now and then to make sure it's still attached well.[ROFL2]
It'll fall off if you keep grabbing at it like that[ROFL1]
I bought an old Vault door that was originally installed in the 30's, in the process of moving it we bumped the lock that unknowingly had a glass vial of some sort of OC in it. I can say for sure that stuff didn't loose any strength after 80+years.
That would not have been OC. Most likely CN, which is what the military used prior to CS.
theGinsue
10-14-2012, 23:36
That would not have been OC. Most likely CN, which is what the military used prior to CS.
Had to look up "CN".
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenacyl_chloride
(yeah, yeah - Wikipedia, I know - but this reply should appeal to SA Friday (http://www.ar-15.co/forums/member.php?u=1802))
Phenacyl chloride is a substituted acetophenone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetophenone). It is a useful building block in organic chemistry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_chemistry). Apart from that, it has been historically used as a riot control agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_control_agent), where it is designated CN.
Preparation
Phenacyl chloride is readily available commercially. It may be synthesized by the Friedel-Crafts acylation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedel-Crafts_acylation) of benzene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene) using chloroacetyl chloride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroacetyl_chloride), with an aluminium chloride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_chloride) catalyst:[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenacyl_chloride#cite_note-0)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Preparation_of_phenacyl_chloride.png/500px-Preparation_of_phenacyl_chloride.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Preparation_of_phenacyl_chloride.png)
Riot control agent
It was investigated, but not used, during the First (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) and Second World Wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World_War).
Because of its significantly greater toxicity,[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenacyl_chloride#cite_note-xl-1) it has largely been supplanted by CS gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CS_gas). Even though CN is still supplied to paramilitary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramilitary) and police forces in a small pressurized aerosol known as “Mace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_(spray))” or tear gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas), its use is falling as pepper spray (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_spray) both works and disperses more quickly than CN.
The term "Mace" came into being because it was the brand-name invented by one of the first American manufacturers of CN aerosol sprays. Subsequently, Mace became synonymous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synonymous) with tear-gas sprays in the same way that Kleenex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleenex) has become strongly associated with tissue papers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tissue_paper) (a phenomenon known as a genericized trademark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genericized_trademark)).[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
Like CS gas, this compound irritates the mucous membranes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membrane) (oral, nasal, conjunctival (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjunctiva) and tracheobronchial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracheobronchial)). Sometimes it can give rise to more generalized reactions such as syncope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fainting), temporary loss of balance and orientation.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenacyl_chloride#cite_note-xl-1) More rarely, cutaneous irritating outbreaks have been observed and allergic contact permanent dermatitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatitis).[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenacyl_chloride#cite_note-2)
At high concentrations CN has caused corneal epithelial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corneal_epithelium) damage and chemosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemosis). It has also accounted for at least five deaths, which have resulted from pulmonary injury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulmonary_injury) and/or asphyxia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphyxia).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenacyl_chloride#cite_note-3)
A wedding ring? Did it land on your finger?That is pretty funny.
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