15-20 states file petitions to secede

[alxone]

http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=75196
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/336662
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/11/15-states-including-texas-have-filed-a-petition-to-secede-from-the-united-states-2494002.html

[Coffee]

[Sawin]

Now if this were only legit... i've never heard of any of those sites before, and why is this not a media frenzy if true?

[BigBear]

Interesting... stupid (IMO), but interesting. Wonder if it'll gain any traction. Apparently they have one month to garner 25K signatures. Wonder if those sigs will now be on a "no fly" list, HAHA.

I see no press release on whitehouse.gov though and they obvisouly have more than 150 sigs as requested by those websites....

[brokenscout]

Still like it, lol

[alxone]

Now if this were only legit... i've never heard of any of those sites before, and why is this not a media frenzy if true?its just some crap i came across on the facecrank

[ronaldrwl]

I'm in! Or is it out?

[alan0269]

I wonder how many signatures they'd get if you didn't have to create an account with all of your personal information to do so. I'm sure the last thing most people that would consider signing the petition want to do is provide the current administration with all of their info and a signed statement that they want the state they live in to secede.

I see two problems with these people doing this (if it's legit):

1) They most likely will not get the signatures needed because of my point above.

2) The government will use it against them by saying that the people that agree with the concerns/beliefs of the people that created these petitions are a very small minority as they couldn't get the required 25K signatures.

[Ah Pook]

Didn't this happen once before?

Oh I wish I was in the land of cotton... http://forum.sputnik-sat.info/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif

[mahkcod]

Colorados link:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-colorado-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/lWDshfl3

[PugnacAutMortem]

I wonder how many signatures they'd get if you didn't have to create an account with all of your personal information to do so. I'm sure the last thing most people that would consider signing the petition want to do is provide the current administration with all of their info and a signed statement that they want the state they live in to secede.

I see two problems with these people doing this (if it's legit):

1) They most likely will not get the signatures needed because of my point above.

2) The government will use it against them by saying that the people that agree with the concerns/beliefs of the people that created these petitions are a very small minority as they couldn't get the required 25K signatures.

I'm even weary about buying a new gun now that O got reelected...when they pull the list of firearms owners to come "have a chat" with them I don't want my name up at the top.

I'm all for rebellion...but this seems sort of silly to me. It's kind of like the group in the south who has been trying to secede for the last umpteen years, it's a very small minority.

[Sawin]

4,501 signatures on CO's right now. Dec 10th is the deadline to reach 25,000. I don't see it happening.

[DavieD55]

Not even a possibility here, Not with Lickenstupid and the type of legislature we have now.

[budda]

I just checked the texas petition and it only needs 1,500 more signitures.

[brokenscout]

Do you have a link? I like Texas.:)
I just checked the texas petition and it only needs 1,500 more signitures.

[Danimal]

There was a pretty significant movement in Texas in 2010 led by Chuck Norris if I remember correctly. The election caused the whole thing to quiet down, but if something like that were to start again now it will not be long until the support grows large enough to at least get the signatures. If Texas succeeded in becoming its own nation I think that I might just have to start saying yall and relocate.

[budda]

Do you have a link? I like Texas.:)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B

[Sawin]

They only need 530 more in Texas!

[ronaldrwl]

Texas is over the required limit

[Sawin]

wow they're on it. I see it says TX needs 193 more signatures, but either way. They're coming in quickly....

[Ridge]

And nothing will come of it. Those petitions have zero legal standing.

[alan0269]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B

I clicked on that link for Texas and found that not only do they have over 25,000 signatures, I supposedly already signed that petition (copied the text and put below).

You've already signed this petition

Thank you for participating. Find other petitions you're interested in or start your own.

[alxone]

texas 25977 , more than enough
colorado 5426 more than 19000 to go
kinda makes you wonder what will happen ? nothing as ridge says or complete melt down of the country as we know it

[Sawin]

And nothing will come of it. Those petitions have zero legal standing.

You're probably right, but if enough Texans put this up on their facebook profiles, and make it go "viral" then something is going to happen... even if it's just further discussion about impacts and implications of secession. Discussion and rhetoric are good things as far as I'm concerned.

[wctriumph]

I signed, #5051 for CO to leave the union.

WTH, why not?





TEA

[Ridge]

You're probably right, but if enough Texans put this up on their facebook profiles, and make it go "viral" then something is going to happen... even if it's just further discussion about impacts and implications of secession. Discussion and rhetoric are good things as far as I'm concerned.

While clicking "Like" might have stopped Kony's reign of terror, I don't think it has quite enough power to dissolve a nation just yet.

[brokenscout]

Thank you,
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B

[alxone]

While clicking "Like" might have stopped Kony's reign of terror, I don't think it has quite enough power to dissolve a nation just yet.
lets hope not

[brokenscout]

Why not?[Coffee]
lets hope not

[palepainter]

8600 as of now.

[Aloha_Shooter]

26,000 "signatures" (not all of which are necessarily Texans) out of nearly 26,000,000 people ... even if the petition were legitimate and serious, the only thing this petition is good for is a laugh and to draw media attention (but it won't).

[hammer03]

While clicking "Like" might have stopped Kony's reign of terror, I don't think it has quite enough power to dissolve a nation just yet.
Sure seemed to work (if for a little while) for the OWS folks... If people with resources and actual commitment got behind it, who knows what a social revolution could accomplish. Especially suitably motivated.


Texas has over 40k sigs at the moment btw.

[brokenscout]

If any State will do it, I see Texas doing it first.... The worst thing about Obama getting elected is 4 more years of people on here bitching[Coffee]

[alxone]

If any State will do it, I see Texas doing it first.... The worst thing about Obama getting elected is 4 more years of people on here bitching[Coffee]i think folks would find something to bitch about with or without o-bummer in office

[Ronin13]

If TX does succeed in seceding [LOL], but the others don't- I hope this one doesn't happen:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/strip-citizenship-everyone-who-signed-petition-secede-and-exile-them/ZbMjcwPf
This seems a bit extreme and I would say even unconstitutional- doesn't the right to petition fit into the 1st Amendment?
I see this whole secession thing not getting a whole lot of traction... But hey, we can dream right?
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_of_the_governed), That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_revolution), and to institute new Government"

[CO Hugh]

Watching News this morning and they seem shocked that such petitions exist; obviously beyond the comprehension of the ruling class.

[brokenscout]

Oh so true[Coffee][BooHoo]
i think folks would find something to bitch about with or without o-bummer in office