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OK. This is going to sound a little weird. I have knives that are suitable for just about most purposes.... dressing game, cooking, general camp duty, cutting threads off my clothes, opening boxes, etc. But... looking at my knives I don't really see anything that would truly be suited for hand to hand combat. With the possible end of the world coming soon, the ever looming zombie apocalypse, and the recent re-election of Obama, it seems fitting that I should add something to my collection suitable for fighting.
You know.... just in case.
So, anyone have any recommendations for me?
Thanks. [Beer]
USAFGopherMike
11-19-2012, 19:51
Not too big, not too heavy, easy to handle quickly, and not a folder. The rest is preference IMO. Somebody with way more knowledge and wicked knife fighting experience will be along to give you theirs.
I only carry one knife; a CQC from Emerson and I've been very happy with it:
http://www.emersonknives.com/ekTheKnives_Tact.php
The waiting list is rediculous, but they make great knives.
Not too big, not too heavy, easy to handle quickly, and not a folder.
I have some that fit that bill but I don't think they are fit for fighting due to the lack of a good guard (bolster?) to keep my hand from slipping up onto the blade if used in a stabbing motion.
I know almost nothing about knife fighting and I am sure there are a lot of good choices. But I've handled one of the first gen Temperance a few times and it is the most weaponized knife I've ever held.
This is the Temperance 2:
http://www.knifeworks.com/images/products/detail/FB05P2.jpg
Maybe it depends on what knife fighting style?
For a cheap stabbing type knife, the Glock knife isn't too bad. You can even sharpen the swedge...
https://store.teamglock.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/k/n/knifeblack_big.jpg
For chopping zombies in half you could get something like the Becker Combat Bowie.
http://www.knifeworks.com/images/products/detail/bk9_1.jpg
Cold steel has a lot of affordable knives theoretically designed for fighting, if you can get past their ridonkulous marketing.
http://www.knifeworks.com/images/products/detail/10BC.jpg
StagLefty
11-19-2012, 22:27
Have you looked at K-Bars ?
Have you looked at K-Bars ?
Like the old U.S.M.C. style knife?
Chris Reeves makes a pretty kewl knife for combat, but they are pricey as hell.
http://www2.knifecenter.com/item/CRKPAC/Chris-Reeve-Pacific-6-inch-S35VN-Blade-Combat-Knife
Yikes. That might be a bit more than I am willing to spend.
SA Friday
11-19-2012, 23:08
Randall Model 1
hghclsswhitetrsh
11-19-2012, 23:24
Prison shank?
StagLefty
11-20-2012, 09:29
Like the old U.S.M.C. style knife?
Yup-also affordable:
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/StagLefty/Knives/K-Bars.jpg
I like that short ka-bar. Looks like a handy size.
I have a Ka-Bar and it's the sh*t! I love that knife- and it added a bit of intimidation factor while working among locals while I was in Afghanistan. [Beer]
Sykes-Fairbain. Still the standard for edged weapon fighting.
Yikes. That might be a bit more than I am willing to spend.
So do you want to stab, slice, or chop?
Fentonite
11-20-2012, 21:54
KA-BAR.
yes, as a former Marine, I'm prejudiced. But the balance and feel can't be beat (for me - I know it's a personal choice). If you want to check one out, let me know.
johngraves2
11-20-2012, 22:17
Try the Gerber LMF II, the Ontario OKC3S, or the classic KA-BAR. I have all three, love all three, they are all kinda similar but still different enough.
So do you want to stab, slice, or chop?
Yes. [Coffee]
At the affordable end, the Greco MST. About $125.
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL686/2648371/6918264/400922191.jpg
A little up the scales, Mad Dog ATAK. North side of $1400.
https://steeladdictionknives.com/store/images/knives/atak1111.jpg
DSB OUTDOORS
11-21-2012, 19:06
Have you looked at K-Bars ?
^^^^ This. I love all my K-Bar knives, but I would choose my K-Bar Tanto knife. For a fighting blade.
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/public/OA1yDpzWC4S6aveudoRsEHasvmlngQ9YyNG4419nYoBHFOkUJx E_kRmD4Wl1QgCUOqFqVipOyLMhAPpPQr0UrV2h6mikhT7bfMKF Q0tCSYduSbRGy8NVAv2iHVU4gWZg8yaBqC0ym5AGbbyalGIoId daURjUzcPIw1cq9AF6tfZGRBHUEPDGRv95vxQf4ieEllqqdtic M9b2N8ynnvLGyla1cp4ycccsPycBFURsKNc46n-9ORIVEarhL9uP6Rxy1V6NgBRIBIawZrjMGE9n932JVIkrASVGw 95ud4_KA5FvDg=s220-c
StagLefty
11-21-2012, 20:46
Picked up the folding tanto at the Ready Room before he closed.
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/StagLefty/Knives/tanto.jpg
Randall Model 1
For the WIN!
liberty19
11-27-2012, 08:24
My favorite is my Surefire Echo. Not too big and not to small.
This is why I called dibs on one of the Kukris that Skully had for sale a while back. Don't have it yet, been out of town, but soon. Not into knife fighting personally, but I wanted something that would scare the shit out of people and keep 'em away.
Don't be fooled into thinking that having a 'combat' knife means you can use it effectively. Having a knife and knowing how to use it are two totally different things.
Unrelated in a way..but where the hell can I get a real Bayo for a modern AR?
JM Ver. 2.0
11-27-2012, 11:39
Prison shank?
I can get you an unlimited supply of those if you want em.
get an old k-bar. Learn to use the knife is more important than the knife itself.
Don't be fooled into thinking that having a 'combat' knife means you can use it effectively.
I understand. Kind of like having a guitar doesn't mean I can play the damn thing. [Awesom]
So, I finally decided what I wanted. I was inspired by this piece of advice....
Sykes-Fairbain. Still the standard for edged weapon fighting.
But it wasn't exactly what I was looking for. But it lead me to looking at the M3 trench knife which I found to be similar. But real ones are more than I wanted to spend and even newer reproductions are around $70.
Then I stumbled across another design that I liked. Although reviews were somewhat mixed, I liked the style and the fact that it was made out of a spring steel that should hold up well to abuse. The fact that I found it on sale for around $21 was a huge plus too. I ordered it the other day and should have it in a few days.
What did I end up with?
A Glock 78.
Thanks, everyone. [Beer]
Here's the new Glock. Fresh out of the package. [Awesom]
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/rjs1970/photo-44.jpg
StagLefty
12-05-2012, 21:32
Your starting to remind me of me and how I ended up with a locker full of knives-it's just like the BRD !!
Your starting to remind me of me and how I ended up with a locker full of knives-it's just like the BRD !!
Hey, there's a difference. I've seen your pictures. You have several knives that were probably over $100. This thing only set me back $21. [Coffee]
I like the glock knife. Mine came pretty dull. After a good deal of attention with the sharpmaker it took a nice edge. The point/tip was most disappointing and took a lot of work to get to a nice fine point. I don't pretend to know anything about fighting with it. But I made it sharp. I used the sandpaper convex edge method initially, but couldn't come close to the double bevel edge Sal condones using his sharpmaker.
I'm curious to know what you think about the sheath. I find it very secure, but awkward to access with one hand.
I don't pretend to know anything about fighting with it.
Me neither. All I know is the pointy end goes towards the enemy. [Coffee]
I'm curious to know what you think about the sheath. I find it very secure, but awkward to access with one hand.
Ditto. I'm working too much to play with it right now. I think with a little practice it might be manageable. I'll shoot a little video if I come up with a good technique.
I have wanted a Busse battle mistress, or a Chris Reeve Jereboam for a long time now. The wife just can't handle the price of them... One can wish though.
http://imageshack.us/a/img218/5432/picture8274.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Chris-Reeve-Jereboam-MkII-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqVHJEIFCdM5o,4MBQwnG8D!Iw~~60_57.JPG
As a student of various martial arts, including fencing and knife fighting, I am of the opinion that a walking stick or cane beats a knife every time. It has more reach, delivers more immediate 'target' incapacitation and is already in your hand. (It also is much easier to explain to local LEOs than a 9" sub-hilt fighter.) There is an old story about an English quarter-staff master who killed several Spanish swordsmen in a 'gentlemanly contest' (while a captive) during the Elizabethan-era war between their respective countries. I dare say Spanish swordsmen of that day were probably better fighters than most modern gang-bangers or would-be Jim Bowie types.
It is a good idea, however, to be able to use a knife properly, if that's all you have. I would place 'combat' suitability near the bottom of the list of required attributes for a knife.
I understand. Kind of like having a guitar doesn't mean I can play the damn thing. [Awesom]
Except when you learn to play the guitar you dont get cut. You will need someone to practice with, Cold steel makes some really nice training knives. find something that fits your hand well has good balance in your hand and stay awy from double edged as they limit the defensive use of the knife (when you bring it back against your forearm to block you risck cutting yourself). hatever knife you decide on buy 2, practice with the first one, as you will damage it while learning no good way around that. There are a few good books, and videos out there on the subject, and a few places that do classes. The old SAS guys hated the Sykes Fairbairn said it was to long so they would grind them down that is how the original Applegate Fairbain was created. I'e heard good things about Jim Hock. Then there is the all important part this is a last ditch skill there are folks out there that will take your knife away from you and use it on you and make it look easy, even after you cut him open
Troublco
12-16-2012, 19:51
I have a couple of Ka-bars, including my late cousin's issue piece. The only thing I don't like about them is the tip is a bit delicate, and easy to break. The cousin's knife was broken this way when I got it; I re-ground the tip to more of a spear point. Otherwise, Ka-bars are great.
However, as mentioned by Hobowh, knives are a last ditch tool for combat. If you're talking about a combat situation, I consider a pistol to be a tool used to acquire a rifle. Same with a knife.
I like that Glock knife, if I was in the market for a new one I'd definitely look into it. Being former Army I still have the tanto point k bar I carried on my flight survival vest and my wife has a standard one from her Navy days plus a few knives her grandfather made. I also still have the issue survival knife, but it really isn't that great, hence why I bought a better one.
Cylinder Head
12-29-2012, 01:32
Hard to get a better quality knife than a Kramer
http://www.kramercustomknives.com/
I have a "Gutshot" from him and it is gorgeous, and invincible.
TheWeatherman
12-30-2012, 16:33
I don't know if this is a bit late, but if you want a fighting knife; something that is intended to fight with and work with your body? Look at Steve Rollert's website,
http://www.keenedgeknives.com
He has been making knives for a long time. He makes trainers and live blades.
Cheffrey
12-31-2012, 00:08
Cold Steel really offers a great value in ALL types of blades. From hunting to fighting to zombie destruction, take a look at their Special Projects catalogue for some great deals. With the lower prices. You won't be afraid to actually use and abuse the thing.
http://www.ltspecpro.com/
Check out the Bark River Bravo series.
http://www.knivesshipfree.com/index.php?cPath=465_853
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TheWeeze
01-15-2013, 14:22
I'd highly recommend the CRKT Ultima. I have one and I absolutely love it. Actually have 3 different CRKT knives, including my EDC.
http://www.crkt.com/Ultima-5in-Black-Blade-Veff-Combo-Edge
Also available in a non serrated edge.
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