Don't hunt with strangers

[wyzardd]

Left hunting camp early, the group we were with contained at least 60% total idiots. One just about shot another, none followed blood trails until I nagged them, they wouldn't finish off wounded game - just left it to die while they tried to blame each other for being lousy shots (I took it upon myself to finish him off, which they hardly noticed)

Never got a shot at anything, buddy and I bugged out and counted ourselves lucky to get away in as good shape as we were.

Sucked because the area was chock-full of elk, but it's just not worth it. Maybe I'll make it back next weekend with some people that understand firearm safety and dislike leaving animals suffering.

Area 4, btw. Most camps had at least 2 animals hung up, the idjits I was with filled 6 out of 12 tags by noon Saturday. Apparently a half-dozen guys can pump enough lead in the general direction of a herd to kill or wound 3 in less than a minute. The other tags were filled by guys that knew these 6 and headed a safe distance downhill, waiting for the herd to run from the spray 'n' pray crowd.

[pickenup]

This is one of the reasons I quit hunting. All my old hunting partners either moved away, or died off. I won't hunt with a bunch of idiots.

Sounds like it's a good thing you got out while you still could.

[Wallary]

Wow Wyzardd! It sounds like you got lucky and got out while you could. Too many guys competing in one spot can't be a good thing. The most I've ever hunted with is 4 or 5 and that seems like a lot to keep track of me. That's why I switched to Archery Hunting the last 20 years to get away from the over crowded Orange War- Zone. We used to laugh and say things like ( Are we Hunting or are we at a Bronco game!) lol! Good Luck next week and be safe.

[brandyspaw]

I haven't been hunting in years for that precise reason. I too have lost all my
old hunting buddies as they have either died off or moved away. I think one has to be really carefull who you go hunting with and in this day and age it seems much worse than before.

Maybe I'm just getting old and grumpy since I'm pushing 60 but it seems there are a lot more morons hunting than when I started 40 some years ago. Still and all, I would like to go on one more Elk hunt before I take a dirt nap.

[HunterCO]

I think tomarrow I am going to turn in my drivers license and quit driving there are just to many idiots on the road. I mean 20 years ago it wasn't so bad but anymore it is just too dangerous to drive. I think my best bet is to give up turn in my DL and get a buss pass. After all it is much easier to blame everybody else when you need an excuse to quit.:rolleyes:

[wyzardd]

Yeah, I'm not going to stop hunting, I'm just going to stop hunting with those morons. I'm thankful that they showed me a prime spot, and I intend to go back with two or three of my old hunting buddies.

Never seen so many, nor so severe, cases of buck fever. The two young boys that were with them were more responsible and in control than the 40 through 60 year old men.

[pickenup]

After all it is much easier to blame everybody else when you need an excuse to quit.
Thumper..........what did your father tell you?

[rondog]

OK, I can't resist this...

I grew up in Oklahoma, and my dad and his buds all went elk hunting in the San Juans every fall. Here's some of his old photos, from around 1961-1964 I believe. I scanned these because of the old Jeeps in them, there's a lot more photos than this, I was after the old Jeep shots. I hope I haven't posted these here before......

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10018.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10003.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10010.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10009.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10007.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10008.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10011.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10012.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10014.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10016.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10015.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/dads%20hunting%20photos/Scan10017.jpg

[wyzardd]

Some of those pictures look startlingly familiar. I grew up hunting around Pagosa Springs and get a little "home" sick for that part of the state sometimes. I haven't been back since my grandmothers funeral and I suspect it's changed a lot since '92 or so.
Took some big ol' cows out of there.

[TINCUP AL]

Rondog- Those are some great pictures. Did you also post these on colorado4x4.org a while back ?

[michael_aos]

Getting away from the roads helps eliminate a lot of the idiots.

http://homepage.mac.com/michael_aos/.Pictures/Kifaru/tipi/IMG_6987.jpg

Mike

[HunterCO]

Getting away from the roads helps eliminate a lot of the idiots. Mike

Bingo most of the idiots road hunt they are afraid to hike more than ten feet from an ATV or truck.

I have never had any problems with idiots after I hike several miles back in. Not to mention 99% of the time the idiots don't have a damn thing hanging in camp unless they just get lucky that someone like me or you pushed them their way.

[rugger]

Edit: I know that this is a late entry, but it seems like a good thread to remind us all of basic hunter safety.

I picked up a new hunting partner from work two years ago. When we started handling firearms at camp I asked him if he minded if we talk about safety. I told him how I intended to carry/transport/handle my firearm while in the field and in camp. I asked if he minded doing the same.....he did not. He acted like it was a little silly to be talking about it, and I don't think that he takes safety nearly as seriously as I do. There was a time or two that he had less muzzle control than I would prefer. Basically, I don't want to be downrange from your gun. I doubt that I'll hunt with him again. I'd rather hunt alone than to be with someone who is unsafe.

[spqrzilla]

I'm pretty tight with safe gun handling and fortunately the guys I hunt with are too, so we get along well.

Of course, half of us teach hunter safety and would be pretty embarrassed if we shot ourselves. [Coffee]

[nontactical]

I can certainly empathize... this last deer season I hunted with a new group and I was looked at funny for not drinking until the shooting was done for the day, and derided for not wanting to take a 250 yard off hand shot at a moving deer.

Hey Rondog... my envy at those pictures cannot be expressed with words. Jeeps are cool, old Jeeps are really cool, and 50 year old Jeeps are so cool that when I get to play with one on rare occasion I pee a little.

[Yucca]

Michael AOS

Whats the story on that tent??

Looks interesting...and light.

I'm getting old..I like light.;)

[rondog]

Hey Rondog... my envy at those pictures cannot be expressed with words. Jeeps are cool, old Jeeps are really cool, and 50 year old Jeeps are so cool that when I get to play with one on rare occasion I pee a little.
You'd probably like the one I'm restoring then. It's a '56 CJ5, that used to be my dad's hunting Jeep. It sat dry and unused in indoor storage for 30 years. I'm restoring it back to showroom new condition, with a few safety/reliability upgrades like 12v, 11" brakes, better steering, electronic ignition, etc. This is how it looked when I dragged it out into the daylight for the first time in 30 years.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/1956%20CJ5%20all%20together/Dirty2.jpg

First bath...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/1956%20CJ5%20all%20together/clean1.jpg

I've already had the frame and rear axle housing sandblasted and powdercoated, I've gotta get back to putting it together. The body tub is really cherry.

[rondog]

Rondog- Those are some great pictures. Did you also post these on colorado4x4.org a while back ?
Yes I did.

[rondog]

Some of those pictures look startlingly familiar. I grew up hunting around Pagosa Springs and get a little "home" sick for that part of the state sometimes. I haven't been back since my grandmothers funeral and I suspect it's changed a lot since '92 or so.
Took some big ol' cows out of there.
That's the area they used to hunt, around Pagosa Springs. The one photo of the CJ2A in the snow is at the top of Engineer Pass.

[Muzzle]

Great Photos!!!!

[HunterCO]

That is sweet I don't care who you are and it don't look like much restoration is needed............Ok mechanical upgrades but damn your lucky to have a gem like that.

[rondog]

That is sweet I don't care who you are and it don't look like much restoration is needed............Ok mechanical upgrades but damn your lucky to have a gem like that.

Thanks! Considering it was only 19 y/o when Dad bought it, then he stored it indoors for 30 years, it's really in good shape overall. Dad never drove it, except for each fall when he'd tow it from OK to CO for elk hunting, and I'd bet he only did that maybe 5 times. But, it has had some minor Bubba mods done to it before he got it.

For being 52 years old though, it's in outstanding condition, considering the fate of most old Jeeps. That's why I want to do a showroom restoration, it's a perfect candidate. Won't be a show queen though, it WILL be driven over every Colorado mountain trail I can possibly do! No rock crawling though. Camping, fishing and photo trips. It's a Willys, I want it to live a Willys life.

I could blather on and on about it, and I've got tons of photos, but this IS a gun forum, after all. There's a bunch of photos here, if you're interested... http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/ several sub-albums that start with 1956 CJ5. Help yourself....