CCW Question

[Scogin]

One of my employees just moved here from Georgia. He has a CCW permit from Georgia. Now that he is living here does he need to get a new permit in Colorado or can he continue to use his Georgia permit.

[J]

When he establishes residency here, he must get a colorado permit. If georgia allows non resident permits it is still valid in states that accept a non resident georgia permit. If not, it is void. Also important to note, colorado doesn't accept any non resident permits. So once he establishes residency here, his Georgia permit isn't valid here.

[275RLTW]

IIf he has a CO id, then he needs a CO permit. All others are void once he has a CO id card/drivers license. If he still has his GA id, he can check the reciprocity at the CBI website.

[spqrzilla]

When he establishes residency here, he must get a colorado permit. If georgia allows non resident permits it is still valid in states that accept a non resident georgia permit. If not, it is void. Also important to note, colorado doesn't accept any non resident permits. So once he establishes residency here, his Georgia permit isn't valid here.
Your comment is a bit shorthand and may confuse some. What I think you are saying (correctly) is that Colorado does not recognize out of state permits for Colorado residents. Colorado will give non-Colorado residents reciprocity as shown on the Colorado AG's list (found on the CBI website).

There is a grace period during which a newly Colorado resident with an out of state permit can apply for a Colorado permit. It is 90 days after you get a Colorado ID. So the day you get a Colorado ID, you should have your application filed with your local sheriff.

[J]

My point was about non-resident permits, not out of state permits. To elaborate:

Colorado does not honor any non-resident permit. This was my point. It doesn't matter if you are a Colorado resident or not. For your permit to be valid in Colorado, the permit must be issued from your state of residence. If you are from Florida, Colorado, California, or (insert other state here) your Utah permit is not valid in Colorado UNLESS you are a resident of Utah.

However, if you have a permit that is issued by your state of residence, and that list is on the Colorado reciprocity list, your permit is good. If you are a Colorado resident, only a Colorado permit is valid here. Likewise if you are a New Mexico resident, only a New Mexico permit is valid here.

I hope this was a better explanation??

[spqrzilla]

Yes, but still not exactly correct. The example being the OP's question. For 90 days colorado does recognize a "non resident" permit in that the person moving here from another state is a "non resident" of the issuing state and yet their permit is good.

[275RLTW]

Yes, but still not exactly correct. The example being the OP's question. For 90 days colorado does recognize a "non resident" permit in that the person moving here from another state is a "non resident" of the issuing state and yet their permit is good.

There is no statute in CRS to support that opinion. Current ID/DL and CCW permit must be from the same state in CO. No CO id, then use reciprocity list. If CO id, then MUST have a CO CCW to carry concealed legally. Once you apply for your CO DL, you get a paper copy with a hole punched in your old out of state DL that you can use a proof of identity for the Sheriff.

[agentutah]

About to move to California. Any advise on the CCW process there

[Inconel710]

About to move to California. Any advise on the CCW process there

Hahahahahaha!!!! Good luck. Move to a county with a sheriff that actually issues permits. Calguns can probably steer you in the right direction.

[spqrzilla]

There is no statute in CRS to support that opinion. Current ID/DL and CCW permit must be from the same state in CO. No CO id, then use reciprocity list. If CO id, then MUST have a CO CCW to carry concealed legally. Once you apply for your CO DL, you get a paper copy with a hole punched in your old out of state DL that you can use a proof of identity for the Sheriff.
Not correct. My opinion is based upon statute is 18-12-213 which reads:

18-12-213. Reciprocity

(1) A permit to carry a concealed handgun or a concealed weapon that is issued by a state that recognizes the validity of permits issued pursuant to this part 2 shall be valid in this state in all respects as a permit issued pursuant to this part 2 if the permit is issued to a person who is:

(a) Twenty-one years of age or older; and

(b) (I) A resident of the state that issued the permit, as demonstrated by the address stated on a valid picture identification that is issued by the state that issued the permit and is carried by the permit holder; or

(II) A resident of Colorado for no more than ninety days, as determined by the date of issuance on a valid picture identification issued by Colorado and carried by the permit holder.

(2) For purposes of this section, a "valid picture identification" means a driver's license or a state identification issued in lieu of a driver's license.

Bolded part is what I'm applying. Note that the resident of the state issuing language is a part of 213(1)(b)(I) and not a part of 213(1)(b)(II).

[275RLTW]

Not correct. My opinion is based upon statute is 18-12-213 which reads:
Bolded part is what I'm applying. Note that the resident of the state issuing language is a part of 213(1)(b)(I) and not a part of 213(1)(b)(II).

Exactly as I stated. After 90 days you must have a valid CO id. All others are not valid in CO after 90 days unless accompanied by military orders. If under 90 days,
follow recipricity list. Key point is after 90 days there is no reciprocity as you must file for a CO id at that time and also a CO CCW permit.

[spqrzilla]

Well, no, that's not exactly as you stated. You stated that a permit issued to a non-resident of the issuing state was never recognized. The statute says that a permit issued to a non-resident of the issuing state would be recognized to a new Colorado resident for 90 days. And you said that with a Colorado ID, you must have a Colorado permit, which is also not true for the 90 days after the Colorado ID is issued.

[BigBear]

Ok boys, put 'em on the table and we'll measure... Geesh