What polymer 9mm to buy?

[Tinelement]

Glocks are out.....


Ready.....

Go!

[Eggysrun]

Hk? P30s are nice I heard

[ray1970]

I hear good things about the S&W M&P pistols.

I have always liked the XD platform myself. The grip angle seems to be the same as a 1911.

[Beer]

[KevDen2005]

If you're not doing Glock I think M&P are awesome guns too. They have their stuff together with that gun, very comfortable to shoot.

[dwalker460]

I like the Beretta PX4 and the XD's myself..

[Ridge]

Another vote for M&P

[Great-Kazoo]

H&K USPc in 9mm. Tied with Walther P99 (early version) i like second strike capability w/out having to move you hand to rack the slide.
One day i wll let you road test that unit, then your glasses will fog up, like walking in to a strip club with shower dancers!

S&W M&Pc for striker fired w/ Apex DEAK :) You know who i'm talking to

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[Tinelement]

Hk? P30s are nice I heard

Had to effing go there didn't ya!!!! One pistol I regret selling.!



I hear good things about the S&W M&P pistols.

I have always liked the XD platform myself. The grip angle seems to be the same as a 1911.

[Beer]


Just bought another M&P tonight!!!!

[Colorado_Outback]

Styer M9.

[roberth]

Smith M&P - Get the Apex trigger work.

[JohnnyEgo]

They're all roughly the same. I like the older HK USP series a lot.

[Jake76]

The?M&P's are nice. I'm also a big fan of the Walther P99's. Would love to get my hands on a PPQ and test one of those out.

[NightCat]

M&P

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[sneakerd]

M&P Pro Series in 9mm. Apex junk is un-necessary as after 1000 rnds the trigger smooths out and then has a really nice predictable break. The only necessary add-ons imho are 10-8 mag baseplates and the Sprinco recoil spring kit. I have 2, both with approx 3000 thru each, not a single malfunction of any kind, and they are bullseye accurate at defensive ranges. (4.25s with Tritiums)

[roberth]

M&P Pro Series in 9mm. Apex junk is un-necessary as after 1000 rnds the trigger smooths out and then has a really nice predictable break. The only necessary add-ons imho are 10-8 mag baseplates and the Sprinco recoil spring kit. I have 2, both with approx 3000 thru each, not a single malfunction of any kind, and they are bullseye accurate at defensive ranges. (4.25s with Tritiums)

Well there ya have it. [Beer]

[BPTactical]

HK

[Tinelement]

Stop it with the HK shit dudes!!!


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[stevelkinevil]

M&P's are great pistols (I am also an M&P armorer) I also like the FN FNP's and FNX's (I still like hammers)

[electronman1729]

cz duty p07

[NightCat]

M&P Pro Series in 9mm. Apex junk is un-necessary as after 1000 rnds the trigger smooths out and then has a really nice predictable break. The only necessary add-ons imho are 10-8 mag baseplates and the Sprinco recoil spring kit. I have 2, both with approx 3000 thru each, not a single malfunction of any kind, and they are bullseye accurate at defensive ranges. (4.25s with Tritiums)

Have to argue with calling Apex parts junk...They're anything but junk.

High quality fantastic enhancements for the M&P is more like it..

But I'll agree to disagree....I just so happen to think the Pro is over priced for the things you get...Most of the price of the pro, is to have "pro" laser engraved on the slide...the pro trigger is still shit, as are the S&W Night sights.

My suggestion, M&P 9, Trijicon Night sights, APEX DCAEK. For about the same price as the pro and much higher quality than OE S&W.

[sneakerd]

Wrong on so many levels. Have you put 6000 rounds thru the M&P Pro? I highly doubt it. The trigger itself only gets better as you put more rounds thru it. Tritium is Tritium so I don't see how the S&W sights are shit. Prove it. $50 and I'll out shoot you at FL, 10 yards with either of my Pros, your choice, any ammo you choose any time. You bring any pistol you want. Bring your Apex junk if you dare.[Beer]

[brutal]

Sigpro sp2022 ;-)

[ChunkyMonkey]

Sig 236 or the old school P6

[brutal]

Sig 236 or the old school P6

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Polymer pistols...

The older sigpro sp2340 was the first poly frame Sig made -1998. P6 is the P225. Never heard of a p236.

[NightCat]

Wrong on so many levels. Have you put 6000 rounds thru the M&P Pro? I highly doubt it. The trigger itself only gets better as you put more rounds thru it. Tritium is Tritium so I don't see how the S&W sights are shit. Prove it. $50 and I'll out shoot you at FL, 10 yards with either of my Pros, your choice, any ammo you choose any time. You bring any pistol you want. Bring your Apex junk if you dare.[Beer]


I haven't put 6000 rounds through a Pro, you're right, however I've seen the Sear up close on it and I've dismantled a Pro all the way down to a stripped frame and damn near empty slide. The components have the same problem the regular M&P Does, and nothing will change that. Sure maybe after a few thousand rounds it'll smooth some things out, the natural wearing process may polish up some surfaces, but no matter how many rounds you have through it, the Striker block will not smooth out, the Sear wont change shape.

So I'm glad you like your M&P Pro, I however do not believe it is worth the money.

Tritium is Tritium, Sure, why not. I've never heard of Trijicon's having the Tritium fall out of them...I have heard of that being an issue on the Pro sights. Once again, I'm glad you like your pistol, I'm not knocking you or your gun.

I'm not denying that the gun may feel better the more rounds you put through it, however what I am NOT doing is calling it Junk.

I am not bashing you, or your gear, or whatever parts you may have or like, so show the same respect to myself, numerous other running APEX Parts, and APEX themselves.

Please tell me what is that makes APEX Parts junk? I am so very curious where this opinion comes from. Please tell me that sear which is made from heat treated A-2 tool steel is junk.

Regardless, back on Topic.

OP, it comes down to this, you have a lot of suggestions posted here, and a lot of them are M&P.

Not going to rip on H&K or on Sig Sauer, they both make fantastic pistols, I personally prefer to shoot an M&P.

So whether you land yourself with a Sig, HK, M&P or an M&P Pro. I hope that we've contributed some useful knowledge that you can take with you when purchasing your polymer pistol.

If you'd like to meet up at a range and put some rounds through my M&P, feel free to PM me, I'd be happy to meet up so you can have a feel for it.

[opie011]

Wrong on so many levels. Have you put 6000 rounds thru the M&P Pro? I highly doubt it. The trigger itself only gets better as you put more rounds thru it. Tritium is Tritium so I don't see how the S&W sights are shit. Prove it. $50 and I'll out shoot you at FL, 10 yards with either of my Pros, your choice, any ammo you choose any time. You bring any pistol you want. Bring your Apex junk if you dare.[Beer]

C'mon Dave you act like you're a good shotor or something[Tooth]. Heck I need to get back down there for another lesson[Beer]

I went HK for awhile and sold mine off cause...I shot my glock better[Coffee]. My wife still loves her P2Ksk

I did recently pick up the M&P Shield and it is pretty sweet and I might want to check out other full size M&Ps

[MarkCO]

Currently enjoying the M&P Pro9 (with Apex parts and a KKM barrel). The XDm 5.25 does have a better trigger out of the box than the M&P, but I don't like the grip as well. Tried the FNS at SHOT...impressed. The 5" version "is supposed" to be out soon which I hope to be trying out.

[ChunkyMonkey]

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Polymer pistols...

The older sigpro sp2340 was the first poly frame Sig made -1989. P6 is the P225. Never heard of a p236.

Comprehension failure on my part. p226 the full size upgraded version of p6 what I meant. Either way, they are too heavy for OP, so nevermind. [Coffee]

[MarkCO]

Oh, about 200 rounds pre-Apex trigger job by a very accomplished local shooter and friend, and about 9600 since. I'll hit 10K next week.

[newracer]

FNX-45 Tactical but you will have to wait a few months.

[NightCat]

FNX-45 Tactical but you will have to wait a few months.

On that note! I did have an FNP-9 that I thoroughly enjoyed.

Only problem I find with FN Pistols is, they're very difficult to find off the shelf holsters for.

Loved the FNP though.

[BPTactical]

HK

[MarkCO]

On that note! I did have an FNP-9 that I thoroughly enjoyed.

Only problem I find with FN Pistols is, they're very difficult to find off the shelf holsters for.

Loved the FNP though.

Pretty confident that the FNS will have better aftermarket support...

[Tinelement]

[Pepsi]

[Pop]


Fun fun!!!

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[BPTactical]

[Pepsi]

[Pop]


Fun fun!!!

[Flower]

You started it!











HK

[Shootersfab]

[Coffee]HK P30

[sneakerd]

I have pulled the trigger on an Apexed M&P, I didn't like it. Thought it was waaay too light and not very crisp. Just my opinion. I've NEVER heard of the Tritium "falling?" out of an M&P sight- so don't know where or how many times that has happened- but I do guarantee that S&W would bend over backwards to fix it. I think too many people blame the trigger on a stock gun for their own inability to shoot the x-ring. Imho.

[NightCat]

I have pulled the trigger on an Apexed M&P, I didn't like it. Thought it was waaay too light and not very crisp. Just my opinion. I've NEVER heard of the Tritium "falling?" out of an M&P sight- so don't know where or how many times that has happened- but I do guarantee that S&W would bend over backwards to fix it. I think too many people blame the trigger on a stock gun for their own inability to shoot the x-ring. Imho.

Well, perhaps that's how the shooter decided to set it up? Each gun is form fitted to its owner am I right?

You'll have to pull the trigger on mine and tell me what you think, I'd love to get together with you and shoot your Pro, perhaps we'll make believers out of each other.

Understand however, I have mine set-up at about 3.5lbs...I could step it up to 5 if you wanted, prior to range day.

The moral of the story here is, we both love our M&P's. :P

[brutal]

Comprehension failure on my part. p226 the full size upgraded version of p6 what I meant. Either way, they are too heavy for OP, so nevermind. [Coffee]

Just weighed them

Sp2022 9mm 36 oz loaded, 16rds
P226 9mm 38 oz loaded, 16rds

P226 is an older (1989) stamped steel slide, non railed
Sp2022 barrel is shorter by .5 @3.9

[Aloha_Shooter]

I really like the S&W M&Ps; I think they're better than Glocks anyway and as a bonus they're built here in the US of A.

[Shootersfab]

HK p30[Flower]

[sneakerd]

Agree- I'm not trying to piss anyone off. I'm very competitive and also very opinionated. [Beer]

[NightCat]

Agree- I'm not trying to piss anyone off. I'm very competitive and also very opinionated. [Beer]

Agreed!

Cheers
[Beer]

[grubby669]

HK USP

[Kaiser.Shooter]

HK USP

^^^^^^^^

[brutal]

http://pikimal.com/pistols-and-revolvers/top/10/best-pistols-and-revolvers--2

[BPTactical]

Did I mention HK would be a good choice?[Coffee]

[brutal]

Did I mention HK would be a good choice?[Coffee]

[Awesom]


Did I mention how nice Sig's are to shoot?

Half the price of the HK, lighter trigger pull.

[Muaha]

[Great-Kazoo]

Just weighed them

Sp2022 9mm 36 oz loaded, 16rds
P226 9mm 38 oz loaded, 16rds

P226 is an older (1989) stamped steel slide, non railed
Sp2022 barrel is shorter by .5 @3.9

Unfortunately the Sig 2022 is a boat anchor resale wise. Nice hand gun just not a market for it, used OR New!

[brutal]

Unfortunately the Sig 2022 is a boat anchor resale wise. Nice hand gun just not a market for it, used OR New!

Hmmm. Seems to be tons of them out there, but they're selling on GB. Add in shipping and FFL and they're right at what I paid at my LGS.

Don't get me wrong, I like my $1,000 Sigs more, but the SP2022 is a great value, great shooting Polymer frame pistol.

[bellavite1]

Did I mention HK would be a good choice?[Coffee]

This guy has too much time on his hands...
Shouldn't you be gunsmithing something?
Anything???[Coffee]

XDM 3.8

[NightCat]

This guy has too much time on his hands...
Shouldn't you be gunsmithing something?
Anything???[Coffee]

XDM 3.8

Agree on XDm 3.8

I loved mine.

Beautiful trigger factory.

[USAFGopherMike]

Pick three and go shoot em. That's what I did. M&P was my favorite and I shot it the best, but really liked the XD. Didn't care for the grip angle on the glock. Bought the XD cause I got a great deal on it and have loved it ever since. I think it comes down to personal preference and application. My .02.

[BPTactical]

This guy has too much time on his hands...
Shouldn't you be gunsmithing something?
Anything???[Coffee]

XDM 3.8

I'm multitasking[Tooth]

[Portsider86]

M&P or FNX/S

[HBARleatherneck]

i like the XD.

[King]

My polymer pistol experience is limited to the m&p, glock, and XD and that is the order I like them. shoot them before you buy and pick what YOU shoot best.

[Cylinder Head]

Love my P30. Still warming up to my M&P9 w/DCAEK

[gos]

HK P30L w/ LEM trigger

[hatidua]

Try 'em all and pick whatever suits you. If there was one that was better than all the rest, the other companies would have gone out of business by now.

[brutal]

I'm surprised no one has suggested a Highpoint.



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(as a joke of course)

[SideShow Bob]

Go with real steel, or at least aluminum........[Tooth]

[Goodburbon]

USP.

Have I mentioned USP?

[RMAC757]

Agree on XDm 3.8

I loved mine.

Beautiful trigger factory.

Late to the party but +1 especially for carry. I also reccomend the XDM 9mm 4.5 with the Powder River Trigger. Can't beat this set up for the price. I also added the Trij HD's to both.

[flexlarson]

Well i like xdms in 9 for plinkin and capacity. 19 plus one. Kinda think got one gun get a real steel. 1911 ��

[00tec]

ZOMBIE THREAD!

[SA Friday]

Just get a Glock... [facepalm]

[Gravy Sandwich]

M&P for the budget conscious, or an HK P30 for those wanting to splurge. The trigger in the Pro model is a significant improvement over the regular M&P, but I prefer Apex trigger components in a competition pistol. After 9,000 rounds, my M&P is going strong. I did put a KKM barrel in it to improve its sub-par long range accuracy, and its still a notch below my P30 in that department. For me, Apex trigger components narrow the equipment gap between my M&P and the gaggle of STIs and other competition-oriented pistols I'm up against in local matches. For carry and HD, the Pro trigger is just fine. Not a fan of the standard M&P trigger for any application.

[TriggerHappy]

Another vote for M&P

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