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Should I trade a Taurus PT1911 for a Para Hawg 9mm? The Hawg was said to have 500 rds through it with the proper 300 rd break in. I am just wondering if it was not broke in right would that hurt the gun? Is there anything else I should know before trading. Both guns are in the same cosmetic condition with carry wear. Thanks guys.
Great-Kazoo
10-15-2012, 22:54
Yes.
kidicarus13
10-15-2012, 23:01
Most brands to trade for a Para I'd say no but a Taurus semi-auto? TRADE!
Scanker19
10-15-2012, 23:01
I have not heard good things about the hawg.
BPTactical
10-15-2012, 23:08
Para's are like a box o chocolates, you never know what your getting.
They can be a touch cantankerous and Para's CS sucks dawg bawls.
But they can be overcome.
It will certainly hold value much better than a T brand item.
Do it
You know you want to.
Para's are like a box o chocolates, you never know what your getting.
They can be a touch cantankerous and Para's CS sucks dawg bawls.
But they can be overcome.
It will certainly hold value much better than a T brand item.
Do it
You know you want to.If there is something wrong with it can you fix it? Like not being broke in properly with the lack of lube they come with new. I believe the instructions say something about not taking it apart for the first 100 rounds. You guys know I like my Taurus pistols, but even I have to wonder why he wants to trade.
Goodburbon
10-15-2012, 23:14
Yes.
BPTactical
10-15-2012, 23:24
If there is something wrong with it can you fix it? Like not being broke in properly with the lack of lube they come with new. I believe the instructions say something about not taking it apart for the first 100 rounds. You guys know I like my Taurus pistols, but even I have to wonder why he wants to trade.
Morthanlikely
MorthanlikelyOkay I guess I will do it then. I will probably do a nice fluff and buff on it like I do with everything else and see how it runs. Unless you think I should see first, I like having a polished FR on everything I own.
The Hawg was said to have 500 rds through it with the proper 300 rd break in.
I have always heard the proper break in was 317 rounds.
Seriously, what do you the proper break in? If it works, it works.
the whole break in thing is completely ridiculous.
sneakerd
10-16-2012, 08:01
Dump one of those POS Taurus' and try the Hawg. Looks the Train is back in Black!
DD977GM2
10-16-2012, 08:05
Most brands to trade for a Para I'd say no but a Taurus semi-auto? TRADE!
^^^^ Quoted For the Truth[M2]
Anytime you can trade a Taurus for anything better, you do it. [Beer]
DD977GM2
10-16-2012, 08:07
But the a**hole in me says, your getting rid of a 45 ACP 1911 style that
honestly has a good reputation even though its made from Taurus for a
silly 9mm cleverly named compact pistol, this is not a deal I would activly persue.
Thats just me. I know in my heart a 9mm is a great round, but my first hand experience
with it makes me wary of ever carrying anything but a caliber in 40.
sneakerd
10-16-2012, 08:13
You know bud- it's not the size or speed of the pill you send downrange, it's if you can hit a soft spot. I love my 9 millies and have no interest in shooting costly 40s.
HoneyBadger
10-16-2012, 08:35
You know bud- it's not the size or speed of the pill you send downrange, it's if you can hit a soft spot. I love my 9 millies and have no interest in shooting costly 40s.
DUCK! It's another caliber war!!!
[Peep]
[Coffee]
DD977GM2
10-16-2012, 08:39
You know bud- it's not the size or speed of the pill you send downrange, it's if you can hit a soft spot. I love my 9 millies and have no interest in shooting costly 40s.
I know what you mean, thats why I said in my heart I know its a good round
and I know I dont want to be on the receiving end of a 9mm.....but.....(Theres always a but)
My real world expereince says the guy with a few rounds center mass still put up a
great fight and I thought he would never drop.
Thats my jaded view of 9mm. I probaly will always have that view. 40 S&W is abotu 3 bucks
more per 50 at wally world, so the price diffrence isnt all that great IMHO.
sneakerd
10-16-2012, 08:44
40s suck and anybody who thinks otherwise is stupid!
[Stooge]
UncleDave
10-16-2012, 08:48
40s suck and anybody who thinks otherwise is stupid!
[Stooge]
Oh throwing down the fighting words of the caliber wars!
[LOL]
That break-in thing is a bunch of crap. Shoot it, hand cycle it, do it dry or lubed, it makes no difference.
With that said, I personally wouldn't trade a 1911 (which I shoot well) for some baby double stack 9 that may or may not function. If your Taurus is reliable, I'd keep it.
sneakerd
10-16-2012, 08:55
[Battle]
Them are 9s by the way!!
That break-in thing is a bunch of crap. Shoot it, hand cycle it, do it dry or lubed, it makes no difference.
With that said, I personally wouldn't trade a 1911 (which I shoot well) for some baby double stack 9 that may or may not function. If your Taurus is reliable, I'd keep it.
^^This.
brokenscout
10-16-2012, 09:03
I normally wouldn't say this, but keep the Taurus[Beer]
Everyone KNOWS that anything smaller than 40mm is an unreliable stopper. Whatcha really need is a M203 for EDC...
[Peep]
Seriously, if you like your PT, and it's accurate and reliable, hang on to it. If you want something different, make the trade. It's not like you'll be stuck with the Para forever. If you trade into it and hate it, trade it for something else...
I have not heard good things about the hawg.
The Para Hawg in .45 is a notorious jam-o-matic . . . I have never heard of one running well, even with polishing and new springs.
If you want an affordable compact 9mm, there is a CZ RAMI on sale in the forum for under 500 right now, and that pistol is far better than the Hawg or the Taurus.
bellavite1
10-16-2012, 10:48
The Para Hawg in .45 is a notorious jam-o-matic . . . I have never heard of one running well, even with polishing and new springs.
If you want an affordable compact 9mm, there is a CZ RAMI on sale in the forum for under 500 right now, and that pistol is far better than the Hawg or the Taurus.
CHI LASCIA LA STRADA VECCHIA PER QUELLA NUOVA SA QUEL CHE PERDE MA NON QUEL CHE TROVA...
There!
If people don't need an ID to vote I don't have to translate my italian, do I ? [Tooth]
HIJACK!
DD977GM2
10-16-2012, 11:07
CHI LASCIA LA STRADA VECCHIA PER QUELLA NUOVA SA QUEL CHE PERDE MA NON QUEL CHE TROVA...
There!
If people don't need an ID to vote I don't have to translate my italian, do I ? [Tooth]
HIJACK!
HUH
WHO LET THE ROAD TO THE OLD NEW SA AS BUT NOT LOSE WHAT IS ...
bellavite1
10-16-2012, 11:13
HUH
Sort of...
He who leaves the old road for the new one knows what he loses but not what he will find...
DD977GM2
10-16-2012, 11:17
Sort of...
He who leaves the old road for the new one knows what he loses but not what he will find...
Damn google translator [ROFL1]
Keep the Taurus............
tmjohnson
10-16-2012, 13:22
I have a Para 16-40, it was made in 1992. The gun works perfectly, digests anything I feed it and spits em out.
I love Taurus 1911's out of all that I have owned and shot they rank # 2. I have owned Colt's Springfield's Para's S&W's Llama's RIA's and Taurus, and have fired just about every major brand. I am sure I am forgetting some that I have owned these are just what comes to mind. My personal favorite was my S&W 1911 that I sold awhile back, next to that I like RIA's then the PT1911. Just my personal preference a lot of people that I have talked to on here and in person do not like the Taurus, but you know what they say about opinions. I even kind of miss my P14 LDA that I had and got ripped off for when I sold it. I cannot explain it there is just something about Taurus and RIA 1911's that I really like. If I do not like this Para I could probably talk my wife into trading for her PT1911, so I really do not think I will do bad. Also this Para is in great shape, does not even look like it has had more than 100 rounds through it. Thanks for the advice guys.
I think you should find a Llama Minimax, and trade it for that. I hear High Points are good also. [Beer]
I think you should find a Llama Minimax, and trade it for that. I hear High Points are good also. [Beer]
I know you're joking here. The Llama Minimax is another pistol that either jams every mag or self destructs within a few hundred rounds . . . but the smaller Llama Micromax in either .380 or .32 is often an excellent inexpensive pistol. Sometimes they need polishing to feed HP reliably, and it is hard to find replacement parts, but I've known several guys who had Micromax pistols which ran perfectly.
I know you're joking here. The Llama Minimax is another pistol that either jams every mag or self destructs within a few hundred rounds . . . but the smaller Llama Micromax in either .380 or .32 is often an excellent inexpensive pistol. Sometimes they need polishing to feed HP reliably, and it is hard to find replacement parts, but I've known several guys who had Micromax pistols which ran perfectly.I have an IX-C and it is not that bad for a brick with a barrel. I have never had a FTF or FTE.
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