Question on .22lr suppressors

[The Rat]

I'm looking at three different models, the Gemtech Outback IID, the SWR Spectre, and the Silencerco Sparrow. My main concern is ease of maintenance and longevity. All three of the above can be taken apart for maintenance, which alleviates that issue.

Silencerco's website makes a big deal about the Sparrow being easy to take down, and that only the outer tube is serialized, meaning that everything else on it is replaceable. The Sparrow looks good at face value, however the Outback IID weighs less than half of the Sparrow and Spectre. If all else is equal in terms of durability and ease of maintenance, the weight saving is very attractive.

How do they all compare? Is there anything that makes one easier than another to take apart and clean?

Not really concerned about the specific db reduction since it's .22; subsonics are gonna sound like a bird fart regardless.

[RCCrawler]

I went with the specter 2, it had the best db reduction, was well built and looked easy to maintain. Haven't gotten to use it yet still waiting on paperwork.

[Great-Kazoo]

If weight is one of the factors for the purchase takek a look at the Thunder Beast Arms Ti units. I have a 4" 22 TBA can, while it is not serviceable you have to do a shit load of 22's before it even comes close to being an issue. You're in ft fun 20 min west of me, stop by.
I have a TBA Ti and a TAC-65 if you would like to road test them. OR contact Alan at MGT, let him know i suggested you contact him.

[ChrisC]

I have a Sparrow and it is very easy to maintain and supresses very well. The (new) Sparrow and Spectre II both have a stainless steel baffle stack where the Outback has an aluminum baffle stack which is why it is lighter. The supressors with stainless steel baffles are usually rated for .22 LR, .22 WMR, 5.7X28, .22 Mag, etc. where as the ones with aluminum baffles are only rated for .22 LR. I am getting ready to add a Spectre II to the family because by all reports it supresses as well as the Sparrow, is a little cheaper and is just as easy to clean. There have also been reports that the First Round Pop (FRP) on the Spectre II is significantly less than the Sparrow, although I don't find the FRP with the Sparrow to be horrible but it is noticeable. I hope this helps.

[hatidua]

All three of the above can be taken apart

-stick with that line of thinking.

[th3w01f]

FWIW SWR is now owned by Silencerco.

I've been trying to decide between the Spectre 2 and Sparrow and I think I'm going to go for the Spectre 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF_xsaJ-iyM

[coop68]

i currently own a the SS sparrow bought it about a month before they announced the spectre II. either one would be a good choice same company. thunder beast would be another choice if you want a light weight can. great company just couldn't find one when i was ready to buy. my purchase came down to which dealer had the can on hand ready to transfer on a forum 3. and i decided i wanted to be able to service the can.

check out www.silencertalk.com (http://www.silencertests.com/)

also sent you a PM if you want to try it out this weekend.

[Delfuego]

Check out Thunderbeast, support the local boys...

http://thunderbeastarms.com/forum/threads/do-i-need-to-clean-my-suppressor-how-often.4/

[The Rat]

Thanks for the offers to try out your suppressors guys. Unfortunately I can't take you up on it since I'm in Afghanistan at the moment. Just wanting to do research so I know roughly which one to get whenever I get home. [Beer]

[RYAN50BMG]

I just want to say something about "replacement parts". ALL parts of a suppressor are regulated by ATF. If you need a part, like an end cap after a bullet strike (ask me how I know) you have to send the whole can back to the mfg. They will not send you a replacement part. Just FYI.

[Irving]

I just want to say something about "replacement parts". ALL parts of a suppressor are regulated by ATF.

Except wipes.

[RYAN50BMG]

You have a can that still uses wipes?

[Irving]

Haha no.

[RYAN50BMG]

So your not going to buy this innertube I have for sale?

[JohnnyEgo]

I've got the Gemtech Outback II. I once attended a panel lecture with Phil Dater. His response to the disassembly craze amongst .22 cans was "How often do you disassemble and clean your muffler".

I don't know where I am at on that approach. My Outback does seem as quiet as the day I bought it. It also seems heavier. But not much.

If you have a host you are thinking of trying it out on, you live close enough to me that I am sure we could arrange a chance for you to try it out and see if it is to your liking.

http://www.johnnyego.com/firearms/1911s/page2/Sig-1911-22a.jpg

[O2HeN2]

"How often do you disassemble and clean your muffler".
How often do you spray partially vaporized molten lead through your muffler?

There are plenty of pictures of ugly 22LR can guts out on the web.

O2

[hatidua]

"How often do you disassemble and clean your muffler".

300 rounds of CCI Standard Velocity ammo, which is supposed to be fairly clean (as .22 ammo's go) -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/hatidua/2_zps829a74b8.jpg

20 minutes with a toothbrush and some solvent:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/hatidua/5_zps15529753.jpg

[JohnnyEgo]

And yet somehow, all the non-disassembly cans in other calibers, like 9mm, 5.56, .45 etc... seem to get by. It's just not that much of an issue for me. Then again, I've only had my can for five or so years and several thousand rounds, so what do I really know.

[hatidua]

And yet somehow, all the non-disassembly cans in other calibers, like 9mm, 5.56, .45 etc... seem to get by.

My various centerfire cans 'get by' because I don't shoot lead bullets through them. Until they come up with a FMJ .22, .22's are going to be more problematic (and a gold 'wash' on a .22 is not jacketed). I wish my centerfire cans were take-apart (many manufacturers are headed in that direction) and might have a few of them "jail broken" which a few places are doing. There really isn't a downside to being able to open up and clean the baffles on a suppressor, be it rimfire or centerfire.


Then again, I've only had my can for five or so years and several thousand rounds, so what do I really know.

'Several thousand rounds' is a good weekend, not five years ;)

[Great-Kazoo]

Hope you were wearing a N95 and gloves while cleaning that can.

[hatidua]

Hope you were wearing a N95 and gloves while cleaning that can.

I run with scissors ;)

[roberth]

I have a Spectre, it runs great, I highly recommend one.

[Great-Kazoo]

I run with scissors ;)

I shave with razor[ROFL1]

[ridgewalker]

The Rat, just wanted to say THANKS for your work in Afghanistan! I just sent another check to USO. Hope you use it. Hope to see you back in the states soon!

[The Rat]

Haha, no need for thanks, I'm one of those dirty nasty contractors.

[Zak Smith]

The idea that a rimfire can must be taken apart to be cleaned is primarily due to experience with aluminum cans which can't be cleaned the same way Ti or steel cans can be. Here is a tech note regarding cleaning our fully welded and sealed Ti rimfire cans
http://thunderbeastarms.com/forum/threads/do-i-need-to-clean-my-suppressor-how-often.4/