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soldier-of-the-apocalypse
11-17-2012, 13:10
To carry concealed in your own buisness that is a retail location in denver?

TFOGGER
11-17-2012, 13:17
No.



C.R.S. 18-12-105

COLORADO REVISED STATUTES
*** This document reflects changes passed at the Second Regular Session and First Extraordinary Session
of the Sixty-Eighth General Assembly of the State of Colorado (2012) ***
TITLE 18. CRIMINAL CODE
ARTICLE 12. OFFENSES RELATING TO FIREARMS AND WEAPONS
PART 1. FIREARMS AND WEAPONS - GENERAL
C.R.S. 18-12-105 (2012)
18-12-105. Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon - unlawful possession of weapons



(1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully:

(a) Carries a knife concealed on or about his or her person; or

(b) Carries a firearm concealed on or about his or her person; or

(c) Without legal authority, carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a firearm or any explosive, incendiary, or other dangerous device on the property of or within any building in which the chambers, galleries, or offices of the general assembly, or either house thereof, are located, or in which a legislative hearing or meeting is being or is to be conducted, or in which the official office of any member, officer, or employee of the general assembly is located.

(d) (Deleted by amendment, L. 93, p. 964, § 1, effective July 1, 1993.)

(2) It shall not be an offense if the defendant was:

(a) A person in his or her own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under his or her control at the time of the act of carrying; or

(b) A person in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who carries a weapon for lawful protection of such person's or another's person or property while traveling; or

(c) A person who, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=34b4f94ae7a97a4ac4651ee6c5322d45&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=2&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2018-12-105.1&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzt-zSkAl&_md5=89d174c16e798b0e17f3569d2e4065cb), as it existed prior to its repeal, or, if the weapon involved was a handgun, held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=34b4f94ae7a97a4ac4651ee6c5322d45&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=3&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2018-12-214&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzt-zSkAl&_md5=2395bf051889acce09e565417d8fbd00); or

(d) A peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=34b4f94ae7a97a4ac4651ee6c5322d45&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=4&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2016-2.5-101&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzt-zSkAl&_md5=83095af5214c36cb5360e565e7033819), C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101 (2) (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=34b4f94ae7a97a4ac4651ee6c5322d45&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=5&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2016-2.5-101&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzt-zSkAl&_md5=ec7e41cac2f1dab0d2b2f32436f4da76), C.R.S.; or

(e) (Deleted by amendment, L. 2003, p. 1624, § 46, effective August 6, 2003.)

(f) A United States probation officer or a United States pretrial services officer while on duty and serving in the state of Colorado under the authority of rules and regulations promulgated by the judicial conference of the United States.

gos
11-17-2012, 20:38
Does that mean your own business, as in, you own the business? Or can any employee conceal carry without a permit?

TFOGGER
11-17-2012, 21:09
Does that mean your own business, as in, you own the business? Or can any employee conceal carry without a permit?
As long as one has the consent of the business owner, one can carry, whether they are employed there or not. This would include areas "under the control" of the business, such as a designated , off street parking area. As soon as you step off of private property, the provisions of the above statute kick in.

Hr2burn
11-28-2012, 20:03
Is the question asked because of it being in Denver? I just took my CCW class this last weekend and turned in my app to the jeffco sheriff yesterday. I am embarrassed to say, even though I paid very close attention, I really don't understand the rules of CCW in Colorado. Being the responsibility lies in my hands, I had better learn. Is Denver different than Jefferson? I was under the impression I could carry anywhere as long as it doesn't have alcohol consumption or of course a grade school.

Irving
11-28-2012, 20:15
Denver follows its own rules, so it is always good to ask concerning Denver.

There is no restriction in carrying places that sell or serve alcohol.

TFOGGER
11-28-2012, 20:48
Is the question asked because of it being in Denver? I just took my CCW class this last weekend and turned in my app to the jeffco sheriff yesterday. I am embarrassed to say, even though I paid very close attention, I really don't understand the rules of CCW in Colorado. Being the responsibility lies in my hands, I had better learn. Is Denver different than Jefferson? I was under the impression I could carry anywhere as long as it doesn't have alcohol consumption or of course a grade school.

State law supersedes local ordinance in ALL cases (even the People's republic of Denver) per CRS 18-12-201:



C.R.S. 18-12-201

COLORADO REVISED STATUTES
*** This document reflects changes passed at the Second Regular Session and First Extraordinary Session
of the Sixty-Eighth General Assembly of the State of Colorado (2012) ***
TITLE 18. CRIMINAL CODE
ARTICLE 12. OFFENSES RELATING TO FIREARMS AND WEAPONS
PART 2. PERMITS TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUNS
C.R.S. 18-12-201 (2012)
18-12-201. Legislative declaration



(1) The general assembly finds that:

(a) There exists a widespread inconsistency among jurisdictions within the state with regard to the issuance of permits to carry concealed handguns and identification of areas of the state where it is lawful to carry concealed handguns;

(b) This inconsistency among jurisdictions creates public uncertainty regarding the areas of the state in which it is lawful to carry concealed handguns;

(c) Inconsistency results in the arbitrary and capricious denial of permits to carry concealed handguns based on the jurisdiction of residence rather than the qualifications for obtaining a permit;

(d) The criteria and procedures for the lawful carrying of concealed handguns historically has been regulated by state statute and should be consistent throughout the state to ensure the consistent implementation of state law; and

(e) It is necessary that the state occupy the field of regulation of the bearing of concealed handguns since the issuance of a concealed handgun permit is based on a person's constitutional right of self-protection and there is a prevailing state interest in ensuring that no citizen is arbitrarily denied a concealed handgun permit and in ensuring that the laws controlling the use of the permit are consistent throughout the state.

(2) Based on the findings specified in subsection (1) of this section, the general assembly hereby concludes that:

(a) The permitting and carrying of concealed handguns is a matter of statewide concern; and

(b) It is necessary to provide statewide uniform standards for issuing permits to carry concealed handguns for self-defense.

(3) In accordance with the findings and conclusions specified in subsections (1) and (2) of this section, the general assembly hereby instructs each sheriff to implement and administer the provisions of this part 2. The general assembly does not delegate to the sheriffs the authority to regulate or restrict the issuance of permits provided for in this part 2 beyond the provisions of this part 2. An action or rule that encumbers the permit process by placing burdens on the applicant beyond those sworn statements and specified documents detailed in this part 2 or that creates restrictions beyond those specified in this part 2 is in conflict with the intent of this part 2 and is prohibited.


According to CRS 18-12-214, you may carry in ALL areas of the state, except as outlined below:



C.R.S. 18-12-214

COLORADO REVISED STATUTES
*** This document reflects changes passed at the Second Regular Session and First Extraordinary Session
of the Sixty-Eighth General Assembly of the State of Colorado (2012) ***
TITLE 18. CRIMINAL CODE
ARTICLE 12. OFFENSES RELATING TO FIREARMS AND WEAPONS
PART 2. PERMITS TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUNS
C.R.S. 18-12-214 (2012)
18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions



(1) (a) A permit to carry a concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all areas of the state, except as specifically limited in this section. A permit does not authorize the permittee to use a handgun in a manner that would violate a provision of state law. A local government does not have authority to adopt or enforce an ordinance or resolution that would conflict with any provision of this part 2.

(b) A peace officer may temporarily disarm a permittee, incident to a lawful stop of the permittee. The peace officer shall return the handgun to the permittee prior to discharging the permittee from the scene.

(2) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

(3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except that:

(a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked;

(b) A permittee who is employed or retained by contract by a school district as a school security officer may carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the permittee is on duty;

(c) A permittee may carry a concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that is used for hunting or other shooting sports.

(4) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which:

(a) Security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building;

(b) Security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and

(c) Security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.

(5) Nothing in this part 2 shall be construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of a private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business entity.

(6) The provisions of this section apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-209 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=9b8c700cb8a410d0a021ed55458ec424&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-214%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=2&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2018-12-209&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLbVzt-zSkAz&_md5=371dd3acef47921a73bf79397de1c8b8).

Private property owners may allow or prohibit carry without restriction.

Primary and secondary schools are schools under the statute, regardless of if they are public or private.

Monky
11-28-2012, 20:52
your spelling is illegal!

TFOGGER
11-28-2012, 21:12
Speel checck iz optionnnal

Clint45
11-29-2012, 06:58
State law supersedes local ordinance in ALL cases (even the People's republic of Denver) per CRS 18-12-201

That is true, but DPD might still arrest and book you, which could be inconvenient, especially if the matter falls into a technical grey area . . . such as a convenience store employee who is the only person in the store during the overnight shift (thereby making the store "under his/her control"), but without a CCW permit or the express permission of the franchise owner or the parent corporation.

TFOGGER
11-29-2012, 08:32
I'd think that one would have to be a monumental tool to the cop in order for that to happen, absent a complaint from someone else for menacing or brandishing, or if the clerk was a prohibited person. Denver may claim all kinds autonomy as a home rule city, but they tread lightly on CCW issues, as they have had their fingers burned a number of times.