View Full Version : Fire John Fox and Eric Decker II
Watermagnet
10-15-2012, 19:56
Some of you Nay sayers on board yet? Decker is absolute JUNK and this is quite possibly the most undisciplined team since the Washington Sentinals took the field under Gene Hackmans watch [ROFL1]
Our defense will give up 3rd and 10+ 4 more times and we'll finally let Manning call his own plays in the middle of the third and lose by a touchdown again.
Rant over...Again...I think
hmm...they are having a great first half! the chargers that is[ROFL2]
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-15-2012, 20:04
How about the secondary?
JM Ver. 2.0
10-15-2012, 20:08
Decker is fine. If you're bitching about him falling, it happens... How about we fire the two dipshits that fumbled kicks?
Fire them all football sucks.
Just kidding, damn relax!
stevelkinevil
10-15-2012, 20:13
We obviously have a case of the big time Monday night mistakes. Embarrassing.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-15-2012, 20:15
Decker is fine. If you're bitching about him falling, it happens... How about we fire the two dipshits that fumbled kicks?
The new guy is just trying to fit in.
Watermagnet
10-15-2012, 20:15
Decker is fine. If you're bitching about him falling, it happens... How about we fire the two dipshits that fumbled kicks?
Normally in the NFL, "falling" happens after contact...Don't overlook the fact he either leads the league or is 2nd (depending on the week) in dropped balls. He gets paid a shit ton of money to catch a damn ball and run...Neither of which he has proved he is good at.
As far as the dipshits fumbling kicks, I hope my hometown biased glasses aren't obstructing my view but we clearly had possession of the 2nd one and it was stripped under the pile. It was clearly shown in the replay and the real dipshit fox didn't challenge.
Sharpienads
10-15-2012, 20:17
Some of you Nay sayers on board yet? Decker is absolute JUNK and this is quite possibly the most undisciplined team since the Washington Sentinals took the field under Gene Hackmans watch [ROFL1]
Our defense will give up 3rd and 10+ 4 more times and we'll finally let Manning call his own plays in the middle of the third and lose by a touchdown again.
Rant over...Again...I think
I have no idea what you are talking about. But based on the words "Gene Hackman", "defense", and "touchdown", I'm guessing it has something to do with football...
Tinelement
10-15-2012, 20:21
Decker dreams of being Jordy!
[ROFL1]
stevelkinevil
10-15-2012, 20:21
Besides the its McCoy who needs to be fired. He still calls plays like Tebow is the QB.
Watermagnet
10-15-2012, 20:23
I have no idea what you are talking about. But based on the words "Gene Hackman", "defense", and "touchdown", I'm guessing it has something to do with football...
C'mon, "The Replacements"??? I think Keanu Reeves won an Oscar...No?
Richard K
10-15-2012, 20:24
Yeah, how's that 65 million working out for ya Broncos? Tebow had better stats in his brief season as the Broncos starter.
Watermagnet
10-15-2012, 20:36
Still not coaching? Pretty sure I learned in 3rd grade to fall on a fumble...
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-15-2012, 20:38
Yeah, how's that 65 million working out for ya Broncos? Tebow had better stats in his brief season as the Broncos starter.
Show the stats.
Watermagnet
10-15-2012, 20:40
Still not coaching? Pretty sure I learned in 3rd grade to fall on a fumble...
HAHA! If I have to eat a little crow to ensure a Broncos victory I'm in!!! I'm pretty sure I've had worse in my mouth [ROFL1] But seriously, I did learn in the 3rd grade to fall on a fumble...
spqrzilla
10-15-2012, 20:41
You know, Tebow wasn't the best quarterback, I grant that. But he went out and showed so much drive, that he was always interesting to watch.
I get pretty bored with this Broncos team win or lose. ** yawn **
Watermagnet
10-15-2012, 21:20
Yeah, how's that 65 million working out for ya Broncos? Tebow had better stats in his brief season as the Broncos starter.
So far so good!!! Don't get me wrong, I F%ing love Tebow for his heart, but he is NOT an NFL quarterback... PFM is worth every penny +
Watermagnet
10-15-2012, 21:23
Yeah, how's that 65 million working out for ya Broncos? Tebow had better stats in his brief season as the Broncos starter.
+ I think you are about 33 million short on your numbers...No big deal, you must work for the government[Beer]
JM Ver. 2.0
10-15-2012, 21:34
Rivers is getting picked off more than a zit on a teenager.
The D sure showed up think second haff.
stevelkinevil
10-15-2012, 21:51
Cry for me Phillis Quivers, CRY you cocky lil bastard!
sneakerd
10-15-2012, 21:52
Yes OP- let's dump Fox and Decker!! You were WRONG all along.[Luck] New guy FAIL!
Watermagnet
10-15-2012, 21:53
Fook me...Foot = > mouth !!! I gladly accept I was wrong in my prediction....
I still maintain E. Decker sucks ball sack....
However!!! I maintain PFM is worth ever penny....Replace Fox and E. Pecker and Denver is at least AFC championship bound if not SB bound....
Richard K
10-15-2012, 22:01
Well, I'm glad to see they pulled it off. Manning earned some of that $65M in the second half but we have to give credit to the defense for stepping up and creating the turnovers as well.
hghclsswhitetrsh
10-15-2012, 22:05
Well, I'm glad to see they pulled it off. Manning earned some of that $65M in the second half but we have to give credit to the defense for stepping up and creating the turnovers as well.
I'm still waiting for your stats...
I like Rivers! He had a wonderful game.
ronaldrwl
10-15-2012, 22:45
New refs, old refs, they all suck. I watched 3 games this week and the refs made horrible calls in all of them.
On the other hand, all my teams won [Beer]
buffalobo
10-16-2012, 06:01
By DAN CAPLIS The facts show that Tim Tebow is off to a better start as an NFL quarterback than many of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history. Through his first 16 starts,Tebow won more games (9) than Peyton Manning (3), Troy Aikman (3),Steve Young (3),Aaron Rodgers (5),Matthew Stafford (6),Sam Bradford (7),Eli Manning (7),John Elway (8),and Drew Brees (8). Tebow accomplished that with a team that was 1-4 before he took over,and had won only 7 of its last 24 games.
In his first 16 starts,Tebow led his team to a playoff victory. None of these other greats did that. In fact,it took Peyton Manning,one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history,five full NFL seasons to lead his team to a playoff victory.
In his first playoff game,Tebow threw for 316 yards in a winning effort —against the best defense in the league.
It is so difficult for an NFL quarterback to throw for 316 yards or more in a playoff victory that Ben Roethlisberger has never done it. Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers have each done it once. Tom Brady,John Elway and Joe Montana each did it twice. Eli Manning did not throw for that many yards in a playoff game until this season. And those other quarterbacks had some of the best receivers in the NFL. Tebow is also near the top in another important measure of an NFL passer,which is the number of touchdown passes per pass attempt. In his first 16 games,Tebow averaged an impressive one touchdown pass for every 23 pass attempts (1-23). The same as Peyton Manning. Better than Steve Young (1-46),John Elway (1-36),Drew Brees (1-34) and Tom Brady (1-36). And just slightly behind Aaron Rodgers (1-21),Matthew Stafford (1-21),and Eli Manning (1-21).
Even more important is the fact that Tebow threw very few interceptions per pass attempt. Just one pick for every 43 pass attempts (1-43). That’s twice as good as Peyton Manning (1-21). Much better than Elway (1-19),Stafford (1-26) and Eli Manning (1-29). Better than Brees (1-34), Brady (1-36),Rodgers (1-39) and Bradford (1-40). This fact is particularly important, because ESPN contends that the chance of a team winning an NFL game goes down 20 percent with each interception a quarterback throws.
Through 16 starts,Tebow has a far better touchdown pass-to-interception ratio (17 touchdowns-9 interceptions) than Peyton Manning (26-28),Brees (15-15),Stafford (28-23),Bradford (18-15),Elway (10-19), Aikman (12-25) and Young (9-16). Tebow’s rate is also better than Eli Manning’s (21-14),and the same as Aaron Rodgers’ (23-12).
According to these key factual measures of an NFL passer (wins,touchdown passes, interceptions,playoff performance) Tebow is off to a better start as an NFL passer than many of the great passing quarterbacks in NFL history.
Tebow’s critics do not speak of these facts. Instead,they harp on the style of his passes and his completion percentage (46 percent). That is illogical. Results are more important than style. And completion percentage is far less important than wins, touchdowns,interceptions and playoff success. That is proved by the fact that Tebow has far more wins,and a much better touchdown and interception ratio, than many quarterbacks who have a higher completion percentage.
Peyton Manning is a certain Hall of Fame quarterback and a man of great character and integrity.
But the facts also show,at this point, Manning is not a more effective quarterback than Tebow. Last season, Tebow started 13 games. When you compare those 13 starts to Manning’s last 13 starts,the results are almost the same.
Over their last 13 starts,Tebow and Manning have the same winning record —8-5. Each threw one touchdown pass for every 23 pass attempts. Tebow threw only one interception for every 51 passes. Unfortunately,Manning threw one interception for every 33 pass attempts. Tebow won one playoff game and lost the next. Manning lost his only playoff game, 17-16,to the Jets. Since Manning played these last 13 games,he has reportedly undergone three neck procedures and has not played for 14 months.
Tebow also brings the critical advantage of mobility to the field,which Manning does not. Over their last 13 starts,Tebow ran for 681 yards and 6 touchdowns. Manning ran for 23 yards and 0 touchdowns. Manning’s lack of mobility may explain some of the difficulty he has encountered in the playoffs during his storied career.
While it is undisputed that Manning is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time,he has only won one first-round playoff game since 2006. He has lost in the first round of the playoffs seven out of the 11 times his team has made it that far. He is 1-3 against New England in the playoffs,averaging 9 points a game in those losses.
None of these facts are intended as a criticism of Manning. They are simply proof of the undeniable fact that injuries and age take their toll on even the greatest quarterbacks. And no quarterback who has won a Super Bowl with one team has ever won a Super Bowl with his next team.
So the assumption that the Broncos would automatically be a better team right now under Manning is not supported by the facts. The facts show that Tebow is,by comparison,a great young quarterback with most of his career in front of him. Manning is a Hall of Fame quarterback with most of his career behind him. And over the course of their last 13 games,Tebow and Manning performed at approximately the same level.
It would be highly illogical for the Broncos to replace Tim Tebow with Peyton Manning. Such a decision,no matter how well-intentioned,would likely undermine the franchise for years to come.
D
buffalobo
10-16-2012, 06:07
Stats per whitetrsh request.
Just helping out. Not much of a pro football fan so no dog in the game.
Did enjoy Rivers collapse.
Singlestack
10-16-2012, 06:30
Loved to hear Rivers whine in the press conference that never ever did the Broncos coverages ever fool him, it was just a few bad throws. He whines after every call that goes against him. Norv sounded like he was going to breakdown and cry in his press conference. Hard to see him as their coach next year...
Singlestack
I like the the Manning/ decker combo but it seems like when they are trying to convert an easy 3rd down Decker can never catch the ball.
The only time Decker is good is when it's almost an impossible ball to catch and he seems to pull them in.
sbouslog
10-16-2012, 07:25
Did you see the catch that decker pulled in last night before he got a BS OPI call on him? He is a talented kid. He looked like Brandon Marshall out there (when Marshall is playing good).
Did you see the catch that decker pulled in last night before he got a BS OPI call on him? He is a talented kid. He looked like Brandon Marshall out there (when Marshall is playing good).
I hardly think that was OPI... but I'm not going to say anything about the refs, they're still better than those replacements we had at the beginning of the season.
Who is this Chris Harris guy? Holy cow, he is hungry for some picks! Watch Champ... there's a new Corner in town! [Beer]
We broke some records last night... Much needed win! And yes, I hate Rivers, he's a bitch. [Tooth]
http://www.reddit.com/r/DenverBroncos/comments/11jymg/a_bunch_of_gifs_from_the_broncos_epic_comeback/
http://i.imgur.com/OxY8Y.jpg
http://www.reddit.com/r/DenverBroncos/comments/11jymg/a_bunch_of_gifs_from_the_broncos_epic_comeback/
http://i.imgur.com/OxY8Y.jpg
[ROFL1] That's awesome!
And OP, don't be hard on yourself- after the 2nd return fumble I took a break from watching and cursed football... I even asked "Is it DU hockey season yet?"
Some of you Nay sayers on board yet? Decker is absolute JUNK and this is quite possibly the most undisciplined team since the Washington Sentinals took the field under Gene Hackmans watch [ROFL1]
Our defense will give up 3rd and 10+ 4 more times and we'll finally let Manning call his own plays in the middle of the third and lose by a touchdown again.
Rant over...Again...I think
Notes the time this post was created: Yesterday, 07:56 PM
aka Just before half time. [LOL]
Yeah, how's that 65 million working out for ya Broncos? Tebow had better stats in his brief season as the Broncos starter.
Did he ever come back from 24-0 at the half? IN Sand Diego? Didn't think so. Now what?
You know, Tebow wasn't the best quarterback, I grant that. But he went out and showed so much drive, that he was always interesting to watch.
I get pretty bored with this Broncos team win or lose. ** yawn **
Good, then you're not a Broncos fan. You're a Tebow fan. Go buy a Tebow Jets jersey and move along. Us true Bronco fans won't miss you.
Well, I'm glad to see they pulled it off. Manning earned some of that $65M in the second half but we have to give credit to the defense for stepping up and creating the turnovers as well.
That's SUCH bullshit. You hope that Manning fails because you will be the first one to say 'See, I told you Tebow was better' and that is NOT a true Bronco fan. Then you pretend to care about the Broncos.
ANY ACTUAL BRONCO FAN KNOWS MANNING IS A BETTER QB.
And it's not even close either. We're talking about one of the greatest QBs to EVER play the game of football. EVER. Tebow isn't even the starting QB on the mediocre team he's on and oh by the way.. they hate their starting QB. What does that say to you?
And if it was $65M it would be a bargain. He's getting paid just shy of $100M and in the same league where a QB like Vick is being paid more I would say Manning's performance heavy contract is a great deal. If you're going to condescend at least get your figures right.
New refs, old refs, they all suck. I watched 3 games this week and the refs made horrible calls in all of them.
On the other hand, all my teams won [Beer]
They all get calls wrong but at least the real refs march off the right yards on the incorrect calls and keep the pace of the game moving. Those were my biggest gripes with the replacements. Games would grind to a halt WAY too often only to get shit wrong anyway. Either slow shit down and get it RIGHT or keep the game pace up and get it wrong but don't do BOTH.
That's SUCH bullshit. You hope that Manning fails because you will be the first one to say 'See, I told you Tebow was better' and that is NOT a true Bronco fan. Then you pretend to care about the Broncos.
ANY TRY BRONCO FAN KNOWS MANNING IS A BETTER QB.
And it's not even close either. We're talking about one of the greatest QBs to EVER play the game of football. EVER. Tebow isn't even the starting QB on the mediocre team he's on and oh by the way.. they hate their starting QB. What does that say to you?
And if it was $65M it would be a bargain. He's getting paid just shy of $100M and in the same league where a QB like Vick is being paid more I would say Manning's performance heavy contract is a great deal. If you're going to condescend at least get your figures right.
I've been a Broncos fan since I can remember... I hate to say it, but stats wise, it's tough to decide who's better (at their peak) Elway or Manning... I love Elway, he was the first QB I ever watched, and he was the only QB I ever rooted for (well he and Aikman, but 1/2 my family is from TX).
I really do wish the Broncos could figure out how to come out and actually play the first half. I'd be happy with a lot of boring blowout wins, rather than thrilling, come-from-behind cliffhangers...
I've been a Broncos fan since I can remember... I hate to say it, but stats wise, it's tough to decide who's better (at their peak) Elway or Manning... I love Elway, he was the first QB I ever watched, and he was the only QB I ever rooted for (well he and Aikman, but 1/2 my family is from TX).
My post was directed at those delusional souls who still claim Tebow is a better QB than Manning or that Denver would somehow be better off if Tebow was still here. As to who was a better QB Elway or Manning? Who cares... they're both Broncos! [Beer]
I really do wish the Broncos could figure out how to come out and actually play the first half. I'd be happy with a lot of boring blowout wins, rather than thrilling, come-from-behind cliffhangers...
I tend to agree with that and as I've said before they will get better as the season goes on. I still predict them to win the division, make the playoffs and then start to really come together. The only reason they win the division is because of how bad the competition is otherwise I would say that I see them barely clinging to a wild card to make the playoffs because I see them barely finishing 9-7 due to the learning curve of this offense. This offense is so meticulous that it takes lots of time for everyone to get it figured out. So long as the defense plays the way they played in the 2nd half and if they ever figure out how to play special teams they will be just fine.
My post was directed at those delusional souls who still claim Tebow is a better QB than Manning or that Denver would somehow be better off if Tebow was still here. As to who was a better QB Elway or Manning? Who cares... they're both Broncos! [Beer]
Lets just say, anyone who thinks Tebow would have done better with our Donkeys, is clearly not very sharp on the 'ol Foosball... [Coffee]
Richard K
10-16-2012, 16:50
That's SUCH bullshit. You hope that Manning fails because you will be the first one to say 'See, I told you Tebow was better' and that is NOT a true Bronco fan. Then you pretend to care about the Broncos.
ANY ACTUAL BRONCO FAN KNOWS MANNING IS A BETTER QB.
And it's not even close either. We're talking about one of the greatest QBs to EVER play the game of football. EVER. Tebow isn't even the starting QB on the mediocre team he's on and oh by the way.. they hate their starting QB. What does that say to you?
And if it was $65M it would be a bargain. He's getting paid just shy of $100M and in the same league where a QB like Vick is being paid more I would say Manning's performance heavy contract is a great deal. If you're going to condescend at least get your figures right.
Oh dear, I've been chastized! BTW, up yours!
Oh dear, I've been chastized! BTW, up yours!
Clever come back? I guess I won't label you someone who doesn't know when they're wrong.
Lets just say, anyone who thinks Tebow would have done better with our Donkeys, is clearly not very sharp on the 'ol Foosball... [Coffee]
Why do they always have to whine the loudest? It's so damn annoying when we're talking actual football then some derp comes along parroting what he heard at Church Sunday about how John Elway is the devil for what he did to their golden child Tebow. I actually liked Tebow... when he was a Bronco. I moved on about 2min after he was traded to the Jets. I'm sick of these idiots who try to play like they're Bronco fans when their true colors come out as soon as he's traded. Funny, I went to Indianapolis a couple weeks ago and I still saw TONS of fans wearing Indy gear. Lots of them didn't agree with cutting Peyton Manning but guess what... they're Colts fans first. I respect that.
Just had a FREE bigmac.
My stomach doesn't feel good. :(
ETA: I will probably get one AGAIN when they beat Saints. :D
Just had a FREE bigmac.
My stomach doesn't feel good. :(
ETA: I will probably get one AGAIN when they beat Saints. :D
Me too! On both counts. lol
Just had a FREE bigmac.
My stomach doesn't feel good. :(
ETA: I will probably get one AGAIN when they beat Saints. :D
wait...mcdonalds doesn't make you feel good?
[ROFL1]
JM Ver. 2.0
10-16-2012, 19:02
I really did enjoy watching Tebow play. But, when it comes to passing and reading the D... Manning is hands down better than Tebow.
I do think Tebow will be a good QB though. He's got the drive and the will. He will learn and he will be good. Just not as good as a QB the likes of Manning and Elway.
wait...mcdonalds doesn't make you feel good?
[ROFL1]
I'm lovin' it? [Puke]
I really did enjoy watching Tebow play. But, when it comes to passing and reading the D... Manning is hands down better than Tebow.
I do think Tebow will be a good QB though. He's got the drive and the will. He will learn and he will be good. Just not as good as a QB the likes of Manning and Elway.
I also enjoyed watching him and I routed for him when he was in Bronco's orange. I think he can get better but I don't think he will ever be a good QB in the NFL. He just doesn't have what it takes which is something you can't teach. There's a reason that great college QBs never amount to anything in the NFL.. it's just a different game. It requires a massive amount of intellectual power and most don't have it and I think Tebow fits into this category. He's a nice enough kid with a phenomenal amount of drive but that's just not enough in the NFL. You either have it or you don't. IMO Tebow doesn't have it. I do think he's a great athlete and can make a heck of a contribution to whatever team he's on I just don't see him taking a team to the SuperBowl as a starting quarterback.
Me too! On both counts. lol
wait...mcdonalds doesn't make you feel good?
[ROFL1]
LOL.
Mcdonald makes me feel real good, because I loose a pound of my weight per visit.
:D
ronaldrwl
10-17-2012, 13:25
I think the correct question is would the Bronco's be better with Tebow and 25 million dollars worth of other players they could have added with the money they spent on Payton. Clearly Tebow is not as good of a passer but would the team be better?
I think the correct question is would the Bronco's be better with Tebow and 25 million dollars worth of other players they could have added with the money they spent on Payton. Clearly Tebow is not as good of a passer but would the team be better?
The easy answer to that question is no. Who wants to come to Denver to play with Tebow? Wide receivers were scrambling to get OUT of here once he got the start just like they will do the same in NY if/when he gets the nod there. On the other hand, quality veterans have come to Denver just because Manning signed. If they do well this year (which I predict) you will see a massive amount of quality veteran players willing to come to Denver for less money to have a chance at winning a ring. This same scenario has played out time and time again across various sports. I still like my odds with a Peyton Manning vs a Tim Tebow in your question.
nisils14
10-17-2012, 14:03
I think the correct question is would the Bronco's be better with Tebow and 25 million dollars worth of other players they could have added with the money they spent on Payton. Clearly Tebow is not as good of a passer but would the team be better?
No, a quarterback is expected to pass, you can't expect to run a option offense that they had with tebow and have any sort of longevity with it. Building Tebow into a passer would've taken years, and the broncos needed a quarterback 5-7 years ago. The broncos will be more competitive this way. The chemistry will come as soon they can understand Peyton at quarterback. I like Tebow but don't tell me this team is better off with Tebow than we are with Manning.
clublights
10-17-2012, 14:06
I like Tebow but don't tell me this team is better off with Tebow than we are with Manning.
Depends on which half of sundays game we are talking about ..... [ROFL1]
if you asked me at half time............ yeah I think you kw where this is going [Coffee]
nisils14
10-17-2012, 14:19
I think a few of the games we came back and could've won them. I think Manning is doing a fine job in Denver. You can't expect him to jump into a completely new system and shoot magic touchdowns all over the place. Brings me to the saying "Rome wasn't built overnight." People tend to forget that.
Depends on which half of sundays game we are talking about ..... [ROFL1]
if you asked me at half time............ yeah I think you kw where this is going [Coffee]
Revisionist history much?
The Denver Broncos averaged 19.25pts in games that Tebow started last year including a grand total of 3pts against the Chiefs (finished last in the division) at home in a game that they needed in order to make the playoffs... i.e. The most important game of Tebow's career to this point... and he choked. They would later back in but that's not the point here.
What in that list of FACTS makes you think a Tebow led Broncos would have enough to come back with 35pts in the second half.
The Broncos are better off and those who continue to doubt that are not real Bronco fans they're Tebow fanbois.
ghettodub
10-17-2012, 15:23
The Broncos are better off and those who continue to doubt that are not real Bronco fans they're Tebow fanbois.
^ Yep, I agree. When people were mad that Tebow was gone, and said they weren't going to watch anymore, I say screw em. They weren't Bronco fans anyways; so long.
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