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Hoser
10-19-2007, 22:13
From the Match Director...


PPPS Rifle Match for Sunday, October 28th, 2008

This will be the annual AK vs. AR match.

Match Info:

For the past three years or so we've hosted an AR vs. AK style match. The original intent was a heads-up comparison between the two systems in back-to-back runs on the same course of fire.

Last year, I mindlessly retained our usual Long Range stage and Standard Exercise stage which was incredibly frustrating-miserable in fact-for those of us shooting AKs. I was painfully reminded of the AK's "nature."

This year I'd like to make the event more about using the rifles/carbines at distances suitable to iron sights / dot scopes, instead of some kind of head to head comparison of ARs vs. AKs. So if you have a blaster setup for work on the close side of 250 yards, then here is the plan for this year:


-Three classes:

-AK Style Rifles (Iron Sighted AK-47, AK-74, SKS, etc, no bipods, no drum style magazines)

-AR Style Rifles (Iron Sighted AR-15 type, no bipods, no drum style magazines)

-Optics (Semi-Auto style rifles with one optic, no bipods, no drum style magazines)


-Three Courses of Fire @ about 35 rounds per stage:

-Long Range (Full size Pepper Poppers @ no more than 250 yards; flash targets ranging from 125 yards to 200 yards; all this from the first firing point, the shooter will advance forward toward the targets.)

-Mid-Range (Flash targets ranging from 90 yards to 150 yards; the shooter will move toward the sides of the range)

-Close Range (Several Paper Targets not to exceed 50 yards from the first firing position, all hits scored minor)

Pikes Peak Practical Shooters (PPPS) Rifle hopes to see you for the October Match wherein we are going to make it "easy" to get hits.

-Eddie

VNgunfighter
10-19-2007, 22:59
Also, it should be..................

The "AK and AR vs. the sun going down" and maybe some shooting.

All jokes aside, this is a great match so come out and shoot.

-J

jerrymrc
10-20-2007, 06:41
I see there is a match in Pueblo on th 28th. Is this the one?
I might like to try this.

Where do I go for more info?

Sorry for being a pain.

Hoser
10-20-2007, 08:35
Also, it should be..................

The "AK and AR vs. the sun going down"

Good point. I think Eddie learned a lesson last year.

Hoser
10-20-2007, 08:41
I see there is a match in Pueblo on th 28th. Is this the one?
I might like to try this.

Where do I go for more info?

Pueblo West hosts *lots* of matches. Cowboy action, Silhouette, High Power, IPSC, IDPA, ect. But this is the only match that day that I have anything to do with.

I should be able to answer most questions about this match. Ask away.

Some info about the Pueblo West range is avail here. http://www.pwsa.info

jerrymrc
10-20-2007, 09:52
I think I found a map on a 4h site of where the range is. Sorry but I have never been there before and everything I pull up on google lists a PO box. Any link to a map? What time does it start?

Do you normally have more AR's than AK's? I can bring either but I think it would be fun to run the AK. Just have to decide if I want to go irons or Kobra.

I will ask a friend if he wants to try it and lord knows if I mention it to the wife she will want to go.

Hoser
10-20-2007, 11:25
Map to gate of range can be found here.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=600+east+loma+drive&city=&state=co&zipcode=81007

Bring both guns. The goal of the match is to see which gun you shoot best. You get to shoot all the stages with both guns and both guns are scored separately. Remember, the targets are not close up and in your face. 250-300 yards is a long way. Not impossible, but not easy.

Start time is 10:00 and set up begins around 6:30.

jerrymrc
10-20-2007, 11:44
Map to gate of range can be found here.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=600+east+loma+drive&city=&state=co&zipcode=81007

Bring both guns. The goal of the match is to see which gun you shoot best. You get to shoot all the stages with both guns and both guns are scored separately. Remember, the targets are not close up and in your face. 250-300 yards is a long way. Not impossible, but not easy.

Start time is 10:00 and set up begins around 6:30.

Thanks. The wife and I shoot mainly at Buffalo creek and the first line is at 200. The wife has put up a pretty good score at 600 with the sar-3 and 69's

It is the close up stuff that is the issue. The wife was in an informal 3 gun in June down at Raton and had fun and thats what it is all about.