Disrespect at Arlington Natl' Cemetary [Archive] - Colorado AR-15 Shooters Club Discussion Forums

Ronin13

11-20-2012, 11:00

The company put out an unofficial apology, but the official apology should start with "The bitch has been fragged."
At least that's what I would do if she were my employee... Never disrespect our fallen like that.
This is what I wrote to her company:
I'm sure this isn't the first message you've received on this matter, but I'm writing you in response to seeing a picture of one of your employees, Lindsey Stone, and I see that you have attempted to separate yourself from this issue by stating that the photo does not represent your opinions. However, this employee represents your company, and regardless of where you stand on the picture she still gives your company a bad name. I am in no way telling you how to run your company, but I would suggest firing this individual for her blatant disrespect of both our nation's fallen heroes and your company. As a veteran, I would also like to see this person issue a formal apology to everyone for this disrespect.
Thank you.

sneakerd

11-20-2012, 11:04

Did you see this company is a non-profit dealing with the "intellectually challenged"? What a bunch of liberal on-the-dole trash.

Tinelement

11-20-2012, 11:12

Wow.
She probably wipes her ass with Our flag too.

ChunkyMonkey

11-20-2012, 11:26

LIFE drives their income from medicaid patients. I'd start calling medicaid case managers and put pressure there.

cstone

11-20-2012, 11:27

There is no relation. I've never met or heard of Lindsey Stone in my life.

I am a veteran. I find her actions, the actions of the photographer, and the person who posted the photograph to be reprehensible. Clearly they have a point to make and they have made it. I disagree and find their level of disrespect for the men and women who have died defending their rights, sad.

The employer in this case is a non-profit adult living center where they care for the mentally disabled. To attack this organization would most likely result in a decrease in the level of care provided for people who need it most. I would suspect that there are some employees at this center that agree with Ms. Stone. I would not assume that all of the employees agree with her and therefore do not believe it would be just to punish all of the employees and subsequently all of the residents at this facility for the poor behavior of Ms. Stone and those who took and posted the photograph.

I don't know what should happen to Ms. Stone for her actions in this case. Perhaps the President can host a beer summit for her, the photographer, and some wounded veterans /sarcasm

I do know that Mob Justice never turns out the way you want it to. I'm glad this incident has been publicized. I believe we have the same level of Free Speech as possessed by those we disagree with, like Ms. Stone. I suspect that in the end, Ms. Stone's five minutes of fame will be shortlived and she will go back to her life with a different attitude. She could learn from this experience that her actions have consequences and that she should put more thought into them or she could be emboldened to be a spokesperson for her convictions, aka Cindy Sheehan. Either way, life goes on.

I find Arlington National Cemetery to be the ultimate political statement. In order to punish Robert E. Lee after the Civil War, they turned his home into a burial ground making it completely uninhabitable for him and his family. It was over 100 years before the Lee family could receive any type of compensation for the confiscation of their family property, and the compensation was more symbolic than actual market value compensation. Regardless of what you think about the Civil War, Robert E. Lee was the veteran's veteran. He served his country for decades before the war and never regained his full citizenship during his lifetime. To walk through the Custis-Lee mansion and then walk through the cemetery always reinforces a real respect for the sacrifices made by so many, for all of us.

Be safe.

sneakerd

11-20-2012, 11:34

cstone- you make an excellent point- I did not think of it that way- just reacted viscerally to the photograph.

Ronin13

11-20-2012, 11:50

Now she's backpedaling...
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/61467_518429061509648_573009582_n.jpg

dwalker460

11-20-2012, 11:52

Well thats what you get when your entire life is a series of photo ops you put out for the public to interpret on thier own... Dumbass

Ronin13

11-20-2012, 11:57

And worse- she claims they meant no disrespect in their actions, but it was a blatant disrespect, regardless of what they meant. "No officer, obviously I didn't MEAN to kill all those people by driving my car on a busy sidewalk." [Bang] Cumb dunt.

Byte Stryke

11-20-2012, 12:09

You cannot un-ring a bell.

and I wouldn't hit that with a truck

Whistler

11-20-2012, 12:28

Clint45

11-20-2012, 13:07

"Obviously" - who could interpret that image as "meaning" disrespect? Like I can fathom the workings of a Liberal mind... it's a picture of you acting disrespectfully but your intention makes it all better. [Bang]

From the oversized sunglasses and plastic watchband, my guess is she's another clueless hipster trying to be "ironic."

Rooskibar03

11-20-2012, 14:11

Her employers response.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/643888_10152282730855494_671536860_n.png

kidicarus13

11-20-2012, 14:16

Seems appropriate

NMB2

11-20-2012, 14:17

I will sleep much better tonight knowing this:

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/11/20/facebook-photo-of-plymouth-woman-at-tomb-of-the-unknowns-sparks-outrage/

Clint45

11-20-2012, 14:51

I will sleep much better tonight knowing this:

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/11/20/facebook-photo-of-plymouth-woman-at-tomb-of-the-unknowns-sparks-outrage/

That is awesome. Whenever a prospective employer or date googles either of their names that will be on the first page of results. [LOL]

SuperiorDG

11-20-2012, 14:59

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/602341_496058867092174_156486866_n.jpg

Rust_shackleford

11-20-2012, 15:00

Yeah I'm not too upset. Stupid move.

Jake76

11-20-2012, 15:48

If she's disrespecting those that have sacrificed their lives for the betterment of the country, what's she doing to those that are in her care?

Scary thought.

beast556

11-20-2012, 16:44

SICKENING!!!!!!!!!!! I'm at a loss for words and you know dam well she is not sorry one bit.

Kraven251

11-20-2012, 16:52

Did you see this company is a non-profit dealing with the "intellectually challenged"? What a bunch of liberal on-the-dole trash.

She's not only an employee, she is a client.

bryjcom

11-20-2012, 16:59

She's not only an employee, she is a client.

Nice!!!

jerrymrc

11-20-2012, 17:50

I like the part about private facebook. Like I have said time and time again. If you put it out on the net anywhere someone will see it. People are so stupid.

trlcavscout

11-20-2012, 20:12

Stupid bitch.

Bailey Guns

11-20-2012, 20:19

If I were emperor, that would be a hangin' offense. That bitch deserves no sympathy. Neither does her friend who took the photo. I'm wishing very bad things upon the both of them.

I'm very pleased with the way the employer is dealing with this.

Now...if anything could get me to open a FB account, it's this. It would be worth it just to be able to post on her page what a worthless scumbag of a person I think she is.

AirbornePathogen

11-20-2012, 21:07

Somebody's started a "Fire Lindsey Stone" page on Facebook. It was posted there a little while ago that they spoke to someone at her company, and were told that she'll be fired. This is not confirmed.

th3w01f

11-20-2012, 21:08

It's crap like this that causes me to close and then re-open my FB account. I know we have a lot of friends who are very liberal and I just love to show them what their brethren are like without stooping to their level. Then I get bored and suspend the account again. It's also under my wife's name and I'm not friends with any co-workers so I feel pretty safe.

If I were emperor, that would be a hangin' offense. That bitch deserves no sympathy. Neither does her friend who took the photo. I'm wishing very bad things upon the both of them.

I'm very pleased with the way the employer is dealing with this.

Now...if anything could get me to open a FB account, it's this. It would be worth it just to be able to post on her page what a worthless scumbag of a person I think she is.

Irving

11-20-2012, 22:20

The moral of this story is that if you are going to try and be funny by doing the opposite of what a sign says, make sure it is not a sign located in a place that is important to anyone.

Whistler

11-20-2012, 22:24

I think she should prank "Don't feed the bears" next, that'll make a great pic!

sneakerd

11-20-2012, 22:27

Her life is now permanently screwed, because she's a douchebag. At least she knows it.

spqrzilla

11-20-2012, 23:17

Its a stupid gag, but that's it. Its just a stupid gag.

sneakerd

11-20-2012, 23:28

I'm surprised it wasn't on O'Reilly tonight.

hghclsswhitetrsh

11-20-2012, 23:37

I think she should prank "Don't feed the bears" next, that'll make a great pic!

Haha awesome!

On a serious note, WTF?! Not acceptable.

Colorado_Outback

11-21-2012, 00:13

Her response is classic. What do you mean you were offended by my blatantly offensive picture?!
Dumbass.

DavieD55

11-21-2012, 02:33

I'm sure she is one of those who goes around telling people how wonderful she is because she is tolerant and diverse.

What a loser!

ChadAmberg

11-21-2012, 09:17

I think she should prank "Don't feed the bears" next, that'll make a great pic!

"Stay off active flight line"

or even better

http://www.military-videos.com/manage2/gallery/minefield%20(Small).jpg

PugnacAutMortem

11-21-2012, 09:49

Its a stupid gag, but that's it. Its just a stupid gag.

I tend to agree with this viewpoint. Look, I fully understand and respect the former/current military members on this board. But does this genuinely surprise/shock anyone? She's obviously a tasteless human being, but I have to draw the line at people wishing bad things upon her. As it pertains to my philosophy on life, I believe that the only way that someone's word or actions can emotionally affect me is if I allow them to have that power over me. I refuse to allow anyone to affect how I feel and I see the inability to do that as weakness. Like I said, that's my own thing and take it as you may.

Bottom line though, it's a picture. Don't give her the satisfaction of wasting energy being mad at her/wishing bad things upon her.

ChadAmberg

11-21-2012, 10:42

There's now an apology:

OK, here is the Official apology from Lindsay Stone(One on the Picture), and Jamie Schuh(One that took the picture).

"We sincerely apologize for all the pain we have caused by posting the picture we took in Washington DC on Facebook. While posted on a public forum, the picture was intended only for our own amusement. We never meant any disrespect to any of the people nationwide who have served this country and defended our freedom so valiantly. It was meant merely as a visual pun, intending to depict the exact opposite of what the sign said, and had absolutely nothing to do with the location it was taken or the people represented there. We never meant to cause any harm or disrespect to anyone, particularly our men and women in uniform. We realize it was in incredibly poor taste, and are deeply sorry for the offense we have caused.

We also sincerely apologize to LIFE, Inc. It is an amazing organization that provides invaluable services to adults with learning and developmental disabilities. We are beyond remorseful that our actions have caused them such undue public scrutiny. The disrespect implied by our picture has nothing at all to do with LIFE’s mission statement or values. We regret having caused any suffering to the staff members, residents, families and friends.

Again, we very sincerely apologize to everyone who took offense to the photo. We realize that it was an ignorant and distasteful thing for us to do, but we truly meant no harm. We are deeply sorry."

Ah Pook

11-21-2012, 11:16

I have no problem being a douche bag and challenging authority but disrespecting those that fought and died for your right to do so is uncalled for.

Inconel710

11-21-2012, 12:19

Its a stupid gag, but that's it. Its just a stupid gag.

An unbelievably stupid gag.

It really does show a complete ignorance of the history and significance of Arlington. I've been there a couple of times and it's emotionally overwhelming, but then I come from a completely different background. Arlington means something to me. I recognize some of the names and know who owned it before it was a cemetary. It's that sense of history that this woman doesn't have.

ThunderSquirrel

11-21-2012, 12:21

I have no problem being a douche bag and challenging authority but disrespecting those that fought and died for your right to do so is uncalled for.

That is my feeling exactly.

two shoes

11-21-2012, 12:32

I have no problem being a douche bag and challenging authority but disrespecting those that fought and died for your right to do so is uncalled for.
Therein lies the irony.... those soldiers secured her right to do that. Just like burning the Flag, I do not approve of it, do not like it, but have served my country so that other people may speak their mind, and do stupid shit like this, no matter how pathetic they are...It goes against common decency (none too common anymore).

I believe she will get her just rewards and reap what she has sewn.

cofi

11-21-2012, 13:22

There's now an apology:

hope that bitch chokes on a drumstick

Ronin13

11-21-2012, 13:41

Her dad made an appearance...
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/11/20/Father-Of-Woman-Flipping-Bird-To-Arlington-Memorial-Speaks-Out

Danimal

11-21-2012, 15:07

I tend to agree with this viewpoint. Look, I fully understand and respect the former/current military members on this board. But does this genuinely surprise/shock anyone? She's obviously a tasteless human being, but I have to draw the line at people wishing bad things upon her. As it pertains to my philosophy on life, I believe that the only way that someone's word or actions can emotionally affect me is if I allow them to have that power over me. I refuse to allow anyone to affect how I feel and I see the inability to do that as weakness. Like I said, that's my own thing and take it as you may.

Bottom line though, it's a picture. Don't give her the satisfaction of wasting energy being mad at her/wishing bad things upon her.

You might feel differently if you had close friends that died fighting right next to you and are laid to rest there. Emotions on that level are a lot higher than your detached sense of respect for their sacrifice. This goes beyond a simple action, there is a disconnect in her reality so deep that it would not even occur to her that people died some of the most gruesome deaths imaginable to serve and protect this nation and her freedom. The word Respect is on that sign for a very explicit reason, and her self-righteous dumb ass is so wrapped up in her own little world that she did not care to think before she acted. I wish the worst upon her, not for self satisfaction of emotional outlash, but so she be made an example of so that others may learn to think outside their pretty little existences before they act.

Bailey Guns

11-21-2012, 18:11

They're still disgusting human beings who showed an extreme disrespect to the country and it's veterans. But I can accept the apology and move on. I have a feeling they realize how tasteless this little display was.

Bailey Guns

11-21-2012, 18:16

Dad looked like he wanted to cry. I feel sorry for him having to explain the idiocy of his daughter.

Byte Stryke

11-21-2012, 18:22

Character is that thing you do when you think no one is looking

JM Ver. 2.0

11-21-2012, 18:52

It was meant merely as a visual pun, intending to depict the exact opposite of what the sign said, and had absolutely nothing to do with the location it was taken or the people represented there.

So... Opposite of the "Respect" part too?

Morons... [facepalm]

Great-Kazoo

11-21-2012, 19:07

See here is how it works. She does something that generates a shitload of negative buzz. it rolls uphill to her place of employment. Apologies are issued and all is good again in LALA land.

Let's change it up a few.

White guy is shown burning a Mexican or African flag. Need i say more?
Hell what was the international outcry over showing Islamist bodies being pissed on..
SO........................................ it is ok for some to do something ethically incorrect, PROVIDING THEY SIT ON THE LIBERAL SIDE OF THE FENCE

Irving

11-21-2012, 19:44

spittoon

11-21-2012, 19:50

Punch her in the taco Paco.

X2

KestrelBike

11-21-2012, 20:10

I find Arlington National Cemetery to be the ultimate political statement. In order to punish Robert E. Lee after the Civil War, they turned his home into a burial ground making it completely uninhabitable for him and his family. It was over 100 years before the Lee family could receive any type of compensation for the confiscation of their family property, and the compensation was more symbolic than actual market value compensation. Regardless of what you think about the Civil War, Robert E. Lee was the veteran's veteran. He served his country for decades before the war and never regained his full citizenship during his lifetime. To walk through the Custis-Lee mansion and then walk through the cemetery always reinforces a real respect for the sacrifices made by so many, for all of us.

Be safe.

Wow I did not know that, thank you for sharing that part. Although I was a history major in school, it was all European & Asian and focused on the 20th century. I really need to brush up on my American History.

PugnacAutMortem

11-21-2012, 20:22

You might feel differently if you had close friends that died fighting right next to you and are laid to rest there. Emotions on that level are a lot higher than your detached sense of respect for their sacrifice. This goes beyond a simple action, there is a disconnect in her reality so deep that it would not even occur to her that people died some of the most gruesome deaths imaginable to serve and protect this nation and her freedom. The word Respect is on that sign for a very explicit reason, and her self-righteous dumb ass is so wrapped up in her own little world that she did not care to think before she acted. I wish the worst upon her, not for self satisfaction of emotional outlash, but so she be made an example of so that others may learn to think outside their pretty little existences before they act.

You might be right. But wishing bad things upon someone else puts you down at her level. Live and let live. If there is someone who wants to be disrespectful to this country and those who fight for it...ignore them. They live a sad life and don't need any attention. It's just negative reinforcement.

streetglideok

11-21-2012, 20:48

They canned her today, in case anyone didn't hear yet.

newracer

11-21-2012, 23:25

Both were fired.

spqrzilla

11-21-2012, 23:25

An unbelievably stupid gag.

It really does show a complete ignorance of the history and significance of Arlington. I've been there a couple of times and it's emotionally overwhelming, but then I come from a completely different background. Arlington means something to me. I recognize some of the names and know who owned it before it was a cemetary. It's that sense of history that this woman doesn't have.

I agree.

However, I don't think that the entire Internet needs to get its panties in a wad because one silly tw*t is photographed in a stupid offensive gag. She's not the President embarrassing the nation. She's just a stupid little gash.

Great-Kazoo

11-22-2012, 00:30

I agree.

However, I don't think that the entire Internet needs to get its panties in a wad because one silly tw*t is photographed in a stupid offensive gag. She's not the President embarrassing the nation. She's just a stupid little gash.

But one day she could grow up to be:(

babirl

11-22-2012, 01:10

Both were fired.

Justified and may they both rot in hell!

Gives me a glimmer of hope for our country and the people in spite of current reality... ANYBODY that isn't moved or respectful when visiting Arlington is truly an "enemies... DOMESTIC" personified!

B2

Aloha_Shooter

11-22-2012, 02:28

Justified and may they both rot in hell! Gives me a glimmer of hope for our country and the people in spite of current reality... ANYBODY that isn't moved or respectful when visiting Arlington is truly an "enemies... DOMESTIC" personified!

I think they deserved the firing BUT it should stop there. The gal in the picture apologized; we'll never know if it was sincere or not but it was definitely long so I think she got the message. I'll reserve the "rot in hell" for Hanoi Jane who never has apologized for her treasonous conduct. One of the things about Reagan that annoyed me was that he refused to take action against her because of the pain it would have caused his old friend, her father.

I don't know about anyone else's training but mine said you punish promptly and privately then move on. You also praise promptly and publicly but that has no bearing in this situation. Her employer took action, she and her friend have been given reason to learn their lessons (even Red Eye made fun of them tonight), time to drop it and get back to berating the President for bankrupting the country.

TheBelly

11-22-2012, 02:42

Can she now get on the unemployment bandwagon and have us pay for her to be unemployed?

mcantar18c

11-22-2012, 03:19

Therein lies the irony.... those soldiers secured her right to do that. Just like burning the Flag, I do not approve of it, do not like it, but have served my country so that other people may speak their mind, and do stupid shit like this, no matter how pathetic they are...It goes against common decency (none too common anymore).

I believe she will get her just rewards and reap what she has sewn.
What the Constitution guarantees, what we fight to protect, is the right to free speech/freedom of expression. NOWHERE in the Constitution does it guarantee you immunity from the consequences of your actions.
She is well within her rights to speak her mind/say/do stupid shit. If her chosen actions bring a nations worth of angry vets down on her head, well that's her own doing.

sroz

11-22-2012, 08:12

But one day she could grow up to be:(

Damn it, now you had to go and say that. Sad thing is, you're right. It' s turkey day & I'm already depressed bout something that may happen 30 years down the road.

Troublco

11-22-2012, 08:37

What the Constitution guarantees, what we fight to protect, is the right to free speech/freedom of expression. NOWHERE in the Constitution does it guarantee you immunity from the consequences of your actions.
She is well within her rights to speak her mind/say/do stupid shit. If her chosen actions bring a nations worth of angry vets down on her head, well that's her own doing.

This. She had the freedom to do what she did, but she has the ramifications of her actions to consider. Perhaps she'll learn from this. And hopefully others will too.

Great-Kazoo

11-22-2012, 09:06

Damn it, now you had to go and say that. Sad thing is, you're right. It' s turkey day & I'm already depressed bout something that may happen 30 years down the road.

Cheer up. In 30yrs i'll be gone, so you will not hear or read shit like this again:)

Byte Stryke

11-23-2012, 09:15

There is Justice.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/22/nonprofit-worker-fired-after-photo-scandal-at-arlington-national-cemetery/?test=latestnews

While I firmly agree she has the right to express herself, I have the right to protest her actions and her employers has the right to kick her ass to the curb.

Everyone has the right to free speech, with every right comes responsibility. I believe she forgot that part.

sneakerd

11-23-2012, 10:10

Her facebook page is gone as well. Sleep well douchebag!

kidicarus13

11-23-2012, 11:19

I feel sorry for her dad. During the interview he seemed genuinely disappointed and embarassed about his daughter's attempt at humor on social media. I hope she loses several other job opportunities after her prospective employers find her story on the web.

spqrzilla

11-23-2012, 19:49

I really wonder if that is overkill for her stupidity. Just how long do you think she should be "sentenced" to unemployment for that act of being a tw*t.

sneakerd

11-23-2012, 19:53

I'm sure that she'll find a job at some liberal nonprofit that agrees with her douchebag point of view.

PugnacAutMortem

11-23-2012, 20:31

Man I'm telling you guys wishing bad things upon someone for doing something you disagree with is messed up. That's really similar to how liberals acted in response to the whole Chick Fil A thing. Liberal didn't just want to boycott them...then wanted every restaurant wiped off the face of the planet. I'm not calling anyone here a liberal (I have come to see that is a cardinal sin around here) but I'm just saying for as anti-liberal as people are around here I would think there would be a different response.

sneakerd

11-23-2012, 20:37

You make a great point and I get it. It is just very hard to be Jesus when the other side is so "evil".

USAFGopherMike

11-23-2012, 20:46

Is there any question who she voted for?

sneakerd

11-23-2012, 20:58

None in my mind.

PugnacAutMortem

11-23-2012, 21:03

You make a great point and I get it. It is just very hard to be Jesus when the other side is so "evil".

If it were easy to do that this country would be in a lot better of a place I would imagine. I definitely understand why everyone gets super pissed about this...I really do. I guess I just have a very short list of reasons to wish harm upon someone.

Actually...I don't really wish harm upon anyone. If they get to the point where I wish harm was done to them, I'll be doing the harming [LOL]