STOMP med bag contents v1.1

[Wulf202]

I don't usually divulge specifics but I'm trying to help and turn over a new leaf and all that shit. I was reviewing my med bag tonight before class tomorrow so I'm sharing.

Open to comments but if you're suggesting more gear it better be light and small or replace something in the bag. Clearly some of the items are specific to my family. Numbers in parenthesis indicate quantity

http://i.imgur.com/Q5558.jpg
Outside- 7.5” emt shears
Inside front-
(2) N95 flat pack masks
Pro gone click it hand sanitizers in factory ziplock
Zipper pull compass
Resqme zipper pull
Asherman chest seal
Oral airway pack
(2) h&h wound seals
28F NPA with lube
6mm cuffed et tube and 10cc syringe
(4) quick clot 1st responder

http://i.imgur.com/uv780.jpg
Outside front loops-
Minisharpe
Curved hemostats
Bandage shears
Long hemostats
Short hemostats
Aligator hemostats
(3) pair gloves
Strealmight stylus light in ziplock
Life gear battery glow stick/flashlight/wistle
(2) glow sticks
Coreless roll of duct tape
2” tape
(2) 1” rolls of tape
Small duct tape roll
z pack combat gauze
(2) rolled combat gauze
(8) compressed gauze
Energizer head lamp in ziplock
Albuterol inhaler (prescribed to me)
Tk-4
Tk4-L
(2) CAT
EMS Field Guide BLS Version
Write in the rain 3x5
Klein 8” dikes
Olaes 4” bandage
Big cinch bandage
(3) super combat cravat
Adsafe cpr mask w/gloves in case

http://i.imgur.com/GRZnX.jpg
Back personal pouch-
Gloves
(2) 3cc needles
Fish Flox
Betadine in dropper in ziplock
Tweezerman very pointy tips
Small screwdriver
(2) rolls ½” tape
#10 disposable scalpel
#11 disposable scalpel
14ga catheter needle
(2) mre heaters
Mre drink bag
(3) superglue gel
Baby powder 1 ½ oz
Glasses repair screws
Small half serrated pocket knife
Disposable razor
Peanut lighter
(2) pair earplugs
Mre spoon
Baby soap 1oz in ziplock
Spare batteries (2) aa (4) aaa (5) cr2032
curved nail clippers

http://i.imgur.com/JPBUs.jpg
IV pouch-
(2) heavy black trash bags
XL knee brace (this is mine, I occasionally have a trick knee issue)
S ankle brace (this is hers, she has bad ankles and occasionally requires these)
Actidose-aqua poison adsorbent in ziplock
(2) 3” ace
(2) 4” ace
(2) contact solution/eyewash
2” coflex

http://i.imgur.com/zVjlt.jpg
Back lower-
Water jel 2x6 dressing
Water jel arm dressing
Burn jel 4 oz in a ziplock
(3) h&h compressed gauze
Suction easy kit in factory ziplock
BP cuff
Stethoscope
Bifocal safety glasses in case and cloth

http://i.imgur.com/teS5L.jpg
Back panel-
Emergency blanket
Sam splint generic
Triangle bandage w 2 safety pins
Large instant cold pack
Adult C collar
Child C collar
Folding stretcher
Boo boo kit

http://i.imgur.com/2j3bu.jpg
Boo boo kit-
(2) AB pad in gallon ziplock
(2) tongue depressors
(4) tampons
(3) flosser pick things
Emmory board
Safety pins
pack dental tools
(5) cotton swabs
(2) playtex wipes
(9) hair ties
(15) gas relief pills 125mg
(16) caffeine pills 200mg
(2) emergenC 1000mg
(9) antiseptic wipes
(5) single use antibiotic ointment
(4) small hand warmers
(9) alcohol prep pads
Blistex
(4) single use antibiotic with aloe
(12) anti-diarrheal pills 2mg
(4) prilosec otc 20.6mg
(36) diphen 25mg (benydryl)
(4) cold eze lozenges in small ziplock
(6) soap towlettes
(6) 3packs 1/4x3in
(8) 2packs of 4x4 sponges in ziplock
(10) Hydration mix
(4) 3-0 silk sutures
(4) 4-0 PGA sutures
Small cold pack
Moleskin
Gloves
(3) rolls tums
Generic sam splint
Floss
Ear thermometer
Aspirin
Glucose tabs
Bug spray pen .5oz
Benadryl itch pen
Antibiotic cream with pain relief .5 oz
Adventure medical Dental medic kit in factory ziplock
(4) wisps
Small irrigation bulb
Misc Band-Aids eye pads and mre TP in a dry bag (super ziplock)


Pending additions:
Water atleast a qt
More duct tape
More gloves
Remove C collars
More SAM splint
IV's -Script item
Epi -pen Script item
O2 -script item.
Bag balm
Halo's when the H&H chest seals expire, ditch the asherman on expiration
A better stethoscope when I can afford it
Work gloves
Mucinex
zyrtec
pulse ox

A few insights
Use quickclots and don't replace them unless with combat gauze
Z pack combat gauze is vacuumed tight, rolls are puffy only buy z pack
Z fold gauze could be worth the extra 25 cents
If an item has only one use it's very important, most are chosen for multiple uses.

[docneuey]

Fellow Medic nerd here, like what you have so far. Not a huge fan of the S.T.O.M.P. (any iteration) simply for its size, I rock an M9 bag now, sleeker and able to D-ring into a ruck sack for moving on foot.
The things that should be considered for medical supplies is the overall intent of said item. Having worked as an EMT-I and deployed as a 68W, I know certain interventions are really only to buy time, that's the crux of emergency medicine.
The biggest things that come to mind are tension pneumothorax interventious, such as 14ga needle and caths, or ashermans and H&H seals. If someone has a punctured lung, sealing the thoracic cavity is dandy, but you're not doing anything to fix the lung. The patient will need hi-flow O2 and positive-pressure ventillation, something you can't so with a backpack.
I guess it can't hurt, just in case you feel like saving a life in a car-wreck, but if you're prepping for a "without rule of law" scenario, even tourniquets will be useless when people see how serious infections can ruin a weekend.
These are just my opinions, anything you can do to combat fever or control bleeding are essential, get some good suture practice in now, it's pretty easy. Also, IVs are a must, ignore the expiration.
Sorry, I'll stop rambling. Awesome kit, maybe I am just assuming it's for Z-day when it's not.

[roberth]

I don't know jack about med kits but that looks really good to me.

What does a kit like that run? You guys could probably start a business building and selling nice kits like that.

[Wulf202]

Fellow Medic nerd here, like what you have so far. Not a huge fan of the S.T.O.M.P. (any iteration) simply for its size, I rock an M9 bag now, sleeker and able to D-ring into a ruck sack for moving on foot.
The things that should be considered for medical supplies is the overall intent of said item. Having worked as an EMT-I and deployed as a 68W, I know certain interventions are really only to buy time, that's the crux of emergency medicine.
The biggest things that come to mind are tension pneumothorax interventious, such as 14ga needle and caths, or ashermans and H&H seals. If someone has a punctured lung, sealing the thoracic cavity is dandy, but you're not doing anything to fix the lung. The patient will need hi-flow O2 and positive-pressure ventillation, something you can't so with a backpack.
I guess it can't hurt, just in case you feel like saving a life in a car-wreck, but if you're prepping for a "without rule of law" scenario, even tourniquets will be useless when people see how serious infections can ruin a weekend.
These are just my opinions, anything you can do to combat fever or control bleeding are essential, get some good suture practice in now, it's pretty easy. Also, IVs are a must, ignore the expiration.
Sorry, I'll stop rambling. Awesome kit, maybe I am just assuming it's for Z-day when it's not.

General aw shit kit. The problem with o2/IV's is that I need a script. This is not intended as a portable hospital, I don't have the experience or training for that level. I have more options at home but when I do road trips or range time this comes with.

I have smaller kits but this is the big one. Almost too big for most things, the stomp was cheap though.

There is no way I can sufficiently prepare for medical needs on Z-day with my level of income.

Trying to find a suture class so I can get good basics to start with.


I don't know jack about med kits but that looks really good to me.

What does a kit like that run? You guys could probably start a business building and selling nice kits like that.

I pieced it together spending my gun budget every month, if I had to venture a guess I'd say $700 but that's probly low. CAT's are $25 ea, combat gauze around $50ea =`$200 right there. Some of it was gifts or I've had laying around for years. Still cheaper than a new rifle and it's more likely to save my ass than another gun.

Cmilliard would be the person I'd talk to about getting a kit if you're interested

[Fentonite]

Very well thought out! Nice job. (PM sent)

[275RLTW]

-more TQs ( I carry at least 4 on my kit)
-more chest seals
-ziplocks (various sizes)
-regular thermomoter (one that doesn't require batteries and can be used in infants/food/etc...)
-sharpie markers
-BVM
-bottled water
-cold compress
-hand/foot warmers


lose the ET tube & IV gear. If you cannot give O2 then you are not trained enough to intubate or stick someone; you'll do more damage than good not to mention the criminal suit to follow.

[Wulf202]

-more TQs ( I carry at least 4 on my kit)
-more chest seals
-ziplocks (various sizes)
-regular thermomoter (one that doesn't require batteries and can be used in infants/food/etc...)
-sharpie markers
-BVM
-bottled water
-cold compress
-hand/foot warmers


lose the ET tube & IV gear. If you cannot give O2 then you are not trained enough to intubate or stick someone; you'll do more damage than good not to mention the criminal suit to follow.
I have 4 tourniquets on the loop panel, a bp cuff farther back

I have 3 chest seals in packaging that can also be used for a chest seal and duct tape, I can improvise probly 15 chest seals out of items in the kit, possibly more. I'll order a pair of HALO's next time I order med gear.

There are more than a dozen ziplocks used as water proofing thru-out the kit, most are not mentioned. I've corrected this in the original list.

Suggestions on a specific thermometer? I chose that one for general care, I have no infants. I'm avoiding anything glass due to the rough treatment this may receive.

Have one sharpie in the kit in the loop panel and one in my left front pocket, intend to pick up a red or green mini one during x mas.

BVM- please elaborate? They don't even teach to breath for the person anymore.

Bottles break and leak, I'll be getting lifeboat pouches next time I place an order or park city water bladders when I can find them.

there are 2 cold compresses already one large stored in the back panel outside of boo boo kit, one medium inside the boo boo kit.

there are 4 hand/foot warmers in the boo boo kit and 2 mre meal heaters in the personals section.

ET tube stays and the only IV gear is a 14ga cath needle for chest decompression which also stays. I've stated this before in another thread in response to the comments you have for these type of items, I believe it's better to have it and not need it. They are obviously a last resort. If you want further justification my shooting buddies include an EMT, an OR nurse, a CNA and lots of combat life savers. All have permission to use the items on me if I need it. You won't be able to change my mind on these items.

[ChunkyMonkey]

BVM as in valve mask I think.

EDIT.. nevermind. Comprehension failure. :)

[275RLTW]

ET tube stays and the only IV gear is a 14ga cath needle for chest decompression which also stays. I've stated this before in another thread in response to the comments you have for these type of items, I believe it's better to have it and not need it. They are obviously a last resort. If you want further justification my shooting buddies include an EMT, an OR nurse, a CNA and lots of combat life savers. All have permission to use the items on me if I need it. You won't be able to change my mind on these items.

Neither of them can or will use either of those items as they are both outside their scope of practice. Wasted space... You're carrying a lawsuit around with you everywhere that bag goes. As long as you are aware of the consequenses; it's your ass. I agree with doing anything to save a family member but people at the range are not your responsibility, especially as YOU are not a trained and licensed provider.

[lead_magnet]

I would keep them in there, no harm in having them. I'm assuming that the kit isn't just for the shooting range, and could be part of this guys bug-out/in system.

The same could be said about the inhaler. If you let someone else use it is that a huge liability? Yep. is it illegal? Yep. Have I ever done that? Yep. (knew the guy personally and knew he had asthma, not something I would do for average Joe, that's what ambulances are for) For that matter carrying a gun is like walking around with a lawsuit if used incorrectly, sometimes even when used correctly, but it could save someone's life. Risk vs. Reward and common sense play big parts here.

[NightCat]

...holy gear batman..

[275RLTW]

I would keep them in there, no harm in having them. I'm assuming that the kit isn't just for the shooting range, and could be part of this guys bug-out/in system.

The same could be said about the inhaler. If you let someone else use it is that a huge liability? Yep. is it illegal? Yep. Have I ever done that? Yep. (knew the guy personally and knew he had asthma, not something I would do for average Joe, that's what ambulances are for) For that matter carrying a gun is like walking around with a lawsuit if used incorrectly, sometimes even when used correctly, but it could save someone's life. Risk vs. Reward and common sense play big parts here.

He doesn't even have a scope & blades to properly place the tube...kind of like carrying a spare magazine with no ammo in it...please tell me the common sense there? He needs to quit trying to be something he's not.

[lead_magnet]

Didn't catch the ET tube part, just saw the NPA. Yeah, an ET tube is pretty much useless without the kit. The NPA is realitively harmless, ET tubes are no joke. I wouldn't want to try that, I'd be too afraid of breaking off someones teeth (the dummy we practiced on was toothless, lmao). Decompression needle one might be able to figure out with basic instruction...maybe.

[spleify]

Wow, that is one hell of a kit!

[Wulf202]

He doesn't even have a scope & blades to properly place the tube...kind of like carrying a spare magazine with no ammo in it...please tell me the common sense there? He needs to quit trying to be something he's not.

They're out of my price range and budget currently. There are other uses for an et tube than the hospital setting. I have no problem admitting it is above my pay grade though.

[towerhog]

I know this is a bit old, but I carry a Combitube in my kit for airway management... another option is the King LT

here's a neat page about them http://www.airwaycam.com/other-devices.html

[275RLTW]

I know this is a bit old, but I carry a Combitube in my kit for airway management... another option is the King LT

here's a neat page about them http://www.airwaycam.com/other-devices.html

Good items but again, have to be EMT-I or above to use legally in the US or face assault charges. If you don't have a BVM, then you're not following approved methods for using the device.

[encorehunter]

Good items but again, have to be EMT-I or above to use legally in the US or face assault charges. If you don't have a BVM, then you're not following approved methods for using the device.

EMT-Bs are now allowed to place a King tube in Colorado, but you still have to have the BVM.

[towerhog]

EMT-Bs are now allowed to place a King tube in Colorado, but you still have to have the BVM.

Yep...

I totally agree with what coloccw has said about these devices, however I'm in the camp that I'll use whatever I need to help family and loved-ones.

[Batteriesnare]

EMT-Bs are now allowed to place a King tube in Colorado, but you still have to have the BVM.

Both true. Just picked up a pocket BVM, yet to try it but it looks like a good item to have along.

[mdsmd]

Great info I am always looking for more tips and ideas for my med bag.