View Full Version : Gun prices going to skyrocket?
Now that Obsama has one another term, does anyone besides me thing gun prices are going to skyrocket? If not why not? And what else will be impacted - ammo, magazines, etc? And finally, when do you think it will happen?
I think everything is going to start creeping up, and take a big jump when Obsama starts pushing gun control legislation, probably pretty soon.
Pancho Villa
11-07-2012, 08:30
Obama win has been priced in. You may see shortages for a little while, but it'll be back to normal soon enough.
kidicarus13
11-07-2012, 08:32
I went online last night at 10:30 to buy a case of .223 ammo and there were 54 cases of the particular ammo I wanted. At 6:25 this morning it was all gone. Good times!
I figure magazine capacity and import legislation efforts will begin between now and the first half of 2013.
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
11-07-2012, 08:33
I think everything is going to sky rocket, gas, food, electricity, ect ect ect. We're fucked
I think everything is going to sky rocket, gas, food, electricity, ect ect ect. We're fucked
Wrong.
Weed prices will go down [Flower]
Yep. Cost of everything will go up. I fully expect gasoline to top $5 a gallon by middle of next summer. You can also expect to pay more in taxes over the net several years too. Unemployment rates will hit a new all-time high as well.
Maybe I'm wrong. But I doubt it.
I can see the prices of all gun related items skyrocketing on us. This is gonna be madness for the next year.
Be scared, be very scared.
I think everything is going to sky rocket, gas, food, electricity, ect ect ect. We're fucked
Yep... and it looks like the guns I have now are all for me... won't be able to afford gas, food, cell phone AND ammunition when the prices shoot through the roof. [Bang]
When Obama gets done with his next 4 year term we won't recognize our country we have lost the principles that the founding fathers established and that have made this country one of the greatest in the world. It is indeed a sad day for all true conservative Americans because our way of life is lost.
sneakerd
11-07-2012, 08:55
I think dealers who gouge buyers by immed raising prices should be reported on/discussed here. I will keep people apprised on what's going on in my world (FL). There will by no gouging on current stock.
I think everything is going to sky rocket, gas, food, electricity, ect ect ect. We're fucked
^^This pretty much sums it all up
I looked at a few things online last night. I looked again this morning at the same items - prices have either magically gone up or the items are now sold out.
A crystal ball isn't required to see the possibilities.
Everything will go up. Guns will take an immediate hit because of the AWB announcement. Obama will once again be salesman of the year for the firearms industry. If it is like 2008 pricing and availability will stabilize in 8 months or so.
of course there will be a spike. Charge what the market will bear.
Of course if you piss off your customers by trying to charge more than that level they may not come back.
ronaldrwl
11-07-2012, 09:15
My guess, there will be a shortage or higher prices for a few months. Long term is a guessing game. BO has so much on his plate maybe he'll forget about guns. I'm waiting to see what he told Putin he would do after the election “When he had more flexibility”.
SouthPaw
11-07-2012, 09:15
I think there will be some shortages for a few months but then it will be back to normal. I do believe everything else will go up like others have said. When is the last time you saw a gallon of milk above $3? $75 would not even fill up my half ton truck and the pump stopped because of the cap they have on one transaction... thanks a lot O.
Pancho Villa
11-07-2012, 09:17
Bad news: everyone here thinks prices will skyrocket.
Good news: these same people predicted a Romney landslide.
My guess, there will be a shortage or higher prices for a few months. Long term is a guessing game. BO has so much on his plate maybe he'll forget about guns. I'm waiting to see what he told Putin he would do after the election “When he had more flexibility”.
;) Me too.
We're going to find out what alot of shit means in the next year or so.
I see that the Dow Jones is down 200. At long last Wall Street might be seeing the full impact of Obamacare.
Bad news: everyone here thinks prices will skyrocket.
Good news: these same people predicted a Romney landslide.
Why do you have to go and inject reason/logic into this?! [Rant1]
Bad news: everyone here thinks prices will skyrocket.
Good news: these same people predicted a Romney landslide.
Question was about guns. Things will calm down in a bit once everyone realizes that nothing changed but right now there is a bit of a panic.
I'll admit I've been waiting for a nice high inflation level thanks to the fed but it hasn't happened yet. Maybe the smart people do actually know their job ;)
Canuckistani
11-07-2012, 09:27
Bad news: everyone here thinks prices will skyrocket.
Good news: these same people predicted a Romney landslide.
[ROFL3] Zing!
onebadfx4
11-07-2012, 09:36
I looked at a few things online last night. I looked again this morning at the same items - prices have either magically gone up or the items are now sold out.
A crystal ball isn't required to see the possibilities.
I picked up a lower yesterday for an upper I was going to buy online later in the day. Got home in the evening, the whole website was sold out of EVERYTHING.
sneakerd
11-07-2012, 09:39
Funny- because Aim Surplus and Centerfire Systems appear unchanged.
battle_sight_zero
11-07-2012, 09:48
There will be a rise in prices for a bit of time, but quite frankly not many people have the spare cash to buy firearms. A good chunk of Americans have spent their extra cash already to stay a float the last 4 years. Raises if any have been eaten up by the other costs of living. The buying will be done quickly and the dealers will raise prices. Sad situation for us all the way around. Don't think it had can be sustained for long , financialilly 2008 is a lot different than 2012. Quite frankly many of us did do some major buying from 2006- 2008 when things were better. For example it not cost me $3.50 a gallon to drive to Jensens in 2007. But I do remember the 1200 WASR AK of 2008. Things may suck today about how I feel about the election but i feel good about where I am in my inventory all the way around. The only thing that would scare me is if we had to reconfigure our rifles and such to be California compliant. However I don't see congress bringing up a AWB in the next two years. Some mass shootings could change this, but i just don't see it.
I picked up a lower yesterday for an upper I was going to buy online later in the day. Got home in the evening, the whole website was sold out of EVERYTHING.
Maybe they posted everything as sold out so they could reprice it all.
We have forsaken our future to our greed. This marks the end of an empire and a way of life.
I'm applying for government assistance today.. I figure I might as well suckle the teet too. Oddly enough I qualify :) This is a joke. I do qualify though
CDNN 9mm Glock mags:
yesterday morning - $19.95
last night, $21.95
this morning, $22.95
TargetsportsUSA PMC 55gr .223:
yesterday - $339/case/shipped
this morning - $379/case/shipped
BCM mid-length lightweight (non-BFH) 16" uppers:
yesterday, in-stock
today, sold out
sneakerd
11-07-2012, 10:06
The AMD-65 I bought last week for $439 is now $499. It was still $439 last weekend. The changes are beginnig, that was from Centerfire Systems.
kidicarus13
11-07-2012, 10:10
I'm applying for government assistance today.. I figure I might as well suckle the teet too. This is a joke. I do qualify though
If you don't, you're in the minority these days.
ChunkyMonkey
11-07-2012, 10:11
I'm applying for government assistance today.. I figure I might as well suckle the teet too. Oddly enough I qualify :) This is a joke. I do qualify though
Same here. It's ridiculous that I can qualified for food stamp because all of my income is on LLC.
hollohas
11-07-2012, 10:12
I don't think you guys remember how bad the firearms supply chain was in 2008/2009. I remember background check waits of hours, if not days, for a few months after the election. And that was IF you could find the gun you wanted.
Ammo sold out everywhere and supplies didn't stabilize truly for a couple years. Don't you remember we had daily updates in the Buyers Intel section just to tell each other if we saw some 9mm or 223 in stock somewhere?
When the ammo started selling out, then reloading supplies started selling out. You couldn't find primers or powder locally for a year. Even online supplies were limited.
Thankfully, I think the manufacturing capacity has been increased dramatically thanks to the major increase in $$ firearms manufactures have seen in the last 4 years. However, I do expect some panic buying to set in again.
Last time I thought it was silly and it pissed me off people were buying cases of primers as an investment. This time it may be justified.
Will we see another AWB? Yes, but not an outright ban. I think it will involve more taxes, licenses, more invasive background checks, medical records checks, no private party transfers, etc, etc. They will just make it awfully hard/expensive to be firearms owners. Then they can say "Hey, we didn't ban anything! You can still own them, but we just want to make sure you're SAFE."
Pancho Villa
11-07-2012, 10:14
I don't think you guys remember how bad the firearms supply chain was in 2008/2009. I remember background check waits of hours, if not days, for a few months after the election. And that was IF you could find the gun you wanted.
Ammo sold out everywhere and supplies didn't stabilize truly for a couple years. Don't you remember we had daily updates in the Buyers Intel section just to tell each other if we saw some 9mm or 223 in stock somewhere?
When the ammo started selling out, then reloading supplies started selling out. You couldn't find primers or powder locally for a year. Even online supplies were limited.
Thankfully, I think the manufacturing capacity has been increased dramatically thanks to the major increase in $$ firearms manufactures have seen in the last 4 years. However, I do expect some panic buying to set in again.
Last time I thought it was silly and it pissed me off people were buying cases of primers as an investment. This time it may be justified.
Will we see another AWB? Yes, but not an outright ban. I think it will involve more taxes, licenses, more invasive background checks, medical records checks, no private party transfers, etc, etc. They will just make it awfully hard/expensive to be firearms owners. Then they can say "Hey, we didn't ban anything! You can still own them, but we just want to make sure you're SAFE."
Shhh. Everyone's memory is too short for that.
ChunkyMonkey
11-07-2012, 10:16
Hmmm glock 33rd mag is going for $50 at glockstore. Wholesale is still the same.
hollohas
11-07-2012, 10:16
For grins and giggles I looked up pmags on Midway to see if the price went up. It didn't however, they have a limit of 5 per customer.
I'm applying for government assistance today.. I figure I might as well suckle the teet too. Oddly enough I qualify :) This is a joke. I do qualify though
A nation of teety babies!
I am guessing by a lot of the posts in this thread that most of you are too young to remember the first AWB. All of this talk about short term price increases and ammunition shortages are really no big deal compared to what could come.
I don't think you guys remember how bad the firearms supply chain was in 2008/2009. I remember background check waits of hours, if not days, for a few months after the election. And that was IF you could find the gun you wanted.
Ammo sold out everywhere and supplies didn't stabilize truly for a couple years. Don't you remember we had daily updates in the Buyers Intel section just to tell each other if we saw some 9mm or 223 in stock somewhere?
When the ammo started selling out, then reloading supplies started selling out. You couldn't find primers or powder locally for a year. Even online supplies were limited.
Thankfully, I think the manufacturing capacity has been increased dramatically thanks to the major increase in $$ firearms manufactures have seen in the last 4 years. However, I do expect some panic buying to set in again.
Last time I thought it was silly and it pissed me off people were buying cases of primers as an investment. This time it may be justified.
Will we see another AWB? Yes, but not an outright ban. I think it will involve more taxes, licenses, more invasive background checks, medical records checks, no private party transfers, etc, etc. They will just make it awfully hard/expensive to be firearms owners. Then they can say "Hey, we didn't ban anything! You can still own them, but we just want to make sure you're SAFE."Spot on. :(
Palmetto State Armory
Federal American Eagle 55 gr FMJ (AE223BK), 1K rounds:
31 Oct - $319.99
Today - $369.99
Hell, I'm going to take advantage of it. Gonna sell my AR for 3 grand to help cover my daughters $3500 Club Volleyball tab.....;)
buckeye4rnr
11-07-2012, 10:36
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HoneyBadger
11-07-2012, 10:44
I think everything is going to sky rocket, gas, food, electricity, ect ect ect. We're fucked
Yep. Cost of everything will go up. I fully expect gasoline to top $5 a gallon by middle of next summer. You can also expect to pay more in taxes over the net several years too. Unemployment rates will hit a new all-time high as well.
Maybe I'm wrong. But I doubt it.
Put me on the record as saying it now: You are partly wrong. Costs are not going up. If anything, they are going down. Here's the kicker: The US Dollar's value is plummeting - and it needs to. Several economists have proposed that the only way the United States could pay off the federal debt is to devalue the dollar until we have printed enough money to pay off our debt. [Bang]
Thankfully, I think the manufacturing capacity has been increased dramatically thanks to the major increase in $$ firearms manufactures have seen in the last 4 years. However, I do expect some panic buying to set in again.
I think you're right about this: the manufacturing base and supply chains are much more fortified than they were 4 years ago. Production of AR-15 parts and accessories is easily 5x more than it was in 2008. Look at the number of Pmags available now and how the prices have dropped over the past year. Windowed PMags used to be $20 each, now you can find them for as low as $12 each. Palmetto State Armory has been growing explosively and most companies have been able to keep most things in stock lately.
Will we see another AWB? Yes, but not an outright ban. I think it will involve more taxes, licenses, more invasive background checks, medical records checks, no private party transfers, etc, etc. They will just make it awfully hard/expensive to be firearms owners. Then they can say "Hey, we didn't ban anything! You can still own them, but we just want to make sure you're SAFE."
I also think you hit the nail right on the head with this one. In Chicago last year, the only thing that prevented a local $.05/rd tax was the fact that some ammo (such as .22LR) costs less than $.05/rd to begin with. This was the first attempt of many, and this threat will not be going away.
cfortune
11-07-2012, 11:39
Freedom Munitions asked people to calm down last night as they were being overrun with orders.
sneakerd
11-07-2012, 11:54
A word from the front lines... at The Firing Line, there has NOT been a mad purchasing rush.... yet. Immed after the last election, there was. The phones are pretty crazy, lots of people asking questions, but that's all. There will be no gouging at Firing Line.
Great-Kazoo
11-07-2012, 12:21
A word from the front lines... at The Firing Line, there has NOT been a mad purchasing rush.... yet. Immed after the last election, there was. The phones are pretty crazy, lots of people asking questions, but that's all. There will be no gouging at Firing Line.
Same for other stores i have called. Normal day with a slight up tic for purchases.
Outside of available funds at what point in time did you realize you needed to "Stock UP" on guns and ammo??? The mad rush to spend money when hopefully you have been prepared is amazing.
sellersm
11-07-2012, 12:29
I also think you hit the nail right on the head with this one. In Chicago last year, the only thing that prevented a local $.05/rd tax was the fact that some ammo (such as .22LR) costs less than $.05/rd to begin with. This was the first attempt of many, and this threat will not be going away.
^This. I'm sure there will be many more of these "let's test the waters" cases.
hollohas
11-07-2012, 12:29
Outside of available funds at what point in time did you realize you needed to "Stock UP" on guns and ammo???
Unfortunately for me, this time of year is when I have money to spend on stuff like this. Not good timing. But just because I have firearm funds now doesn't mean I will be buying anything at gouging rates. I don't need anything...just want. My money will stay in my pocket if/when prices get stupid.
hollohas
11-07-2012, 12:30
^This. I'm sure there will be many more of these "let's test the waters" cases.
It's like the Raptors in Jurassic Park. Just keep probing the defenses to find a weak point. Once they find it, all hell will break loose.
Great-Kazoo
11-07-2012, 12:32
^This. I'm sure there will be many more of these "let's test the waters" cases.
With 1 potential SC judge nominee, testing the waters might be met with open arms.
So, with the Republicans holding on to the House -- what can he really pass....for at least the next 2 years? They can easily defeat an outright AWB bill for now.
My concerns is, what happens in the Colorado Legislative? Are they going to pursue a Colorado law now that they have a majority?
Aloha_Shooter
11-07-2012, 13:00
You're talking about someone who has already told Congress to go do themselves. He doesn't think he needs a legislative AWB if he can issue executive orders that have the same effect. After yesterday, Harry Reid has a wider cushion to block any Republican attempts to mitigate Obama's actions.
So, with the Republicans holding on to the House -- what can he really pass....for at least the next 2 years? They can easily defeat an outright AWB bill for now.
My concerns is, what happens in the Colorado Legislative? Are they going to pursue a Colorado law now that they have a majority?
This was my fear when they announced the local election on 850 this morning... Are we headed toward CA or NY with gun legislation? If so, see ya! I'm moving to Montana! [Mad]
hollohas
11-07-2012, 13:27
So, with the Republicans holding on to the House -- what can he really pass....for at least the next 2 years? They can easily defeat an outright AWB bill for now.
My concerns is, what happens in the Colorado Legislative? Are they going to pursue a Colorado law now that they have a majority?
And the ATF has show a tendency to make new regulations without passing new laws as well (Multiple long gun purchase reporting in the SW). These people don't need the House to make it hard for gun owners.
funkymonkey1111
11-07-2012, 13:32
Freedom Munitions asked people to calm down last night as they were being overrun with orders.
i saw that--odd commentary from a business that the current admin and congress will try to shut down. you'd think they'd want sales when they could get them
hollohas
11-07-2012, 13:34
i saw that--odd commentary from a business that the current admin and congress will try to shut down. you'd think they'd want sales when they could get them
Inability to meet demand (usually perceived as bad customer service) can ruin a company much faster than future regulations.
Delfuego
11-07-2012, 13:36
People are causing this not the election. This is a "demand > supply" issue.
SouthPaw
11-07-2012, 13:56
People are causing this not the election. This is a "demand > supply" issue.
This is how I feel. Nothing has changed over night and nothing probably will for at least two years. It will calm down.
omegalopez
11-07-2012, 14:02
This was my fear when they announced the local election on 850 this morning... Are we headed toward CA or NY with gun legislation? If so, see ya! I'm moving to Montana! [Mad]
Dam, I just left CA because of there Gun legislation. I should of keep all my 10round mags and my Ar bullet buttons, I just removed them.[Bang][Bang][Bang]
Delfuego
11-07-2012, 14:49
Dam, I just left CA because of there Gun legislation.You should go home then...
This was my fear when they announced the local election on 850 this morning... Are we headed toward CA or NY with gun legislation? If so, see ya! I'm moving to Montana! [Mad]
Agreed -- or some other DEEP RED state.
Just got back from Sportsmans Warehouse and Walmart.
SW was busy, people buying ARs and ammo.
WM was busy before I got there, clerk said a guy came in around 8am and bought almost $900 worth of ammo and it had been steady all day.
hollohas
11-07-2012, 15:18
Agreed -- or some other DEEP RED state.
Even MT doesn't fall into this category anymore. They went blue for Gov, Senate and Secretary of the State.
buckshotbarlow
11-07-2012, 15:19
I think everything is going to sky rocket, gas, food, electricity, ect ect ect. We're fucked
don't forget land...land with water on it!
buckshotbarlow
11-07-2012, 15:25
used gun prices haven't risen...picked up a g21 gen3 today for 450...ok price.
*dusting off this thread*
Well, I guess this did indeed happen. How sad, huh? Just takes the mention of Gun Control and all the sheeple go into a feeding frenzy at the gun stores. Bunch of libs go buy guns cause even they hate the idea of being disarmed, etc. I just hope nothing passes, and this all dies down.
ChunkyMonkey
01-05-2013, 13:47
^^^ +1
*dusting off this thread*
Well, I guess this did indeed happen. How sad, huh? Just takes the mention of Gun Control and all the sheeple go into a feeding frenzy at the gun stores. Bunch of libs go buy guns cause even they hate the idea of being disarmed, etc. I just hope nothing passes, and this all dies down.
its getting insane just when i think ive seen everything there are now hks going for just a few thousand less then there full auto counterparts are [panic]
brokenscout
01-05-2013, 13:50
LOL
Bad news: everyone here thinks prices will skyrocket.
Good news: these same people predicted a Romney landslide.
islandermyk
01-05-2013, 13:50
It'll be so funny if nothing happens for the people that bought these $3000 DPMS AR15's, and $100 PMags....
...sorry... I'll just keep my mouth shut... [dig]
ChunkyMonkey
01-05-2013, 13:52
It'll be so funny if nothing happens for the people that bought these $3000 DPMS AR15's, and $100 PMags....
...sorry... I'll just keep my mouth shut... [dig]
It's only money. BTW You'd be missing out if you dont sell a thing!!!
islandermyk
01-05-2013, 13:55
It's only money. BTW You'd be missing out if you dont sell a thing!!!
That's my problem here..... I lost all my sh*t on a camping trip running away from bears [ROFL1]
brokenscout
01-05-2013, 13:57
Its going to be even funnier when that $3k DPMS is $5k ,lol.. JUst like when we thought gas prices would go back to normal..
islandermyk
01-05-2013, 14:00
Its going to be even funnier when that $3k DPMS is $5k ,lol.. JUst like when we thought gas prices would go back to normal..
[hahhah-no]
Wait a minute... Now i gotta get me one of those $3000 ar's [LOL]
ChunkyMonkey
01-05-2013, 14:02
That's my problem here..... I lost all my sh*t on a camping trip running away from bears [ROFL1]
Someone forgot to show you how bear gun works?
islandermyk
01-05-2013, 14:10
Someone forgot to show you how bear gun works?
I ran away screaming like a little girl... that is all [ROFL1]
*dusting off this thread*
Well, I guess this did indeed happen. How sad, huh? Just takes the mention of Gun Control and all the sheeple go into a feeding frenzy at the gun stores. Bunch of libs go buy guns cause even they hate the idea of being disarmed, etc. I just hope nothing passes, and this all dies down.
Good foresight, sir.
LOL
Bwahahaha
Great-Kazoo
01-05-2013, 16:05
Flash forward 3 months and i read this from 11/7. Who would have thunk it eh?
http://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by hollohas http://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ar-15.co/showthread.php?p=718581#post718581)
Thankfully, I think the manufacturing capacity has been increased dramatically thanks to the major increase in $$ firearms manufactures have seen in the last 4 years. However, I do expect some panic buying to set in again.
I think you're right about this: the manufacturing base and supply chains are much more fortified than they were 4 years ago. Production of AR-15 parts and accessories is easily 5x more than it was in 2008. Look at the number of Pmags available now and how the prices have dropped over the past year. Windowed PMags used to be $20 each, now you can find them for as low as $12 each. Palmetto State Armory has been growing explosively and most companies have been able to keep most things in stock lately.
That's my problem here..... I lost all my sh*t on a camping trip running away from bears [ROFL1]
Lost all of mine in what's come to be known as "The Great Canoe Accident". Everything went to the bottom of the lake.
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