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Eggysrun
10-31-2012, 19:47
So my wife had to leave her night class, and her instructor with god knows what wisdom didn't want her to leave so she took a chair and herself to block the door to keep my wife from leaving. This went on for about 15 minutes infront of her class, she asked the instructor more than enough times to get out of her way calmly but wouldn't comply. I couldn't really do much other than tell her to call 911 if she wouldn't move out of the way, I know that's what i would have done instead of getting violent. My wife didn't want to physically move this person because she was worried this crazy lady would escalate things. She eventually did push her aside, and then got chased all the way outside to her car.
I'm going with her tomorrow to the college to file a complaint because this is complete crap, I am just wondering what legal rights she had violated because I know if I were to physically stop my wife from leaving the house when she really wanted to leave it could constitute a domestic charge.
Sharpienads
10-31-2012, 19:51
Yeah, that's weird. Did the teacher say why she didn't want you wife to leave? Not that it really matters, just wondering.
dwalker460
10-31-2012, 19:52
WTH? What class was this?
Punkface
10-31-2012, 19:57
Wtf? What campus was this on?
colorider
10-31-2012, 19:57
My guess is that after you file a formal complaint, and have all those witnesses, the problem is going to cure itself. She aint going to be working there anymore.
Eggysrun
10-31-2012, 19:59
Yeah, that's weird. Did the teacher say why she didn't want you wife to leave? Not that it really matters, just wondering.
She was trying to convince her to stay, trying to make small talk. I can understand trying to calm someone down but if someone is intent on leaving you have no right to keep them there if they ask multiple times. Instructor was even telling her stuff like "well I guess you should quit your job too since you aren't going to finish this class" and bringing up other personal things that she's now worried this teacher is gonna go to our church (where my wife works) and start bad mouthing my wife to her boss. My wife had talked to her earlier before class letting her know she was withdrawing from it, but would stay for the certificate and she told my wife she wouldn't get the cert if she dropped the class so she decided to leave and then this all happened....
I'm pretty ticked off, very unprofessional! It's a good thing I work part time at my college in admissions, I know exactly who I will be bee lining to tomorrow morning.
Wtf? What campus was this on?
Off campus location, FRCC in Fort Collins.
Holy crap...yeah I would start yelling abduction or kidnapping. Its a college course with adults not a daycare facility.
Tinelement
10-31-2012, 20:09
Have her professor come over to the Tin.
He/she can see how it feels to be locked in. I got gates with pad locks. Once in, welcome to my world!
Seriously tho. That shit is messed up!!
Diesel24
10-31-2012, 20:09
What in the hell? I would definitely pursue a complaint on her to the fullest extend, is her professor on pills or something? lol Who in their right mind would stop teaching their class and drag a chair in front of the door. I'm curious as to what the other classmates were thinking....
Eggysrun
10-31-2012, 20:16
What in the hell? I would definitely pursue a complaint on her to the fullest extend, is her professor on pills or something? lol Who in their right mind would stop teaching their class and drag a chair in front of the door. I'm curious as to what the other classmates were thinking....
and this went on for 15 minutes. No one spoke up either which kinda makes me mad, adults too afraid to speak up when they see something wrong [Mad]
Nutjob.
File a complaint, follow up and make sure she is dealt with appropriately.
P.S. Is it brandishing/menacing if you press the muzzle into her forehead when she does shit like that? :D
Diesel24
10-31-2012, 20:18
and this went on for 15 minutes. No one spoke up either which kinda makes me mad, adults too afraid to speak up when they see something wrong [Mad]
Exactly what I'm thinking too. I wouldn't be able to stand-by while something like that is going on.
BPTactical
10-31-2012, 20:18
So she was physically prevented from leaving of her own free will?
That isn't illegal detainment, that is kidnapping IIRC.
Call LE
That will get the "teachers" attention.
Holger Danske
10-31-2012, 20:49
I agree BPTactical. Call LE and report it.
JohnnyEgo
10-31-2012, 21:01
A talk with the department chair will probably be more than sufficient to instill the lesson. My instinct tells me it's a case of horrible instructor about to lose her position if another student drops out. I've seen this more than once. Even when the University wants to shit-can a bad teacher, there are often a lot of folks who have put forth the time and effort and need the certificate more than a refund or a do-over. They howl just as loudly in the other direction. I guarantee you she will get a talking-to. To get her canned may take more concentrated effort, even if you file charges.
I was in a top level Electrical Engineering class with an associate professor who couldn't teach anything. One of my buddies tried to approach her one-on-one and tell her he wasn't learning anything. She grabbed his arm and marched him over to the student services office to evaluate him for a learning disability. She didn't last much longer after that. One thing a group of ex-Squids and assorted other service folks are good at is dealing with bureaucracy. The other is chain of command.
RCCrawler
10-31-2012, 21:56
If it was important you should have done something right away, waiting until the next day says to everyone that it really wasn't a big deal, but you went home, thought about it and now want to get someone in trouble.
Colorado_Outback
10-31-2012, 22:01
If it was important you should have done something right away, waiting until the next day says to everyone that it really wasn't a big deal, but you went home, thought about it and now want to get someone in trouble.
The way I read it, the incident happened tonight. He is going to talk to the administration tomorrow, since most of them are probably out of the office at 7pm..
Maybe someone filmed it and will contact your wife with the video. That would be some great ammunition to settle things and possibly turn over to LE.
Agreed that it’s pretty F’d up that no one else said or did anything.
OneGuy67
10-31-2012, 22:29
So she was physically prevented from leaving of her own free will?
That isn't illegal detainment, that is kidnapping IIRC.
Call LE
That will get the "teachers" attention.
For a "kidnapping" charge, one must be moved from one point to another against their will. Maybe false imprisonment.
Little known fact.. preventing someone from leaving is as good as kidnapping. It is a law and I can't find it cause I can't remember where it is, but it's right up there with kidnapping, only not a federal crime.
It's part of a set of laws designed to protect people in domestic situations where one tries to leave and the other impedes them.
If you really want to press it you can talk to the cops.. I don't know the exact law.. or the wording.. I just know it exists.. long story.
Bet that wouldn't happen on a CU campus...
OneGuy67
10-31-2012, 22:46
Little known fact.. preventing someone from leaving is as good as kidnapping. It is a law and I can't find it cause I can't remember where it is, but it's right up there with kidnapping, only not a federal crime.
It's part of a set of laws designed to protect people in domestic situations where one tries to leave and the other impedes them.
If you really want to press it you can talk to the cops.. I don't know the exact law.. or the wording.. I just know it exists.. long story.
Monky, trust me on this one. Not kidnapping...and kidnapping, both first and second degree are state crimes. False imprisonment would be the closest criminal charge, depending upon what the witnesses said and in the end, it is a misdemeanor.
newracer
10-31-2012, 22:48
18-3-303. False imprisonment
(1) Any person who knowingly confines or detains another without the other's consent and without proper legal authority commits false imprisonment. This section shall not apply to a peace officer acting in good faith within the scope of his or her duties.
(2) False imprisonment is a class 2 misdemeanor; except that false imprisonment is a class 5 felony if:
(a) The person uses force or threat of force to confine or detain the other person; and
(b) The person confines or detains the other person for twelve hours or longer.
So she was physically prevented from leaving of her own free will?
That isn't illegal detainment, that is kidnapping IIRC.
Call LE
That will get the "teachers" attention.This is exactly what I was thinking, this lady could be brought up on criminal charges.
I know it's not kidnapping, I said that it wasn't.. it was along the same lines though. I'll see if I can find it tomorrow.. right now I'm on tramadol and flexiril, so I don't feel like thinking.
newracer
10-31-2012, 23:39
I posted the law.
I know you did but the charge wasn't false imprisonment. If I can find it I will.. if not I'll be happy to know I was beaten by the internet.
DavieD55
11-01-2012, 06:44
That is bizarre man. Too bad she didn't record that.
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