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USAFGopherMike
11-05-2012, 12:16
So I watched this the other night and can't believe I hadn't seen it before. If you haven't seen it, it's a must. It really shows you who's running this country and who's to blame when it falls on its face. Answer the poll: Have you seen it? Yes or No.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1645089/

Bailey Guns
11-05-2012, 16:15
Narrated by Matt Damon? Color me skeptical on it's veracity. No, I haven't seen it.

Sawin
11-05-2012, 16:33
I haven't seen it either, but it seems like it might be similar to the "red pill" documentary.

Great-Kazoo
11-05-2012, 16:34
Narrated by Matt Damon? Color me skeptical on it's veracity. No, I haven't seen it.

Well we know Damon doesn't have an agenda[Bang]
I tried watching some war movie with him The Green Zone. 10 min tops in to it and the shit was too deep.

Aloha_Shooter
11-05-2012, 17:16
I wouldn't watch or believe any crap out of Matt Damon any more than I would Michael Moore.

USAFGopherMike
11-05-2012, 20:02
Matt Damon is just the narrator. Probably his best work he's done actually. I don't like him. The documentary highlights failures by the last three presidents and focuses on banking/insurance sector executives who bankrupted America, caused the housing collapse, a recession, and the theft of taxpayer dollars. Yes, the SEC was in on it too. If you're sick of corrupt politicians fucking over American citizens, you'll be glad you watched it.

Aloha_Shooter
11-05-2012, 22:26
Matt Damon is just the narrator. Probably his best work he's done actually. I don't like him. The documentary highlights failures by the last three presidents and focuses on banking/insurance sector executives who bankrupted America, caused the housing collapse, a recession, and the theft of taxpayer dollars. Yes, the SEC was in on it too. If you're sick of corrupt politicians fucking over American citizens, you'll be glad you watched it.

See, the premise is flawed ... and you could guess that just from Damon's involvement. The financial crisis DID start in the late 90s when even the Washington Post noted craziness in the stock market and housing industry. I remember one article in the ComPost highlighting how crazy it was that a journeyman plumber with a wife and 3 kids making $60K/yr was able to get a no-down loan to buy a $400K house. The plumber in question was banking on the ever-increasing housing market to let him flip the house the next year and make $100K or more.

Banking sector made big bucks off this but it was pushed by Congress and the Clinton administration by extending and distorting the Community Reinvestment Act to the point they were suing banks who refused risky loans. If you're a banker and you have a choice between federal lawsuit or issuing a federally-guaranteed loan, what do YOU do?

The Damon film is trying to deflect blame from Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Bill Clinton, Robert Rubin and Lloyd Bentsen over to the bankers and insurance industry.

Irving
11-05-2012, 22:31
Blaming a market failure primarily on industry should be an immediate red flag.

hatidua
11-05-2012, 22:42
I wouldn't watch or believe any crap out of Matt Damon any more than I would Michael Moore.


The Damon film is trying to deflect blame from Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Bill Clinton, Robert Rubin and Lloyd Bentsen over to the bankers and insurance industry.

Probably best to see the film before pontificating. You might be right, you might not be. I've seen it and won't comment as it's not my place to pass judgement but commenting, with assumed authority, about a movie one hasn't even seen, is impressive in and of itself...

sniper7
11-05-2012, 22:43
have not seen it, then I will judge.

Aloha_Shooter
11-06-2012, 00:42
Probably best to see the film before pontificating. You might be right, you might not be. I've seen it and won't comment as it's not my place to pass judgement but commenting, with assumed authority, about a movie one hasn't even seen, is impressive in and of itself...

Not that impressive. You don't have to see any of Michael Moore's films to know he's going to blame EEEEEVIL capitalists and Republicans for the issue of the day. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict Damon's latest film is going to say fracking kills people and the environment, that the oil companies know it and don't care as long as they can keep sucking oil and gas from the ground.

Damon hasn't once ascribed any blame for the financial crisis on Frank, Dodd, Rubin, etc. but has said all kinds of things about bankers. It doesn't take much to extrapolate that past behavior to the monolog of this film.

hatidua
11-06-2012, 00:56
Not that impressive. You don't have to see any of Michael Moore's films to know he's going to blame EEEEEVIL capitalists and Republicans for the issue of the day. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict Damon's latest film is going to say fracking kills people and the environment, that the oil companies know it and don't care as long as they can keep sucking oil and gas from the ground.

Damon hasn't once ascribed any blame for the financial crisis on Frank, Dodd, Rubin, etc. but has said all kinds of things about bankers. It doesn't take much to extrapolate that past behavior to the monolog of this film.

Assail the message, not the messenger.

USAFGopherMike
11-06-2012, 03:18
The Damon film is trying to deflect blame from Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Bill Clinton, Robert Rubin and Lloyd Bentsen over to the bankers and insurance industry.

It's not his film. I think I've said that... and the exact opposite is what is shown. That's exactly who is highlighted as the culprits.. FFS.. 18 people said no, yet there's all this speculation about Matt Damon covering for the libs just cause he's a D-bag. See the documentary already.

Bailey Guns
11-06-2012, 06:15
Probably best to see the film before pontificating. You might be right, you might not be. I've seen it and won't comment as it's not my place to pass judgement but commenting, with assumed authority, about a movie one hasn't even seen, is impressive in and of itself...

I've never actually smoked crack, either. But I'm pretty sure it's bad for me based on what I've previously seen and heard. Agree with Aloha's assessment.

clark
11-06-2012, 13:49
I watched about 1/2 of it but it is a very flawed 1 sided supposedly documentary about how we got into this mess and it is by nature very left leaning with the guise of not being. It neglects to mention the dem controlled congress that got this housing mess started by being able to buy more house than you could possibly afford, another thing obama voted for along with drooling lips franks etc. It aint really worth the time to watch cause it is torro poopoo for the most part.

sellersm
11-06-2012, 15:27
Take a look at this article, might explain some of what's going on: participatory fascism (http://blog.independent.org/2012/10/30/once-more-with-feeling-our-system-is-not-socialism-but-participatory-fascism/)

Here's an excerpt:
Participatory fascism’s second great advantage over socialism is that when serious economic problems do arise, as they have during the past five years, the rulers and their key supporters in the “private” sector can blame residual elements of the market system, and especially the richest people who operate in that system, for the perceived ills. No matter how much the problems arise from government intervention, it is always possible to lay the blame on actors and institutions in the remaining “free enterprises,” especially the biggest bankers and other apparent top dogs.