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Looks like its going to be an interesting week on the east coast. As per usual the stores are sold out while everyone tries to prepare....... Days before the storm.
Great-Kazoo
10-27-2012, 08:29
I know this "threat" spurred my BIL & Sister to finally obtain a generator. Small steps are better than standing still.
IMO: Living in very large metro areas people have become use to the convenience of everything within 1-2 blocks from home, food, pharmacies, supply stores etc. Remove that ease of access and they either prepare or Panic.
I fear for the media on future storms: once you have used terms such as "frankenstorm" and "apocalyptic convergence", what terms remain for storms after this?!
Every time the news celebrities start blabbing about ZOMG http://www.animateit.net/data/media/nov2011/607b46b77156.gif PANIC STORM COMING!!!! I basically tune them out. If a snowstorm is the most newsworthy thing they can find, they need to find a new job. Granted, this storm could be significant, but the last 15 years or so they have overhyped every storm that's come along. Except maybe Katrina, and that was just poor planning on the part of New Orleans, the Army Corps of Engineers, and FEMA, not to mention that almost nobody was prepared to begin with. If people weren't so dependent on the .gov in the first place, these storms would not be newsworthy. Hell, the first thing I did when we had that big snowstorm in the spring a few years back (40ish inches in a couple of days in Aurora) was dig out a path to the hot tub. Got to have your priorities straight...[LOL]
ETA: http://www.animateit.net/data/media/august2009/o_m_g.gif
Hell, the first thing I did when we had that big snowstorm in the spring a few years back (40ish inches in a couple of days in Aurora) was dig out a path to the hot tub. Got to have your priorities straight...[LOL]
- I dug a path through the snow from my back door to the closest pine tree in my yard so my dogs had a vertical object to aim at when nature called. Does that make me a prepper or a survivalist...?
What if the 2 storms are spawned and controlled by the gov't in order to postpone the election?
Conspiracies gotta be big!!!
SuperiorDG
10-27-2012, 13:03
http://www.avalonpier.com/images/avalonpic.jpg
Live Prier Cam (http://www.avalonpier.com/piercam.html) This is where I would be surfing if I were young and back where I grew up. I need to check in with family and friends to see what's going on back there.
hammer03
10-27-2012, 13:45
Wonder what will happen if people can't/don't get to the polls? Or the mail is washed away?
I'm sure as heck glad I dont live there anymore!!!
We allways lost power at the slightest breeze,let alone any major storms.
The last major storm we dealt with was in October-Irene and a freak snowstorm Holoween-we lost power for over 3 weeks and the day of the snowstorm took me 7 hors to get home where normaly it would only take me a hour.
Definitly dont miss it...
I'm sure as heck glad I dont live there anymore!!!
We allways lost power at the slightest breeze,let alone any major storms.
The last major storm we dealt with was in October-Irene and a freak snowstorm Holoween-we lost power for over 3 weeks and the day of the snowstorm took me 7 hors to get home where normaly it would only take me a hour.
Definitly dont miss it...
Wait until we get real snow here. You'll be amazed at the complete loss of driving skill. [Stooge]
Seriously, the news celebs here will hype a 6 inch snowstorm into a "major storm" and 8 inches becomes a "dangerous blizzard". Gimme a break...I walked to school (all of about 3/4 mile) in more snow than that. The influx of Commiefornians and Texicans, combined with the general pussification of the populace has made driving in the snow an absolute nightmare over the last 30 years around here...[Rant1]
ChadAmberg
10-28-2012, 09:38
Looks like the storm is going to hit dead on where I used to live, but where my parents and many friend still live. The one icon showing the eye of the storm projected track is right on top of my parents house.
My one buddy has about 100 liters of fresh water stored, a ton of water stored in 2liter bottles for sanitary uses, a couple water bobs for use in the tubs if needed. He's got a small generator for critical needs, lots of canned foods, etc. He has been taking preparedness seriously the last few years, which is great.
One thing I see that he hasn't prepared for is cooking. He doesn't even have a grill, let alone a small propane burner. He has gas to the stove, so that's much more reliable than electric, but still a possible issue.
Now, he works for the power company, and will be working 12hr shifts during the emergency starting tonight. That leads to a second possible issue: he won't be home, can his wife work the generator to keep the fridge running as needed? She's a smart one which is good, but unless he's taken the time to show her how it all works, that could be an issue.
Now my parents on the other hand. They were down in Myrtle Beach, and were trying to figure out what to do. My Dad just thought "insurance will fix everything, let's stay here" but Mom thought to head back for a few critical things and to take "flyable" items off the porch and deck, so they came back. They have a log home so it will take a bigger storm than this to knock it down. The plan is now to wait until the storm passes, and if the power goes out, load up the fridge contents into coolers, jump in the car, and head back down to South Carolina. After a few days the power will come back on and they'll head back.
Every minor snowstorm on the east coast is hilarious to watch though. As soon as the weatherman predicts snow, people jump in their cars to go to the grocery store and stock up on milk, bread, and diapers. They don't know why, and even a 22 year old virgin bachelor will grab bags of huggies. It's instinct they don't know why they do it. And once the "necessities" gets low in stock, the fists start flying. Power lines go down everywhere by the time the first snowflakes hit the ground. You're guaranteed to be without power for at least 4-6 hours. It's ridiculous how poorly prepared most everyone is out there.
Every minor snowstorm on the east coast is hilarious to watch though. As soon as the weatherman predicts snow, people jump in their cars to go to the grocery store and stock up on milk, bread, and diapers. They don't know why, and even a 22 year old virgin bachelor will grab bags of huggies.
...ah yes, those dastardly storms that would come through NC when I lived there. One of them dropped nearly a full 2" of snow. The horrors. Each TV station was sure to have a segment at the local grocery store showing empty shelves.
Additionally, with each Winter storm, it seems as though every SUV owner had to see how far he/she could crash their vehicle through the woods after sliding off the highway. Apparently SUV's aren't immune from wrecks but not a single dealer back there divulges that info to the buyers.
Mick-Boy
10-28-2012, 10:11
Like an idiot I'm flying right into it. I'll be just off the Chesapeake Bay teaching a class at ITI. I made sure to pack extra cold weather gear, medical supplies and two water purifiers in addition to my normal gear. It should be an adventure. [Coffee]
SuperiorDG
10-28-2012, 12:02
Like an idiot I'm flying right into it. I'll be just off the Chesapeake Bay teaching a class at ITI. I made sure to pack extra cold weather gear, medical supplies and two water purifiers in addition to my normal gear. It should be an adventure. [Coffee]
You should be GTG by tomorrow, the wind will be out of the West by then. [Beer]
SuperiorDG
10-28-2012, 12:14
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/302778_366430656776727_1748137709_n.jpg
Facebook photos from NC
StagLefty
10-28-2012, 13:17
Good preppers have no need to go to the store right before a storm hits. JMHO
jerrymrc
10-28-2012, 13:35
Good preppers have no need to go to the store right before a storm hits. JMHO
This is true. It is also a teachable moment for those that might not be on-board with your plans.
As Hurricane Sandy stayed on track to barrel the East Coast, states of emergency were declared from North Carolina to Connecticut, with residents being evacuated, schools and transit systems shut and food and supplies flying off store shelves in a sure sign people were preparing for the worst.
And in northern Virginia, a cashier at Pitkins Ace Hardware in Dale City said batteries, flashlights and candles were flying off the shelves, PotomacLocal.com reports.
In New York City, where residents were also packing stores to buy storm-related supplies,
Good preppers have no need to go to the store right before a storm hits. JMHO
So true!!
It was nice to sit home and listen to the news and hear what bs I was missing!Plus it gave me a chance to clean my toys,like I needed a reason[Tooth]
tactical_2012
10-28-2012, 18:39
This will be an interesting one to watch they are predicting 10 million + without power for at least a week. I'm going to use this to get my wife totally on board for preping been easing her into it but I think this just might help get her on board
Buckaroobonsai
10-30-2012, 17:48
Flooding would test any Prepper's plans. That would seriously suck...
[scuba]
Great-Kazoo
10-30-2012, 19:11
Everyone but my dad and 1 sister have generators. Some with some w/out electricity. My nephew is on duty dealing with that crane in madhatten.
One has no house, under 10' of water others neighbors tree on new car. Oh well better then their roof, or head.
The interesting aspect is how many areas of the east coast where people were basically ordered to stay off the roads. I understand the need to maintain safety for all plus minimize issues foe emergency and repair vehicles. BUT Ordered to stay indoors vs Common sense and not go out.
OOPS Common sense and humanity, never mind......
jerrymrc
10-30-2012, 20:02
It just astounds me some of the comments I read. "I always eat out but I guess I have to learn how to cook since the gas is still on in my apt" Said the man buying pasta and sauce at a market.
"I tried to but some food but the CC machine is not working because the powers out. I went down the street to the ATM and it was not working as well. What am I supposed to do now?"[Bang]
"People were huddled around outlets charging there phones at a place that had power"
Each time hurricanes would hit in Florida when I lived there, it was always amazing to me that while some had lost their homes and all their belongings, others just received a windfall of new business as a result of the storm (clean-up, reconstruction, etc).
Although many people got hit pretty hard by Sandy, a friend sent me this link with 37 photos & videos of people in Sandy's path that made the most of the ocean conditions:
http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/tracking-sandy-part-two_78053/
SuperiorDG
10-31-2012, 08:08
Each time hurricanes would hit in Florida when I lived there, it was always amazing to me that while some had lost their homes and all their belongings, others just received a windfall of new business as a result of the storm (clean-up, reconstruction, etc).
Although many people got hit pretty hard by Sandy, a friend sent me this link with 37 photos & videos of people in Sandy's path that made the most of the ocean conditions:
http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/tracking-sandy-part-two_78053/
I have surfline save as a favorite. Check it everyday to see what's going down in the surf world.
HoneyBadger
10-31-2012, 09:46
Heard on the Radio this morning (Bob and Tom Show... 98.1fm in C-Springs) that most of Manhattan was just told to stay there because all the bridges and tunnels were closed. More than a million people were litterally trapped in Manhattan. In a situation lasting more than just a few days, hundreds of thousands of people could have died from exposure or eventually lack of food/water or theft/looting. Good reason not to live on an island with millions of other people...
Heard on the Radio this morning (Bob and Tom Show... 98.1fm in C-Springs) that most of Manhattan was just told to stay there because all the bridges and tunnels were closed. More than a million people were litterally trapped in Manhattan. In a situation lasting more than just a few days, hundreds of thousands of people could have died from exposure or eventually lack of food/water or theft/looting. Good reason not to live on an island with millions of other people...
Humans are a bit more resilient than that. Genocide kills hundreds of thousands. Major plagues kill hundreds of thousands. Hurricanes combined with Nor'Easters do not kill hundreds of thousands - although it might make for good radio.
When I lived in Manhattan, even the tiniest of studio apartments had a closet. A weeks worth of food/water doesn't take up all that much space to store for just this kind of event. As for those that didn't live in Manhattan but merely commuted there for work and may have been stuck there - head uptown, the entire island isn't located down at The Battery. Then again, even people in Colorado knew 24 hours ahead of time when the tunnels/bridges/subways in NYC were going to be shut down so a bit of preplanning goes a long ways toward getting off of anything South of Canal Street.
HoneyBadger
10-31-2012, 12:53
You seem to have more experience with the topic than I do, but I still feel like you're putting a lot of faith in the typical New Yorker... As I was saying, a situation lasting more than 10 days seems like it could easily result in tens of thousands of deaths. What would an EMP do?
Great-Kazoo
10-31-2012, 13:17
You seem to have more experience with the topic than I do, but I still feel like you're putting a lot of faith in the typical New Yorker... As I was saying, a situation lasting more than 10 days seems like it could easily result in tens of thousands of deaths. What would an EMP do?
They'd walk over to jersey and freeload off them, or hit brooklyn & queens hard.
We left almost 30 years. One of the reasons we told people was IF something happened there are only 3-4 bridges total to escape NY from, not us.
Looting started yesterday.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/10/30/9-arrested-in-thefts-near-rockaways-amid-storm/
Three people were arrested at a gas station, three at a Radio Shack, and two at a clothing store.
Wealth redistribution started yesterday.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/10/30/9-arrested-in-thefts-near-rockaways-amid-storm/
Fixed!
Aloha_Shooter
10-31-2012, 14:07
I remember discussing how one could store weeks' worth of water in a bathtub and making detailed emergency preparation checklists and kits back when I was in 8th grade (the Carter years). People just aren't taught to think anymore. :-(
Aloha_Shooter
10-31-2012, 14:08
They'd walk over to jersey and freeload off them, or hit brooklyn & queens hard.
We left almost 30 years. One of the reasons we told people was IF something happened there are only 3-4 bridges total to escape NY from, not us.
One of the reasons John Carpenter chose it as a location for all the national undesirables. [ROFL2]
"You're Snake Plisken! I heard you were dead."
Wow just reading some of the comments on some news sites in NYC you'd think they hate Bloomberg..
Fixed! Thank you.[Beer]
Self help redistribution to be more accurate, kinda like voting for Obama only direct instead of indirect. :)
Great-Kazoo
10-31-2012, 17:05
Wow just reading some of the comments on some news sites in NYC you KNOW they hate Bloomberg..
Don't be these people, have at least 2 weeks of food and water.
Localities across New Jersey imposed curfews to prevent looting. In Monmouth, Ocean and other counties, people waited for hours for gasoline at the few stations that had electricity. Supermarket shelves were stripped bare.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/nyregion/new-jersey-continues-to-cope-with-hurricane-sandy.html?_r=0&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1351774865-h27Up2S38t9pmNqGRYWGiA
It is one thing to say there is a curfew, it is entirely another thing to enforce a curfew.
Hey, do you see any countries offering us aid or assistance to clean up after this hurricane....
[Coffee]
Didn't think so.
I think when Romney takes office he should suspend all foreign aid immediately.
Great-Kazoo
11-01-2012, 08:40
Family & friends we know have either been prepared or working with neighbors to maintain. Absolutely NO Fuel deliveries on the island and other parts of NY & NJ until further notice. Power coming back on slowly. Even money says before election day "select" parts of the east coast are on line, before the rest of the coast.
dwalker460
11-01-2012, 09:03
I think when Romney takes office he should suspend all foreign aid immediately.
Abso-fucking-lutely! Isnt it time Haiti learned to live or die on its own?
I'm looking at the news stories and everything and I want to feel sorry for the sheeple but I can't. They had ample warning. They have had time to prepare. NOW they're stuck in a city w/ a ton of other people all wanting food and water and gas..
I honestly have no sympathy. Should they riot and start pillaging and killing each other.. I'll simply continue to shake my head.
I have started thinking more about prepping.. I have enough food for a week or so at the house but most of what I buy is fresh.. not canned. hmm.. might be time to think about a generator.
Abso-fucking-lutely! Isnt it time Haiti learned to live or die on its own?
Not just Haiti.
More news from a different source
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/1031/Hurricane-Sandy-power-outages-signs-of-progress-in-some-states
I'm looking at the news stories and everything and I want to feel sorry for the sheeple but I can't. They had ample warning. They have had time to prepare.
Mirrors my sentiments exactly. There was ample food/water/fuel ten days ago when the news was already on this story nonstop.
What, you didn't have any food/water/fuel set aside for just such an event? Will you next time???
Great-Kazoo
11-01-2012, 14:12
Mirrors my sentiments exactly. There was ample food/water/fuel ten days ago when the news was already on this story nonstop.
What, you didn't have any food/water/fuel set aside for just such an event? Will you next time???
There is only so much fuel you can set aside, especially in any place as congested as the east coast. Here it is NO bulk storage of fuel what so ever. Sure 20-30 gals in 5 gal cans is nothing (to us) What is plan B once fuel delivery has ceased, your option for siphoning gas is in the crapper due to flooding / contaminated fuel??
There is only so much fuel you can set aside, especially in any place as congested as the east coast. Here it is NO bulk storage of fuel what so ever. Sure 20-30 gals in 5 gal cans is nothing (to us) What is plan B once fuel delivery has ceased, your option for siphoning gas is in the crapper due to flooding / contaminated fuel??
I've been through three direct hits from Cat 4 hurricanes and two typhoons with winds clocked above 140mph, not 80mph blows like ny/nj got. When something like this is bearing down, sane individuals, make it out of town or plan on how they are going to stick it out and what supplies that entails.
Hurricanes, unlike many other natural disasters, come with a significant window of warning, typically more than a week, and even longer in the case of Sandy.
Would it be unfortunate to lose one's home, certainly. Did this come with no warning at all? -hardly.
Two or three five-gallon gas cans worth of fuel would easily get people to higher ground and that amount of gas was widely available a week ago. For that matter, pull into the Texaco, gas up and go.
I feel for anyone that loses what they have but in speaking with friends who live (and remain) in lower Manhattan, this isn't the end of civilization as we know it, it's destruction in a heavily populated area that would have done far more damage in just about any other country on earth.
If a person pays the premium to live on a sandbar with an elevation of 0', and the news is forecasting an oncoming storm, it might be a good idea to leave before things hit. Once out of the affected area, fuel availability isn't really an issue anymore.
SuperiorDG
11-01-2012, 14:34
There is only so much fuel you can set aside, especially in any place as congested as the east coast. Here it is NO bulk storage of fuel what so ever. Sure 20-30 gals in 5 gal cans is nothing (to us) What is plan B once fuel delivery has ceased, your option for siphoning gas is in the crapper due to flooding / contaminated fuel??
There are plenty of alternative ways of reducing the amount of fuel one would need. Also, probably a lot of them didn't even have the containers for the fuel on hand. They didn't need to store all that fuel, but having the ability to do so would have been smart.
I would imagine a lot of this fuel is going to feed generators. One could reduce the items that need a generator, no TVs and other nonessential items. Battery powered radio work for news. Have a store of food that doesn't require refrigeration, and cook with propane. They could eat all the stuff that would go bad while the had fuel and rely on the other stuff later.
[Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
What am I saying, this is just basic preppier talk. All those people standing in line are dump asses.
Great-Kazoo
11-01-2012, 16:19
I've been through three direct hits from Cat 4 hurricanes and two typhoons with winds clocked above 140mph, not 80mph blows like ny/nj got. When something like this is bearing down, sane individuals, make it out of town or plan on how they are going to stick it out and what supplies that entails.
Hurricanes, unlike many other natural disasters, come with a significant window of warning, typically more than a week, and even longer in the case of Sandy.
Would it be unfortunate to lose one's home, certainly. Did this come with no warning at all? -hardly.
Two or three five-gallon gas cans worth of fuel would easily get people to higher ground and that amount of gas was widely available a week ago. For that matter, pull into the Texaco, gas up and go.
I feel for anyone that loses what they have but in speaking with friends who live (and remain) in lower Manhattan, this isn't the end of civilization as we know it, it's destruction in a heavily populated area that would have done far more damage in just about any other country on earth.
If a person pays the premium to live on a sandbar with an elevation of 0', and the news is forecasting an oncoming storm, it might be a good idea to leave before things hit. Once out of the affected area, fuel availability isn't really an issue anymore.
I'm not disagreeing with anything anyone has posted. Being from NY and having left many years ago, one of the reasons is the mentality base. I have no sympathy for those unprepared.
Everything i have read the 2 biggest issues seem to be for the masses are
1) MY CELL PHONE Battery is DEAD[Bang]
2) I have nothing to eat[Bang]
STFU, deal with this shit once there is a hint of a storm heading your way.
People will keep their starbucks coupons within arms length but not extra's of anything else.
Outside of being my brother one thing he did for everyone back east was make sure they all had some kind of emergency supplies on hand. 1-2 months probably not. NY is instant gratification 24/7
However enough to last a week, 2 tops, better than most.
jerrymrc
11-03-2012, 20:25
I only watched part of a video where a woman is screaming "Were going to die!" It has been three days now and there are old people. We are going to die! Where is president obama?
I guess Jim said it correctly when he talked about the mentality. It is not like they have not had storms before. But I guess in the past with the service station and stores a couple of blocks away.....
So lets put away the east coast survival kit. Good for a week, takes up a small amount of space and needs no maintenance. Food not included.
One burner Butane stove. $18 On sale at Big 5 all the time.
Butane. 12 cans is like $25
Midland ER102 Emergency Radio. $43 has crank that can charge your precious cell phone as well as batteries.
Solar camp shower for hot water $13 even if it would not get hot enough back east you could add a little water from the stove and take a shower/wash dishes...
One LED camp light $20. I have a few of these and puts out quite a bit of light. Since she is complaining about it getting cold We throw in 4 wick lamps at $6 each and $25 worth of overpriced "lamp oil" 4 of these going in one 15X20 room with a few adults will keep it toasty in the evening while listening to the radio.
So along with some batteries $168 buys a family a week of cooking, providing some light, hot water and some heat. Now will this do it all? No, but it will provide some of whats missing when the power and gas go out.
I bet if you walked up to many after the storm and offered all of the above for $500 they would have jumped at it.
Just some thoughts. [Flower]
ChunkyMonkey
11-03-2012, 22:20
Looting, lawlessness are rampant!
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-residents-arm-looters-article-1.1196031
Meanwhile...
Thursday Report: Bloomberg Wouldn't Let Guard Into Brooklyn Over Their Possession of Guns
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/11/03/thursday-report-bloomberg-wouldnt-let-guard-brooklyn-over-their-possessi#ixzz2BDyRyyn8
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/11/03/thursday-report-bloomberg-wouldnt-let-guard-brooklyn-over-their-possessi
Looting, lawlessness are rampant!
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-residents-arm-looters-article-1.1196031
From the article
Good Samaritans had set up makeshift food throughout the peninsula Friday, grilling food and passing out water, while the Red Cross and FEMA was nowhere in sight.
See that, 2 national "assistance" organizations with their billions of dollars are NOWHERE IN SIGHT.
/snip National Guard story
Once again if falls to the individual or a group to do the work the government promised.
ChadAmberg
11-04-2012, 09:31
Once again if falls to the individual or a group to do the work the government promised.
It's pretty sad though, even the government has enough sense to tell folks to keep 3 days of food/water available. Something I read said that almost everyone in NYC only eats out almost all the time. The most food they may have available is a box of poptarts and a can of soup, and no stored water. Remember folks, these big city folks are "your betters" in their not so humble opinion.
Here's a great link from Colorado Springs on emergency planning: http://www.springsgov.com/units/fire/oem/Colorado%20Springs%20Emergency%20Preparedness%20an d%20Safety%20Guide.pdf
jerrymrc
11-04-2012, 19:27
I need to stop reading this crap. They are acting like they are truly dying. My thermostat is set for 60 at night and it takes colder than "30's" to make my furnace kick on and my place has bad windows and was built in 74. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/04/over-2-million-remain-without-power-after-sandy-as-bloomberg-warns-gas/
With overnight temperatures sinking into the 30s and hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses still without electricity, New York City officials handed out blankets and urged people to go to temporary warming shelters set up during the day at senior citizen centers.
In a heavily flooded Staten Island neighborhood, Sara Zavala spent the night under two blankets and layers of clothing because the power was out. She had a propane heater but turned it on for only a couple of hours in the morning. She did not want to sleep with it running at night.
"When I woke up, I was like, `It's freezing.' And I thought, `This can't go on too much longer,"' said Zavala, a nursing home admissions coordinator.
"Nights are the worst because you feel like you're outside when you're inside," said Josey, who sleeps under three blankets and wears longjohns under her pajamas. "You shiver yourself to sleep." She added: "It's like we're going back to barbaric times where we had to go find food and clothing and shelter."
I hope the east cost guys will say something to make me understand.
Aloha_Shooter
11-04-2012, 19:46
To be fair, 30s by the sea is a big difference from 30s here. Hell, I was colder in DC with temps in the 50s than here with temps in the 30s. It gets worse when you add in ocean "breezes". Yes, some of the people on TV are melodramatic and overstating their case but a lot of people here are understating how bad things are there.
Great-Kazoo
11-04-2012, 19:48
I need to stop reading this crap. They are acting like they are truly dying. My thermostat is set for 60 at night and it takes colder than "30's" to make my furnace kick on and my place has bad windows and was built in 74. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/04/over-2-million-remain-without-power-after-sandy-as-bloomberg-warns-gas/
I hope the east cost guys will say something to make me understand.
It's a Dry cold[ROFL1]
40 here and 40 back east is 2 different things. The humidity lever really sinks in to your bones and hard to shake off. Combine that with say an average of 2-3' standing water you get bone chilling cold even @ 50deg.
With that being said TFB you weak kneed, lightweight east coast mfkrs!!!!!!
You knew this was coming, you knew it was going to be bad. Stocking up on MD20/20 and boro's instead of food, clothing and CONDOMS, to hopefully keep you from reproducing is not my problem. Nor is it the .gov's it is your's. When you take a trip, you do not wait until you run out of gas to fill up, YOU PLAN AHEAD!. The only one who would even venture out to bring you gas is AAA or what ever road side assistance YOU ARE PAYING FOR ,NOT GIVEN FREE OF CHARGE.[Rant1][Rant1][Rant1]
Making this even sadder is the majority of folks on SI actually work for a living and not too dependent on .gov assistance.
One more thing (yeah i know surprise) Where my family is located, just happens to be an arfcom member who lives in the area and went to school with my nephew. He and a few others have been prepared and "keeping an eye" on things where the family lives, just because i'm a fellow GUN OWNER!
Once again neighbor Helping Neighbor. as it should be.
NEW YORK, NEW YORK ONE HELL OF A TOWN. EVERY WHERE I LOOK THERE'S DEBRIS FLOATING AROUND. NEW YORK NEWWWW YORK!
I dunno Jerry,all I can say is there thin skinned.
I guess I was brought up differently.Mom and Pop being from Poland and went through the war and Mom lived in the Warsaw Ghetto as a child we were taught to be prepared.
I remember when I was a kid during the big blackout in NYC,which was in Jully of 77 my Pop was saying just look at how these savages act,they would never make it through any major disaster..
And I also remember how nutty it was when NYC got hit with some major snow storms.But we allways stayed warm,candles and kerrosene heaters,and quilts back then.Never had issues with food,mom pickled and canned everything so we were good.Most our naighbors were from theo old Europe so they did the same and we didn't have to worry about freeloaders
Their a whole different mentality now.Even some of the old school.Guess they got to Americanized and forgot where they came from...
Damn glad we escaped from there...
jerrymrc
11-04-2012, 20:25
I dunno Jerry,all I can say is there thin skinned.
I guess I was brought up differently.Mom and Pop being from Poland and went through the war and Mom lived in the Warsaw Ghetto as a child we were taught to be prepared.
I remember when I was a kid during the big blackout in NYC,which was in Jully of 77 my Pop was saying just look at how these savages act,they would never make it through any major disaster..
And I also remember how nutty it was when NYC got hit with some major snow storms.But we allways stayed warm,candles and kerrosene heaters,and quilts back then.Never had issues with food,mom pickled and canned everything so we were good.Most our naighbors were from theo old Europe so they did the same and we didn't have to worry about freeloaders
Their a whole different mentality now.Even some of the old school.Guess they got to Americanized and forgot where they came from...
Damn glad we escaped from there...
I guess that is where some of it in me comes from. My grandmother on my mothers side spoke all of 20 words of English when she died after being here 47 years.
I do understand the moisture aspect of the temp thing since I was raised in Oregon. 2-5 days without was normal and we went 20 days without power or a phone nor the ability to leave for the first 4 days after an ice storm. I guess the thing that I do not understand is they had days knowing this was coming and from the stories did NOTHING.
Even in later years just about everyone I know has a couple of oil lamps for decoration. I kinda understand. My S-I-L that is a member here is from NY. I need to see how his family did.
They are in Japan and very grateful for a few items I had them take when the Tsunami hit. [Flower]
Zombie Steve
11-05-2012, 13:47
They are acting like they are truly dying.
I done run out of aloe terlet paper for wipin' muh Yankeehole®!!!
SuperiorDG
11-05-2012, 13:49
I done run out of aloe terlet paper for wipin' muh Yankeehole®!!!
A true prepper would never run out of crack floss
Zombie Steve
11-05-2012, 13:51
Yeah, but if it's not aloe, a Yankee might give up the will to carry on.
HoneyBadger
11-05-2012, 16:58
A true prepper would never run out of crack floss
Yeah, who here DOESN'T have a few month's worth of TP sitting around? I'd bet most of us have a few phonebooks or some newspaper sitting around too... [Tooth]
Yeah, who here DOESN'T have a few month's worth of TP sitting around? I'd bet most of us have a few phonebooks or some newspaper sitting around too... [Tooth]
I think I have over a years worth, but I crap at work most days... so i only use a little TP at home on the weekends usually. haha. If I didn't go to work 5 of 7 days per week, i'd have a lot less than I think I do. I guess I should go to costco ;)
the red cross was handing out flashlights with no batteries :(
my librial brother who talked sooooooo much shit about my preps called and is asking for help on how to start stockpiling
he finally got power on last night so lets see if he sticks with his plan to start prepping or since the lights are back on just goes back into sheep mode
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