This is what it looks like when STHF!

[cstone]

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2012/11/02/waiting-for-assistance-staten-island-neighbors-help-each-other/

I am glad to see neighbors helping neighbors. Just like self defense: When you really need government assistance right now, they are only days away.

Be safe.

[BPTactical]

I can't believe the crass of Bloomberg, taking resources from rescue efforts to run a freaking marathon.
The citizens of NY, NY need to drag him out and tar/feather his azz.

Sickening.......

[Sawin]

I can't believe the crass of Bloomberg, taking resources from rescue efforts to run a freaking marathon.
The citizens of NY, NY need to drag him out and tar/feather his azz.

Sickening.......
that'll be the day. [LOL]

[Ronin13]

I don't understand all the hoopla about the whole situation- don't these people have insurance? Why are they so reliant on the government when all they need is a good insurance policy that they should have had a long time ago. And, as some of you know, I like to use analogies, so here it's like they're standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, why would they wait until after the train blasts through to get off the damn tracks? They were told to evacuate well in advance, those that didn't, well, oops, I guess now you know that next time they tell you to get out of the storm's path you better do it. [Bang]

[SuperiorDG]

Angry residents pelted utility crews with eggs as they tried to restore power in Bridgeport, Conn., after the mayor claimed the local power company had "shortchanged" the state's largest city as it tries to recover from superstorm Sandy.
United Illuminating workers reported eggs and other objects being thrown at them a day after Mayor Bill Finch said the utility was taking care of wealthy suburbs while his constituents suffered. The unrest caused United Illuminating to pull its workers out until the city agreed to provide police protection.
"Citizens began throwing things at the crews," Michael West, a spokesman for United Illuminating, told FoxNews.com. "It started to get pretty hairy. They did not feel safe."
West said it started with verbal abuse and escalated.

"It started to get pretty hairy. They did not feel safe."- Michael West, spokesman for United Illuminating

"We communicated with the city and said if you don’t provide police support, we can't have our crews there in harm's way," he said.
West also took issue with Finch's claims, made at a Wednesday press conference.
"I'm sick and tired of Bridgeport being shortchanged," Finch said, noting that Bridgeport has the largest number of United Illuminating ratepayers and claimingg it should be treated better by the New Haven-based utility.
United Illuminating has denied giving priority to wealthy customers, while ignoring Bridgeport residents.
"Clearly people took to heart what they heard, even though it was not factual," West said of the reported incidents Wednesday. "We don’t choose favorites."
He said the city agreed to provide police support to UI workers after the company made the request.
The Wall Street Journal reported that 25,000 homes and business in Bridgeport were still without power Thursday, a fifth straight day after so-called superstorm Sandy hit the East Coast. The extended outages appeared to be primarily in the city's poorest neighborhoods, according to the newspaper.
In Connecticut, which had 374,000 customers left in the dark after the storm, the first priority for utility companies was to clear safety hazards, such as fallen trees and downed power lines, while conducting damage assessment and working to restore power to hospitals and police and fire stations.
Sandy struck states from North Carolina to Maine on Monday and Tuesday, leaving an estimated 8.2 million customers without power across 20 states.
Devastation from the storm doubled -- possibly even tripled -- that caused by Irene, which hit the East Coast in August 2011 as a powerful tropical storm, knocking out power to 8.4 million customers in 13 states.
While tensions mounted over the outages, utility companies appeared better equipped at restoring to the mass power outages when compared to Irene.
For example, West said that UI had 800 personnel on the ground before Sandy even hit the East Coast. During Irene, only 700 personnel were deployed during the peak of the storm, West said.
FoxNews.com's Cristina Corbin and the Associated Press contributed to this report.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/02/bridgeport-utility-workers-report-having-objects-thrown-at-them-by-residents/#ixzz2B6NWXUlB

[Eggysrun]

What made me laugh is Bloomberg not wanting the national guard's help because he didn't want to see people other than police on the streets with guns lol

[cstone]

Angry residents pelted utility crews with eggs as they tried to restore power in Bridgeport, Conn., after the mayor claimed the local power company had "shortchanged" the state's largest city as it tries to recover from superstorm Sandy....Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/02/bridgeport-utility-workers-report-having-objects-thrown-at-them-by-residents/#ixzz2B6NWXUlB
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Start a class war and you shouldn't be surprised when you get riots. Too bad no one will hold the mayor responsible for his stupid statements. Even if what he said was true, anyone who throws anything at utility workers, who are in the neighborhood to restore power, deserve to live without power until they learn to behave.

In kindergarten that is called a time-out.

Sad that others who did not behave like criminals have to suffer for the stupidity of thugs in the neighborhood.

Be safe.

[Bailey Guns]

Wow! That photo in the story looks like something out of an end-of-the-world movie.

That illustrates why:


I heat with wood
I keep some emergency food available
I always keep a 1000 Gal propane tank full
I have a generator to power necessities (especially the well pump for fresh water and the frig to keep food fresh)
I keep extra gas available
I may or may not have some guns and a little ammo in case things get really bad
I have a truck/camper for emergency housing

I'm not gonna wait for the government. I don't need the government. I really don't want the government. We're in pretty good shape unless there's a fire. If that happens...we're screwed. All that planning for nothing.

[Sawin]

They just canceled the marathon. I'm sure the social media uproar had something to do with their change of heart.

[Great-Kazoo]

REMEMBER FOLKS Board members here feel a SHTF scenario IF Romney wins would, could or might not happen. as posted here.
http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showthread.php?t=69859

In this case the mayor, used Class to antagonize the masses. Today eggs tomorrow bricks and appliances thrown off roof tops.
I remember the 67 riots in Harlem & the bronx. I also remember a time when FDNY needed police protection then finally added cages to their H&L trucks due to objects being tossed off roof tops.

Yep Never happen.

[Sawin]

Wow! That photo in the story looks like something out of an end-of-the-world movie.
.....

I'm not gonna wait for the government. I don't need the government. I really don't want the government. We're in pretty good shape unless there's a fire. If that happens...we're screwed. All that planning for nothing.

I heard a story about a kooky old guy up in Ward that owned his own firetruck; an old junker from the 70's or earlier. I think it was more of a water tanker-looking rig, but it held several thousand gallons of h20. He seemed to think that between it, a chain-saw and a tow-strap to cut back and clear anything near his house, and back-burning when it became imminent, he could protect his home.... the fire might burn up to the edge of his property, but would stop there!? I suspect he was like me, and has never seen a raging forest fire in beetle kill in person, but realistically, how feasible is this plan?

[Bailey Guns]

I suppose it would depend on how much defensible space was in place around the home. Two to three hundred feet minimum of clear ground would work, probably. But with the intense heat and all the embers, it would still be dicey. I'm not sure a guy could stand to be exposed to a really raging fire even from two hundred feet away.

After the 3 or 4 fires I've seen up here it's pretty amazing how hot it gets. I've seen concrete that's been heated to the point it's basically a powder when you touch it. Saw a friend's Ft Knox safe that was nothing more than a solidified puddle on the ground...only thing recognizable were a couple of the 2 1/4" bolts.

I'm not taking a chance if there's a fire. That's why I have insurance. I've seen how fast they can move and how deadly they can be.

[cofi]

I don't understand all the hoopla about the whole situation- don't these people have insurance? Why are they so reliant on the government when all they need is a good insurance policy that they should have had a long time ago. And, as some of you know, I like to use analogies, so here it's like they're standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, why would they wait until after the train blasts through to get off the damn tracks? They were told to evacuate well in advance, those that didn't, well, oops, I guess now you know that next time they tell you to get out of the storm's path you better do it. [Bang]


ronin are you fucking insane? people are losing all of there worldly possessions in one night and your saying you dont understand all the hoopla.....what about when wildfires were chewing up houses out here did you understand how that was devastating families? insurance dosent mean shit when your house is just gone and all the irreplaceable crap you couldnt fit in your car has floated/burned

[JohnnyEgo]

I don't understand all the hoopla about the whole situation- don't these people have insurance? Why are they so reliant on the government when all they need is a good insurance policy that they should have had a long time ago. And, as some of you know, I like to use analogies, so here it's like they're standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, why would they wait until after the train blasts through to get off the damn tracks? They were told to evacuate well in advance, those that didn't, well, oops, I guess now you know that next time they tell you to get out of the storm's path you better do it. [Bang]

From what I recall in your prior posts, I believe you or your father run an agency or brokerage. I am very glad you do not represent my insurance company. You should also stay far away from the loss adjustment side of the business, least you be stabbed.

[Goodburbon]

I don't understand all the hoopla about the whole situation- don't these people have insurance? Why are they so reliant on the government when all they need is a good insurance policy that they should have had a long time ago. And, as some of you know, I like to use analogies, so here it's like they're standing on the train tracks, the train is coming, why would they wait until after the train blasts through to get off the damn tracks? They were told to evacuate well in advance, those that didn't, well, oops, I guess now you know that next time they tell you to get out of the storm's path you better do it. [Bang]

They need the government for the larger things. Clearing debris off the road, verifying integrity of infrastructure so that goods can make it to market (DOT), that the debris is starting to be removed (sanitation), that hazardous situations are brought under control (fire, police) is insurance doing that nowadays?

Life can not return to normal for them until the power comes on. Power can not come on until the power teams can access the damage, the damage can not be accessed until the way is cleared. I don't see state farm out there clearing the streets with a bulldozer.

[Bailey Guns]

I heard a report today on KOA(?) that volunteer workers from outside power companies were turned back by local power company union workers because the volunteers weren't union.

That's pretty fucked up.

[SuperiorDG]

I heard a report today on KOA(?) that volunteer workers from outside power companies were turned back by local power company union workers because the volunteers weren't union.

That's pretty fucked up.

No one messes with the union boys up there. [Swim]

[cstone]

I heard a report today on KOA(?) that volunteer workers from outside power companies were turned back by local power company union workers because the volunteers weren't union.

That's pretty fucked up.

I've read some of the same types of stories. I find the sources to be self serving. I've also read that some of the outside utility workers were sent to other areas where they were needed more and a joke about non-union workers not being welcome, being told in conjunction with the repurposing of some teams lead to the internet rumors.

I don't know what the truth is, so at this point, to me, it is still just an internet story. I do know that if I, or my family, was in need of assistance, I would be happy to get it... even if it was from a dirty hippie [Coffee]

Everytime I see one of these situations, it reinforces my belief that we all need help from time to time. Not help for ever. Just help enough to get back on our feet. That is what I believe we should all be doing for each other when we need it. I don't want some federal agency with a multi-billion dollar budget helping me when a couple of guys with chain saws will do just fine.

Be safe.

[Bailey Guns]

What I heard was on the radio...during the hourly news...not on the internet. But I only heard it once. Wouldn't surprise me if it was true or false.

[Bailey Guns]

I heard a report today on KOA(?) that volunteer workers from outside power companies were turned back by local power company union workers because the volunteers weren't union.

That's pretty fucked up.

Here's the story. Clear as mud now:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2012/11/02/union-red-tape-in-nj-causes-alabama-recovery-crew-to-head-home/

[Tinelement]

I heard a report today on KOA(?) that volunteer workers from outside power companies were turned back by local power company union workers because the volunteers weren't union.

That's pretty fucked up.

Talking to my buddy who is a linesman in Loveland. Told me the same thing! He was trying to go.