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.455_Hunter
11-16-2012, 11:39
Greetings,

I just saw this on the Colorado Department of Labor / Division of Oil and Public Safety website concerning their offices at 633 17th Street in Downtown Denver:

The Division of Oil and Public Safety and the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment has a “Weapons-Free” policy. Should you have a weapon with you, please secure it in your vehicle before you enter the building to conduct business with the Division of Oil and Public Safety. Thank you for your cooperation.

Isn't this complete fantasy? In my review of the law, I see no way that they can restrict permitted concealed carry.

Please comment.

.455_Hunter

newracer
11-16-2012, 12:17
Actually they have metal detectors and a security guard that screens everyone coming in on at least one of the floors. I think it is on the floor that you have to go to first to check in.

.455_Hunter
11-16-2012, 12:26
I see. The last time I was down there they did not have the permanent check points in place. I figured this was an attempt at the old "my sign overrides state law" policy.

I wonder if they have lock boxes?

newracer
11-16-2012, 12:35
No lock boxes. When you get off the elevator the metal detector is right there. It is a weird setup, you have to go to the 3rd of 4th floor first, then to your destination. The metal detector and guard are only on the floor you check in at. You can actually go to other floors first but if you don't have a visitor badge you will get some unwanted attention. I go there occasionally to review OPS files, I was very surprised the first time.

.455_Hunter
11-16-2012, 12:48
I wonder if that really meets the requirement for:

A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which: (a) Security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building; (b) Security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and (c) Security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.

Hum?

TFOGGER
11-16-2012, 13:06
I seems that they should have the ability to secure your weapon to comply with the law, BUT most courthouses and other secured locations I have been in won't do this for "civilians".

KevDen2005
11-16-2012, 14:04
No, for real, this really works.

.455_Hunter
11-16-2012, 14:19
When I visited the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office (on Broncos Parkway) last year, they had no problems with me securing my civilian CCW piece in one of the lock-boxes by the security checkpoint. In my opinion, ALL places (public and private) should be required to provide lock boxes if they restrict legal carry.

O2HeN2
11-16-2012, 16:26
So can you physically go to any other floor without going to the 3rd floor first to get a badge? If so, this does NOT meet the requirements.

Bad guys don't need no steeken badges.

O2

newracer
11-16-2012, 17:44
I don't know about every floor but the floors I went to had lock doors just outside the elevator that someone had to buzz you in. I assume they can see you with video monitoring to see if you have a badge but I am not sure.

Irving
11-16-2012, 23:14
When I visited the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office (on Broncos Parkway) last year, they had no problems with me securing my civilian CCW piece in one of the lock-boxes by the security checkpoint. In my opinion, ALL places (public and private) should be required to provide lock boxes if they restrict legal carry.

EVERY place I've asked about this at has laughed in my face, or been super dicks about it. Denver court house told me I had to call the sheriff department ahead of time and turn my gun in over there, then go to the court house. It is bullshit that the law says they have to hold your piece, but they ignore it.

two shoes
11-17-2012, 00:07
I seems that they should have the ability to secure your weapon to comply with the law, BUT most courthouses and other secured locations I have been in won't do this for "CITIZENS".
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