Next AWB?

[two shoes]

I know the words that flowed out of POTUS mouth just allowed me to get another upper kit! The Mrs was watching and said "is there any parts you need to get?"

By far the best thing the guy has done for me personally.

[AR15][Flower]

[Great-Kazoo]

I happen to have a post-preban, ban free lower and you're local.
Judging by the panty wadding regarding ability to buy anything tomorrow, with out a long wait, just screwed you out of an affordable lower.
But i'm reasonable and open to offers:)

[hatidua]

a post-preban, ban free lower

[Shock]

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Does he have enough backers for this?

[DFBrews]

Ppbbfl....lots oh letters

[TAR31]

Good thing I have 5 unbuilt lowers in my.... I mean I need to get certified for scuba diving.

[CO303]

I think I'm ok. I have receivers in the shop.

[Great-Kazoo]

Does he have enough backers for this?

You really need to ask?. The gun ban crowd will be in full force on every media outlet, supporting O and his quest to disarm America.

Also expect DBrown and the NRA to mail bomb you.

[KevDen2005]

Glad I got everything I have. I was thinking about the possibility or need of getting extra parts and maybe stocking up on those.

[BPTactical]

Does he have enough backers for this?

Since when does backing mean a damn thing to him?

[CO303]

Was anyone really surprised to hear that? We've all known O would push that position in a second term. That's been expected for a long time.

[dwalker460]

I think most of use were suprised to hear him actually say it this close to the election.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

I'm sorry but pardon my ignorance. I was just a wee chitlin when the previous AWB was passed. Did Clinton just instate it, or did it have to be voted on by congress?

[TAR31]

Was anyone really surprised to hear that? We've all known O would push that position in a second term. That's been expected for a long time.
Yes, I was honestly surprised to hear him actually say it. I know he has never believed the sheeple need to own guns but never thought he would come out and say anything before the election.

[DD977GM2]

I'm sorry but pardon my ignorance. I was just a wee chitlin when the previous AWB was passed. Did Clinton just instate it, or did it have to be voted on by congress?

It went through the house and senate then shitstain signed it.

It can happen and scares he crap out of me [Rant1][Bang]

[sniper7]

Executive Orders. then congress has to undo them. obama believes he is above the law. look at F&F, look at his quest to get rid of Bushs 11th hour of letting concealed carry in national parks. he finally had to accept it.

this could end up the same case for Romney, maybe...maybe not. give him 4 more years to figure it out and it is a pretty damn good possibility.

[BPTactical]

I'm sorry but pardon my ignorance. I was just a wee chitlin when the previous AWB was passed. Did Clinton just instate it, or did it have to be voted on by congress?

It was passed by Congress.
But this administration has made it VERY clear that Congress is an impediment to their agenda.

[sniper7]

NRA will be all over this as well. definitely just increased their membership and donations.

If it gets brought up seriously again...I can think it may have very well sealed obamas fate of losing.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Thanks for the knowledge. I think I'm gonna be proactive and just sell my firearms now.

[ray1970]

I think most of use were suprised to hear him actually say it this close to the election.

I'm not surprised. He realizes people who understand the need for the right of the citizens to arm themselves would never vote for him anyways. In other words, he knew he wouldn't be losing any votes by making the statement. One of those "nothing to lose, everything to gain" kind of things.

[hollohas]

Unfortunatly for me, I only get to make a firearm purchase once a year...when I get my year end bonus.

This year I wanted another AR. I don't see that happening now. Even if he looses, I expect the buying frenzy his comments tonight will likely create, is going to make them and most other guns hard to find (at a realistic price) for a year at least. Thanks a lot Obummer.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Time to sell.. not to buy! [Tooth]

[CO303]

I'm not surprised. He realizes people who understand the need for the right of the citizens to arm themselves would never vote for him anyways. In other words, he knew he wouldn't be losing any votes by making the statement. One of those "nothing to lose, everything to gain" kind of things.

I think you;re right. We're Obama's 47%. The guns and religion people.

[BPTactical]

I am not surprised in the least, he said near the exact same words at his nomination here in Denver at the DNC in 07.
He just waited until he had nothing to lose to bring it up again.
Yup, he has nothing to lose.........
I've long said no matter what we will see a change to our 2A at the hands of BHO.
If he wins he has nothing to lose.
If he loses he has nothing to lose.

[Ridge]

I'll probably be able to buy that new car with the money I make off my AK next Tanner...

[ChunkyMonkey]

I'll probably be able to buy that new car with the money I make off my AK next Tanner...

arghhh You are letting go an appreciating asset to buy a depreciating one [Kick1]

[ray1970]

Heck, I might have to go adjust the price on my item in the "for sale" section. [Coffee]

[Ridge]

arghhh You are letting go an appreciating asset to buy a depreciating one [Kick1]

Yeah, but have you seen my current depreciating asset?

http://i.imgur.com/m3OkFl.jpg

That's BEFORE the accident that totalled it!

[ChunkyMonkey]

Ouch.. sorry didnt know.

[ray1970]

Yeah, but have you seen my current depreciating asset?

http://i.imgur.com/m3OkFl.jpg


That was a car any teenage girl would be proud to own. [Coffee]

[hollohas]

Dang you guys. I have been planning (dreaming about) my next gun purchase for the last year, as I save up some cash. But now you hooligans are going to be asking $10k for all the good stuff in the trading post.

[BooHoo]

[theGinsue]

I missed the debate. Is pushing for a new Congressionally passed law (the Constitutional way), or did he enact another Executive Order?

[Ridge]

I missed the debate. Is pushing for a new Congressionally passed law (the Constitutional way), or did he enact another Executive Order?

They both really suggested enforcing existing laws, but also restricting assault weapons. Didn't say how. I'll be optimistic and assume the congressional way.

[rockhound]

Since when does backing mean a damn thing to him?


i smell an executive order on the way, covered in more of his bs

[roberth]

i smell an executive order on the way, covered in more of his bs

Yup.

I don't think an (R) House will open a new AWB. I think if The Failure wants an AWB he'll have to go the EO route.

This is why it is important that conservatives win more seats in the House and Senate, so stuff like AWB does not get started and so we can get EOs repealed.

[Ridge]

Yup.

I don't think an (R) House will open a new AWB. I think if The Failure wants an AWB he'll have to go the EO route.

This is why it is important that conservatives win more seats in the House and Senate, so stuff AWB does not get started and so we can get EOs repealed.

I only see two problems with this:

1) The GOP is not conservative
2) The GOP in the House have not done anything other than bicker for the past 2 years. I hate to use the word, but they HAVE been obstructive. While it's not necessarily bad, they have used their time there to swear to slow down or stop everything Obama does. Whether it be good or bad. They've put more effort into stopping anything Obama supports than actually trying to fix the problems they were elected to work on.

[oinco]

disclosure: I didn't watch the terds being pinched (debate) last night, but it would seem from the quotes I read this morning- if they both were elected it would be a dead heat race to eschew any/all portions of the constitution, and the 2A is on deck early.

I hear the second stanza of the funeral dirge for America right now.

[roberth]

I only see two problems with this:

1) The GOP is not conservative
2) The GOP in the House have not done anything other than bicker for the past 2 years. I hate to use the word, but they HAVE been obstructive. While it's not necessarily bad, they have used their time there to swear to slow down or stop everything Obama does. Whether it be good or bad. They've put more effort into stopping anything Obama supports than actually trying to fix the problems they were elected to work on.

1) I agree, people like me make the GOP more conservative but the GOP is still a socialist organ right now.
2) I don't mind the obstruction and that obstruction is a 2 way street. Remember that Harry Reid wouldn't even bring the Ryan budget up for any kind of vote in the Senate.

[BUC303]

I'm not surprised. He realizes people who understand the need for the right of the citizens to arm themselves would never vote for him anyways. In other words, he knew he wouldn't be losing any votes by making the statement. One of those "nothing to lose, everything to gain" kind of things.


Well I actually know of one vote he lost last night....my brothers. He went to school in Boulder and has been living there for years. They converted him to be an Obama zombie on almost all issues except gun rights, since he still loves to hunt and shoot. Sent him a nice text during the debate last night and welcomed him to the party. I can only hope there are more like him.
[Beer]

[BPTactical]

One thing that has been overlooked as far as a potential ban would go:
In D.C. v Heller the Scotus clearly stated " a ban on a "class" of firearm violates the Second Amendment. The total ban of handgun possession amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of "arms" that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self defense. (handgun is used here in context as that is what was at the heart of the Heller case)
Now if one applies this logic:
What is the overwhelming choice of rifle (if you go by sales numbers) recently?
The AR platform.
Heller really makes it difficult to LAWFULLY ban a "class" of firearm.

[Great-Kazoo]

One thing that has been overlooked as far as a potential ban would go:
In D.C. v Heller the Scotus clearly stated " a ban on a "class" of firearm violates the Second Amendment. The total ban of handgun possession amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of "arms" that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self defense. (handgun is used here in context as that is what was at the heart of the Heller case)
Now if one applies this logic:
What is the overwhelming choice of rifle (if you go by sales numbers) recently?
The AR platform.
Heller really makes it difficult to LAWFULLY ban a "class" of firearm.


PROVIDING he does not get re elected. Stacking the SCOTUS in his favor would negate any gains. Just keep voting your conscious people, vote your conscious. [Bang]

[BPTactical]

PROVIDING he does not get re elected. Stacking the SCOTUS in his favor would negate any gains. Just keep voting your conscious people, vote your conscious. [Bang]

Agreed, potential replacement of SCOTUS Judges is in fact the most compelling reason for Romney to be elected. The rest of the reasons are negotiable as they are dynamic and change on a daily basis.
SCOTUS is long term and has more effect on the nation than what bobble head is sitting at a desk any given 4 years.

[Ronin13]

PROVIDING he does not get re elected. Stacking the SCOTUS in his favor would negate any gains. Just keep voting your conscious people, vote your conscious. [Bang]

Yes, this scares me... What happens when all of those vital 2A decisions get overturned? If Obamageddon get's reelected I feel like I'm going to be saying Molon Labe a lot more often.[Bang]

[HoneyBadger]

One thing that has been overlooked as far as a potential ban would go:
In D.C. v Heller the Scotus clearly stated " a ban on a "class" of firearm violates the Second Amendment. The total ban of handgun possession amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of "arms" that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self defense. (handgun is used here in context as that is what was at the heart of the Heller case)
Now if one applies this logic:
What is the overwhelming choice of rifle (if you go by sales numbers) recently?
The AR platform.
Heller really makes it difficult to LAWFULLY ban a "class" of firearm.


Key word is "lawfully"

In any case, they don't have to activate an outright ban on anything... just make it harder to get. Registrations, tracking, serial numbers, fees, taxes, background checks, foreground checks, etc.... you get the idea.

[BlasterBob]

Key word is "lawfully"

In any case, they don't have to activate an outright ban on anything... just make it harder to get. Registrations, tracking, serial numbers, fees, taxes, background checks, foreground checks, etc.... you get the idea.


And they COULD tax the hell out of ammo and components and just let us keep our firearms. 2A covers the firearms but NOT the ammo - right? .[Rant1]

[BPTactical]

This is the crux of the subject - we all know just how much this administration relies on "Regulation". It is very possible to regulate something into the realm of "Unobtainium"[Bang]

[HoneyBadger]

And they COULD tax the hell out of ammo and components and just let us keep our firearms. 2A covers the firearms but NOT the ammo - right? .[Rant1]

How does the government regulate tobacco? $1.00 of federal taxes and an average state tax of $1.55 per pack.

The real question is "When will the ammo tax take effect?"

[Rust_shackleford]

Welcome to the New World Order

[Great-Kazoo]

How does the government regulate tobacco? $1.00 of federal taxes and an average state tax of $1.55 per pack.

The real question is "When will the ammo tax take effect?"

The answer is, Who cares!
OR as the spousal unit says. Without ammo all you have is an expensive boat paddle.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u129/51jim/100_0801_zps2155edb7.jpg

[Jer]

I seem to remember some promises given by this very politician this time 4 years ago in order to get elected the first time: Closing Gitmo, Allowing the Patriot Act to sunset, Repeal Bush Tax cuts, Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners, allow imported prescription drugs, sign the freedom of choice act & introduce a comprehensiveness immigration bill the first year. I could go on and believe me, there are PAGES of this crap but I think the point is made. This AWB wasn't even a promise and we've seen his track record for keeping promises.

[SouthPaw]

I seem to remember some promises given by this very politician this time 4 years ago in order to get elected the first time: Closing Gitmo, Allowing the Patriot Act to sunset, Repeal Bush Tax cuts, Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners, allow imported prescription drugs, sign the freedom of choice act & introduce a comprehensiveness immigration bill the first year. I could go on and believe me, there are PAGES of this crap but I think the point is made. This AWB wasn't even a promise and we've seen his track record for keeping promises.

Kind of my same thinking. Out of all the things he promised in the first year we got Obummer care in four years.

[HoneyBadger]

The answer is, Who cares!
OR as the spousal unit says. Without ammo all you have is an expensive boat paddle.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u129/51jim/100_0801_zps2155edb7.jpg

Jim, We're not all so lucky... I probably won't have a reloading bench for another year or two and by then, who knows how expensive the components will be. And first things first: Next March I'm going to have a new mouth to feed (I'll know if its a boy or girl in about 3 weeks!) and my priorities are going to have to change significantly. More money spent on baby toys, less money spent on daddy toys... you get the picture.

[Uberjager]

Is that from the debate last night? Or did Obummer mention it more recently?

[BlasterBob]

How does the government regulate tobacco? $1.00 of federal taxes and an average state tax of $1.55 per pack.

The real question is "When will the ammo tax take effect?"

WHEN?? Probably much sooner than expected, not that I am looking forward to it or promoting it by any means.[Coffee]

[sniper7]

PROVIDING he does not get re elected. Stacking the SCOTUS in his favor would negate any gains. Just keep voting your conscious people, vote your conscious. [Bang]

yep. all it takes is to bring it up again to SCOTUS after obama gets to select 1-2 more judges like Kegan and Sotomayer and you can kiss the heller decision goodbye plus reverse any notion that a militia includes all people.