View Full Version : Anonymous launches cyber-terrorism attack on Israel
I always knew these heathens were scum, now it's just reaffirmed...
Hackers target Israel with millions of attacks as Hamas rockets continue to fall
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Even as Israel fends off relentless rocket attacks from Gaza, government and private websites are under siege from hackers, who have mounted 44 million cyberattacks in less than a week, the government said.
The international hacker collective Anonymous, which has broken into websites of international banks, governments and even the CIA, said it mounted #OpIsrael to protest Israel’s “Operation Pillar of Defense” against rocket attacks launched from the Gaza Strip.
“The reasons for Anonymous intervention through #OpIsrael should be abundantly clear: What is happening in Palestine is oppression,” Anonymous declared. They have no navy, no army, or air force. There is no war in Gaza.”
One site’s homepage was replaced with an image of a man wearing a Palestinian keffiyeh and the message: “This attack is in response to the injustice against the Palestinian people.”
“For far too long, Anonymous has stood by with the rest of the world and watched in despair the barbaric, brutal and despicable treatment of the Palestinian people in the so called ‘Occupied Territories’ by the Israel Defense Forces," the release said.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/19/hackers-target-israel-with-millions-attacks-as-hamas-rockets-continue-to-fall/#ixzz2ChNcsgkg
I say, anyone who supports Anonymous and their continued criminal, and terrorist activities should be looked at very cautiously.
From a completely uninformed, naive American, who is pro-Israel solely based on the biblical perspective recollected from childhood, who's the good guy and who's the bad guy in this conflict? Please enlighten me from any perspective.... I simply want to be less-uninformed.
Well historically speaking, there are two schools of thought with this conflict. 1 being that Palestine was an Arab state first and that we simply "gave" Israel the country in 1948 following WWII and the need for the Jewish people to have their own land. The other side of that, the one I agree with, was historically, the Israelites (now Israelis) formed the state of Israel after their Exodus from Egypt, perhaps 1,000 years or more before Islam. Since 1948, the Israelis have had an official, sovereign homeland that is recognized by the world (with the exception of the majority of Islamic states). The Palestinian Authority (the de-facto leadership of the Palestinian people) have repeatedly refused to compromise with Israeli leadership time and time again to reach a peace, and continues to support terrorist organizations like the PLO, and Hamas. In terms of who's the good guy and who's the bad guy, it would be accepted that Israel, a nation we helped to found, is the good guy in this conflict, and any terrorist organization indiscriminately attacking Israel (meaning innocents will be killed on purpose) is the bad guy. [Beer]
Bailey Guns
11-19-2012, 17:33
The "Palestinian State" is a myth. I hope Israel nukes all those phuckers...Anonymous, too.
The "Palestinian State" is a myth. I hope Israel nukes all those phuckers...Anonymous, too.
**Simply to play devil's advocate for a second.... buuuut you see, there was such a place as "Palestine" in the Bible too... wasn't there? **
SA Friday
11-19-2012, 18:00
The "Palestinian State" is a myth. I hope Israel nukes all those phuckers...Anonymous, too.
^^^^This^^^^^
This conflict may very well boil over to another war involving Israel. Personally, I wouldn't be even remotely shocked if there is IRGC Qud forces in the area stirring the Hamas pot in this one. The more Israel is engaged with these morons, the less they can possibly bomb the shit out if Iran, and that's how Iran plays it. They will use Hamas as pawns and push them into the fire to save their own asses from the whooping they know is coming. For all their sabre rattling, Iran knows if Israel decides to start bombing sites in their country, they don't have the weapon systems to stop them.
Using that same thousand year logic about Israel... SO that means you are for the establishment of the US in favor of giving all the land back to the Indians where were here 1000 years ago too. That thousand year argument is pure crap. Because where does it end?
Bailey Guns
11-19-2012, 18:17
Who didn't see that coming? Raise your hand.
Using that same thousand year logic about Israel... SO that means you are for the establishment of the US in favor of giving all the land back to the Indians where were here 1000 years ago too. That thousand year argument is pure crap. Because where does it end?
Apples and oranges... We immigrated to this country, we purchase huge tracts of land... it wasn't nearly the same as the Muslims conquering the "holy lands" of Israel and claiming it for their own (the attitude of "we named it holy more recently, therefore it's more holy to US!") and leaving the Israelites with no land. It was originally their land, and I'm not disputing the Indians deserve their own land, we set up a system where everyone can live the way they want. Palestine set up a system where everyone can live the way they want- as long as they follow Sharia law and the ways of Islam. So no, not pure crap. Oh nynco... [Shake]
Diesel24
11-19-2012, 18:24
Who didn't see that coming? Raise your hand.
[ROFL2]
Apples and oranges... We immigrated to this country, we purchase huge tracts of land... it wasn't nearly the same as the Muslims conquering the "holy lands" of Israel and claiming it for their own (the attitude of "we named it holy more recently, therefore it's more holy to US!") and leaving the Israelites with no land. It was originally their land, and I'm not disputing the Indians deserve their own land, we set up a system where everyone can live the way they want. Palestine set up a system where everyone can live the way they want- as long as they follow Sharia law and the ways of Islam. So no, not pure crap. Oh nynco... [Shake]
It's originally Indian land... pretty much all of the US and I am sure most all of them would claim holy land rights. Its not much different no matter how much you want to spin it to not be. I don't support either side in that shit storm. I say fuck Israel and fuck Palestine. There is no right side in that never ending BS. It also does very little good for the US to be involved in it either.
SA Friday
11-19-2012, 18:40
It's originally Indian land... pretty much all of the US and I am sure most all of them would claim holy land rights. Its not much different no matter how much you want to spin it to not be. I don't support either side in that shit storm. I say fuck Israel and fuck Palestine. There is no right side in that never ending BS. It also does very little good for the US to be involved in it either.
The comparison of Native Americans and Palestinians may have a lot of similarities, but as a whole, are entirely different issues. Even the Arabs will tell you the Palestinians are a people who have never had a country. I know. I've asked many of them in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Qatar. They consider them much like an Arab gypsy tribe that nobody wants in their country, so they support their occupation and eventual ownership of Israel. Ironically, if you ask them what would happen if this did occur and all the jews were removed, they all resoundingly say that one of the other Arab states would take what is now Israel over to control the holy sites. They would also drive the palestinians out to the dredges again.
Rucker61
11-19-2012, 18:49
Regardless of the justness of either side's arguments, it's pretty simple: Don't want to get bombed by Israel? Don't shoot rockets at them. The Palestinians know that there is always retaliation, and they damn well know the points made by SA Friday with regards to their position in the Arab world. It sucks to have what they have, but live with it. Or get bombed.
The problem with Anonymous is they are...anonymous. And the Israelis don't always make public they're operations.
So some other 'anonymous' organization won't announce that the guy that died in a car accident in France was an Anonymous member. Or the guy that dropped dead of a heart attack in Ireland was Anonymous. Or other deaths or disappearances around the world all had an unknown-to-the-public connection to some hackers organization.
Anonymous has survived as long as they have because they haven't attacked the wrong people.
Bailey Guns
11-19-2012, 19:06
Didn't the Romans actually rename the land of Canaan (or Promised Land), Palestine?
USAFGopherMike
11-19-2012, 19:31
The problem with Anonymous is they are...anonymous. .
Only to the public. Be careful what you wish for.
Using that same thousand year logic about Israel... SO that means you are for the establishment of the US in favor of giving all the land back to the Indians where were here 1000 years ago too. That thousand year argument is pure crap. Because where does it end?
I think the phrase you are looking for is Native American!
While we’re at it should Australia be returned to the Aborigines, the list can go on?
As for Israel, I’d rather have them as allies or neighbors than some of the other Middle East Nations.
trlcavscout
11-19-2012, 20:01
Fuck around, fuck around, soon you wont be around.
Bailey Guns
11-19-2012, 20:08
I have little sympathy for Hamas or those that support Hamas. Maybe the Israelis will solve this problem for good this time around. Of course, the pansy-ass liberals will be all over the news with pictures of dead Arab babies killed by the big, bad Jews. Probably won't see a picture of a dead Jew, though. Or Jewish homes destroyed by Hamas rockets. It'll be all about the poor "Palestinians". And the Israelis will back down again, before finishing the job, because they don't want to be perceived as the bad guys.
How long are the Jews going to have to put up with Arab bullshit?
theGinsue
11-19-2012, 20:46
Using that same thousand year logic about Israel... SO that means you are for the establishment of the US in favor of giving all the land back to the Indians where were here 1000 years ago too. That thousand year argument is pure crap. Because where does it end?
Stealing the land from the Israelites was a concerted effort by MANY nations over many generations. After the atrocities against them by the Axis powers (not just the Germans - and even more actions turning a blind eye) in WWII, the most powerful nations of the word felt they deserved their homeland back. Millions upon millions of lives for a few acres of no-so-prime land was the least they were owed.
Besides, just because millions of illegals cross the border from Mexico and squat in California doesn't make CA into a Mexican territory. The same holds true for Muslims in Israeli territory.
Who didn't see that coming? Raise your hand.
I know I did.
I say fuck Israel and fuck Palestine. There is no right side in that never ending BS. It also does very little good for the US to be involved in it either.
You've apparently no grasp on the strength and resolve of the nation of Israel. Having Israel as an ally is the smartest move any nation could make. To maintain international favor, the nation of Israel has shown amazing restraint. I have little doubt that they could effectively stop this growing Muslim threat if they chose to, but it would also mean the end of their existence.
Middle-Eastern tribe X vs. Middle-Eastern tribe Y. They don't get along very well, and they never will. Their squabbles used to be newsworthy, not so much anymore.
Now, if they had oil, things might be different.
USAFGopherMike
11-19-2012, 21:11
Besides, just because millions of illegals cross the border from Mexico and squat in California doesn't make CA into a Mexican territory. The same holds true for Muslims in Israeli territory.
20% of the people who reelected BHO would disagree. For the record, I look at the mexican border a lot like the Israeli/palestinian problem. If it were me, I'd just kick the Palestinians out and retake what's rightfully theirs. Of course, it doesn't help when their biggest ally turns its back politically.
You've apparently no grasp on the strength and resolve of the nation of Israel. Having Israel as an ally is the smartest move any nation could make. To maintain international favor, the nation of Israel has shown amazing restraint. I have little doubt that they could effectively stop this growing Muslim threat if they chose to, but it would also mean the end of their existence.
Indeed. They've defended themselves before. They'll do it again. FACT: Israeli Air Force pilots have more combat experience than any other nation. Unfortunately, Air Superiority will not solve the problem against an asymetric terrorist force. We've learned that the hard way.
mevshooter
11-19-2012, 21:34
I'll get this out of the way first, then just move on to the brass tacks of the situation.
I support Israel because I do believe they are God's chosen people and He will ultimately defend them from annihilation from all people, including us if our screwed up .gov decided to go there. I support them because it is a core value of my faith.
Now, no, you may not quote that and trash my opinion because I'm going to state some things that have nothing to do with my spiritual views.
If Israel falls, the world has almost zero buffer against the rising evil known as Islam, because frankly we cannot depend on our own country right now. Israel is a nation of what, 20 million? With a religion full of over 1 BILLION who want them wiped off the face of the earth? If not for Israel, the middle east will fall into an even greater unchecked chaos and let loose all of their hate for all things western, and all things non-muslim.
The world NEEDS Israel. FACT, not opinion.
USAFGopherMike
11-19-2012, 22:00
If Israel falls, the world has almost zero buffer against the rising evil known as Islam, because frankly we cannot depend on our own country right now. Israel is a nation of what, 20 million? With a religion full of over 1 BILLION who want them wiped off the face of the earth? If not for Israel, the middle east will fall into an even greater unchecked chaos and let loose all of their hate for all things western, and all things non-muslim.
The world NEEDS Israel. FACT, not opinion.
Well put.
Well put.
I agree... Mev, you have a way of presenting it pretty plainly and black and white. As harsh at it may seem, if Israel falls, the world is soon to follow. The shadow of Fundamentalist Islam (the bad kind that people keep trying to downplay, yet it is core to the leadership and governance of countries like Pakistan, Iran, Lebanon, Egypt, and what Saudi Arabia could be one day) is ever looming over the region, and seeing from history, they won't be content with just that area, they will certainly attempt to spread their influence to the rest of the world, until the ultimate goal, a global caliphate, is achieved. They don't hide this fact, they publicly speak about this all the time... yes, even here in the U.S.- Look at MI.
USAFGopherMike
11-19-2012, 22:26
I agree... Mev, you have a way of presenting it pretty plainly and black and white. As harsh at it may seem, if Israel falls, the world is soon to follow. The shadow of Fundamentalist Islam (the bad kind that people keep trying to downplay, yet it is core to the leadership and governance of countries like Pakistan, Iran, Lebanon, Egypt, and what Saudi Arabia could be one day) is ever looming over the region, and seeing from history, they won't be content with just that area, they will certainly attempt to spread their influence to the rest of the world, until the ultimate goal, a global caliphate, is achieved. They don't hide this fact, they publicly speak about this all the time... yes, even here in the U.S.- Look at MI.
Yup. If this doesn't scare you, it should. All the guns in the world won't matter at that point.
Using that same thousand year logic about Israel... SO that means you are for the establishment of the US in favor of giving all the land back to the Indians where were here 1000 years ago too. That thousand year argument is pure crap. Because where does it end?
works for me...being 1/8th indian I imagine I am in for a shitload of land.
on topic: I hope the nukes fly.
KestrelBike
11-19-2012, 22:56
Stealing the land from the Israelites was a concerted effort by MANY nations over many generations. After the atrocities against them by the Axis powers (not just the Germans - and even more actions turning a blind eye) in WWII, the most powerful nations of the word felt they deserved their homeland back. Millions upon millions of lives for a few acres of no-so-prime land was the least they were owed.
Besides, just because millions of illegals cross the border from Mexico and squat in California doesn't make CA into a Mexican territory. The same holds true for Muslims in Israeli territory.
I know I did.
You've apparently no grasp on the strength and resolve of the nation of Israel. Having Israel as an ally is the smartest move any nation could make. To maintain international favor, the nation of Israel has shown amazing restraint. I have little doubt that they could effectively stop this growing Muslim threat if they chose to, but it would also mean the end of their existence.
Re: California: one of my last memories before moving here was of driving in Santa Ana and going on the other side of the tracks, and the English language was no longer to be seen, the Public School electronic bulletin boards were completely in Spanish, and used car lots had a line of flagpoles with nothing but the mexican flag flying from them.
The liberal media sure is slobbering all over hamas' knob lately. Ironic given that Israelis aren't the ones who stone or shoot their daughters for kissing a boy or looking at him in his bathing suit. And last month they were crying a flipping river over mitt romneys supposed stances on abortion crowing over women's rights.
USAFGopherMike
11-19-2012, 23:46
CNN reporters in Gaza talking about the devastation rather than Israel where the missiles are hitting? WTF.
cfortune
11-20-2012, 00:48
The problem with Anonymous is they are...anonymous. And the Israelis don't always make public they're operations.
So some other 'anonymous' organization won't announce that the guy that died in a car accident in France was an Anonymous member. Or the guy that dropped dead of a heart attack in Ireland was Anonymous. Or other deaths or disappearances around the world all had an unknown-to-the-public connection to some hackers organization.
Anonymous has survived as long as they have because they haven't attacked the wrong people.
If the whole Anon/Zeta Cartel thing is true, they couldn't keep all of their identities a secret from the cartel.
Uberjager
11-20-2012, 01:46
"Hurr durr I am onynmous... nevar forgive nevar forget."
I find the whole "anonymous hacker" thing very funny. Most of them barely qualify as script kiddies using LOIC, and I'm sure that less than half a percent are capable of deploying bot-nets, SQL injection, et cetera. For all the hype surrounding them, you would've thought they would be able to obtain measurable results.
Byte Stryke
11-20-2012, 04:55
Apples and oranges... We immigrated to this country, we purchase huge tracts of land... it wasn't nearly the same as the Muslims conquering the "holy lands" of Israel and claiming it for their own (the attitude of "we named it holy more recently, therefore it's more holy to US!") and leaving the Israelites with no land. It was originally their land, and I'm not disputing the Indians deserve their own land, we set up a system where everyone can live the way they want. Palestine set up a system where everyone can live the way they want- as long as they follow Sharia law and the ways of Islam. So no, not pure crap. Oh nynco... [Shake]
No, I am pretty sure there was a wholesale genocide of the indigenous peoples followed by the settlement and/or sale of their lands
<MADDOG>
11-20-2012, 07:41
No, I am pretty sure there was a wholesale genocide of the indigenous peoples followed by the settlement and/or sale of their lands
Concur. I think quite a few people need to revisit history, on both MI and American history.
Byte Stryke
11-20-2012, 08:21
Free clue for Hammas.
Don't Shoot at Israel from a school yard, Hide behind children and then scream bloody murder when the kids get hurt.
YOU DID IT!
Not in any way trying to start a debate/argument on religion here, as these are just my personal beliefs. (But beliefs I hold very strongly, nonetheless)
The following verses are enough for me to believe that standing with Israel is the only way to continue in God's blessing. I think that as a nation, we've been somewhat lucky so far to have avoided utter catastrophe despite repeatedly denying our Creator and Christian heritage.
Psalm 83: 1-18
O God, do not keep silence; do not hold your peace or be still, O God! For behold, your enemies make an uproar; those who hate you have raised their heads. They lay crafty plans against your people; they consult together against your treasured ones. They say, “Come, let us wipe them out as a nation; let the name of Israel be remembered no more!” For they conspire with one accord; against you they make a covenant
Isaiah 41: 11-12 Behold, all who are incensed against you shall be put to shame and confounded; those who strive against you shall be as nothing and shall perish. You shall seek those who contend with you, but you shall not find them; those who war against you shall be as nothing at all.
funkymonkey1111
11-20-2012, 11:13
**Simply to play devil's advocate for a second.... buuuut you see, there was such a place as "Palestine" in the Bible too... wasn't there? **
http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-who-plays-devils-advocate-really-just-wants-to,5622/
I honestly think this whole thing with Anonymous getting involved is simply hilarious. If there were one group I were to piss off.. it would not be the group who openly discuss assassinating leaders and people who have wronged them. For all we do know about who they've taken out.. we don't know anything about the ones that stayed hidden.
Countries have been fighting for control of the 'Holy Land' for as long as there has been one.. They'll continue to fight for it. Whoever controls it will eventually lose it. It'll be brutal and bloody just like all the years past.. Someone will knock down someones temple and build a different holy house and then it'll start all over again.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-who-plays-devils-advocate-really-just-wants-to,5622/
hardy har har. I bet you've been waiting for a long time to use that link. [Flower]
hollohas
11-20-2012, 14:35
No, I am pretty sure there was a wholesale genocide of the indigenous peoples followed by the settlement and/or sale of their lands
And this^ is pretty much how the entire modern world was formed. One group of people taking land from another weaker group...almost always involving at least some of them being killed. Some won, some lost. Tough cookies for the losers.
Israel is getting pretty darn good at defending their home. Those are some tough SOB's.
BushMasterBoy
11-20-2012, 16:06
Jesus was born in England and taken to Israel by Joseph of Aramithea, then he was conscripted into the Roman Army. Soldier on...
Aloha_Shooter
11-20-2012, 17:08
For what it's worth, the "Palestine" referred to historically IS Jewish Israel. The Transjordanians calling themselves "Palestinians" is just another example of masterful public relations. The fact of the matter is that the "Palestinian people" was a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts, creating a nation and separate people where none had existed before in order to confuse people about the Arab war against Israel and deflect accusations of anti-Jewish bias.
Note the Jewish Diaspora was not a voluntary one and wasn't even complete -- there were still Jews living in Baghdad and Gaza recently!
Israel has some pretty good coders themselves; it will be interesting to see an actual cyberwar at play regardless of outcome. In the meantime, I fully support Israel's right to return fire on anyone launching those missiles.
Kraven251
11-20-2012, 18:18
Generally speaking I look at the Gaza strip like that bit of calking when you are finishing installing a bathtub. I look at Israel like the finishing tool preparing to smooth it out and just make it all nice and level.
I do not support genocide, but when your fundamental belief is that I shouldn't be breathing you make a strong argument for me to rethink my position on the subject.
Generally speaking I look at the Gaza strip like that bit of calking when you are finishing installing a bathtub. I look at Israel like the finishing tool preparing to smooth it out and just make it all nice and level.
I do not support genocide, but when your fundamental belief is that I shouldn't be breathing you make a strong argument for me to rethink my position on the subject.
My thoughts exactly.
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