Need advice

[DD977GM2]

I'm an even tempered guy but my sisters husband has been hitting her
and she is 7 months pregnant and I want blood right now

He is a former golden glove and I know I can take him but fuck
man still injured from my motorcycle accident and I'd re-injure myself.

I want blood right fucking now and he is lucky I'm tits up for wheels right now.



ETA: he is a former felon so if I beat him to a pulp he will not go to cops and I have no clue if she will press charges

[Great-Kazoo]

You're in luck i happen to have a car with 3/4 tank of gas.
Unless your sister is willing to file charges, you will end up being the bad guy.

[birddog]

I think you would be best to follow the legal course. Is your sister willing to press charges?

[Mazin]

Yep I don't deal well with that one. Any coward that hits a woman deserves to get a royal ass whopping. Call the pd then go from there.


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[DD977GM2]

I don't know if she will press charges and he knows I carry a pistol everywhere. He is nervous about me not that I'd ever un-holster.

[birddog]

Talk to her first and find out. It would feel best to handle this yourself but in the end he will walk and you will be in the hooscow. Not worth it.

[theGinsue]

There's the legal way which is to call the police and let them handle it. In many jurisdictions the abused spouse doesn't get a say in whether he is arrested or not. This takes the burden of responsibility off of the victim. If there is any visible physical evidence of abuse, he gets arrested and an automatic restraining order goes into effect.

While I don't endorse or encourage this, the other way is to get a group of gents to find him alone someplace private and give him a dose of his own medicine, all the while telling him that they heard he likes to hit women. This can backfire in lots of ways though.

I can guarantee that if YOU go after him you will get arrested. Guys like this will use the system to their favor when they feel threatened. Be wary of being alone with him too. Since he knows you carry, he could lodge a pre-emptive strike against you by calling the police and claiming you pulled your gun on him. I know it's your sister, but is it worth giving up your freedom or gun rights for life (assuming you get nailed for a felony)? Also keep in mind that according to CO law, he can have you charged with felony menacing just because he fears you - nothing more.

[alxone]

i can offer advice .... none of it is law abiding , but i can offer

[Great-Kazoo]

I don't know if she will press charges and he knows I carry a pistol everywhere. He is nervous about me not that I'd ever un-holster.

he is a former felon

X police dispatch how may i help you. yes there is a man with a gun threatening my sister.
UNLESS she presses charges, she will never leave him AND more than likely sign a deposition / statement against you, taking his side.
It sucks, but until she chooses to make the next move your hands are tied. Now if you happen to "walk in" while your sister is being attacked that becomes a game changer.

[MCarp71]

Talk to her first and find out. It would feel best to handle this yourself but in the end he will walk and you will be in the hooscow. Not worth it.

This^^ If she will press charges for sure! Kick his ASS!!!

[One Shot]

Dont do anything stupid. Call the cops..

[TFOGGER]

Former felon? Is he on probation or parole? If so, call the appropriate county's parole office and contact his PO. They can do all sorts of shit to him, including putting his happy ass back in prison.

[Inspector Fowler]

Here is the thing - if you do something stupid, you go to jail, he'll stay out, and keep beating your sister. Nobody wins at all.

I suggest talking to your sister, and telling her in no uncertain terms that you fully intend to go to the police. Tell her that there is no way you will let somebody assault your flesh and blood.

[Bailey Guns]

theGinsue is correct. She doesn't need to press charges. The state/city/county will do it and she doesn't have any say. The catch is there must be probable cause that a crime was committed in order for the police to make an arrest. She's got to have some sort of mark or some other physical evidence. Testimony is usually good enough but, depending on how long ago the last even occurred that might not work.

It's very hard for many women to break the cycle of violence. They feel trapped, dependent or any number of other reasons they can't leave the abuser. As a police officer is was often heartbreaking to see it. I can tell you there were many times I wanted to dish out a little street justice on a few guys. Trouble is, they're usually just punks who wouldn't think twice about hitting a woman...they won't take a poke at another man, though.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Catch him in the act and whip his ass, or do your sister a favor and call the cops for her.

[alan0269]

Don't screw up your life and do what most of us would want to do if we had a sister who's husband was hitting her. Unless you catch him in the act, you are not doing anything to stop an immediate threat and you will be the one going to jail - he may go as well, but you would for sure. Call the local P.D. where she lives, advise them of the situation and see what they can do. If he is a convicted felon, his word will not mean as much as that of someone that is not.

Good luck, and prayers going out for your sister that she, or the unborn baby, don't get seriously injured by this a$$hat!!!!

[kwando]

Document every incident. Video or pics of the bruises. Then when she has visable marks on her call the cops, warn them he has been known to carry a gun and you are afraid of her life and the unborn baby. Chances are he will go to jail, you have to be the witness.

[killianak9]

Tough choice .......if she allows you too, ultimately you have to do whats best for her BABY and for Her. In the event God for bid, anything happens to her unborn child or her as a result of this abuse it will probably be too late for a solution cause the damage is done.

Chances are if he is the father and shes been with him for any amount of time, you are at a loss cause she , although beaten and abused, loves this POS and no one knows him like she does, he a good person, blah blah blah or something like that.

http://www.aardvarc.org/dv/states/codv.shtml -could be a start for you and your sis to get some advise.


Good luck and keep us posted.

[sniper7]

just start stopping by quite often and hang out for a long time to let him know you are around a lot!

[Dingo]

Personally, I think everybody deserves one warning. Maybe he was raised in an environment where he never learned respect for women, or how there are certain lines that shouldn't be crossed. Maybe he was beat as a kid, who knows? I would let him know in no uncertain terms, that this is the absolute last time that he will lay a hand on her. Let him know that his "free pass" is used up, and the next time will mean he's crippled or worse, without any chance of mercy or forgiveness - no matter what the consequences for you. Blood trumps legality in my mind every time. Be smart about it, but be decisive. Would you be able to accept it if he loses his temper and kills her or the child? Even if he goes to jail, will that be enough? Ultimately, wouldn't you rather run the risk of jail time or even your sister's anger, if you knew for certain that you were acting out of love in her best interests? Just my two cents worth...

[DSB OUTDOORS]

COAR-15 blanket party?? [Kick2]

[Waywardson174]

Didn't read every post, sorry if already said. 1 felon with gun. Cops come and her testimony is irrelevant. He is going away for illegal possession.. 2. Any DV call results in an overnight arrest of at least one spouse. 3. The risk of you going to jail is too great to take this on yourself. Talk to her, try to convince her this is the right course. If she say no call the cops anyway. She may not go along willingly, but you have to do what you can within the law to get her out of there.

[GilpinGuy]

COAR-15 blanket party?? [Kick2]

Man, when I hear stories like this I wish we could all just band up and kick some serious ass. Of course that would be dumb as shit, but it does feel good to think about it.

When my wife was having serious trouble with her ex, I had fantasies of taking him out this way and that. And I mean I had pretty detailed plans in my head of how I would lure this asshat out of his house, pop him and disappear. In the end, the justice system had his way with him. He lost...bigtime...and I didn't have to commit murder. I WIN! [Flower]

Figuring out a way to have the system ruin this douche is the better way, if you have the chance. But man, a guy beating up my 7 month pregnant sister? It would be difficult to restrain myself.

[Slapps74]

Been here, done this. The bottom line is she must want out or like some one else said " you don't know him, he loves me blah. Shitty situation. Good luck I hope it all works out

[mtnrider]

You have only one course of action and that is to have her report it to the Police. The fact that you have mentioned that you would love to cause this guy harm on a public forum will only get you thrown in jail in the end. The internet is wide open and anything you post can and will be used against you.

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[cstone]

She is your sister. What has she told you she wants to do? Have you talked to your wife to discuss offering your sister and her child a refuge from her attacker?

If your sister needs a ride from where ever she is, to a safe place, PM me and we will make that happen.

Be safe.

[Zundfolge]

Simple fact is that as the most law abiding person in the room YOU have the most to lose when the police show up.

You touch this guy (unless it's a VERY clear cut case of defense with plenty of witnesses) and you will lose your CCW and probably your 2A rights altogether (and probably some freedom) and still not adequately protect your sister from him. Now is the time for you to do everything 100% by the book even though you really want to just drag this filth out into the woods and bury him (and I'd say you're justified for feeling that way ... just don't act that way).

So I'd let the police handle this ... if she refuses to call the police on him and she refuses to get a restraining order and/or take further legal action against him then the sad truth is that she has made her bed and she must lie in it.

[tmleadr03]

Buy a heavy bag, the Dbag isn't worth it.



And don't kid yourself. I could whoop you while playing whistling dixie on a harmonica and not miss a beat.[ROFL1]

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I'd say sleep with his wife, film it, and send him the tape... But that'd be awkward...

[Richard K]

Your sister doesn't need to press charges. It's up to the investigating officer in the case of domestic violence. Even if she denies that she's been struck, if there is evidence that she has been, arrest is mandatory. Police should be contacted during or immediately after the assault (not days or weeks later)

[sneakerd]

Hey man- don't count on being able to beat him- #1. I would start spending alot more time at their house. No kidding you want blood- but you can attempt to communicate with him overtly or by implying you will act. The more time you spend there, the less likely he is to repeat his actions. If it continues, your sister needs to act, not you.

[spqrzilla]

The reality is that a physical confrontation, or really a confrontation of any kind, by the OP of the brother in law will end badly. In fact, even the sister will probably defend the brother in law.

That's the sad reality of much of domestic violence. The only effective solution is to convince the sister to pursue her options against the clown.

All else will end badly in both family relations and legal consequences.

[Byte Stryke]

you know, if you witnessed him hit her, she doesn't have to press charges... you simply sign a complaint and off he goes.

[birddog]

I'd say sleep with his wife, film it, and send him the tape... But that'd be awkward...

Thats going to get weird real quick.

[rockhound]

honestly all you can do is try to get your sister out of the situation. it has to be her decision. she married him, presumably decided to have a baby with him, decided to have a convicted felon be the daddy of her children, she is not making smart decisions

you have kids of your own, getting into this will only cause your own family grief. take care of your own that is all you worry about. give her supports and the number to a good lawyer and offer shelter if she needs it.

[BigBear]

There is nothing you can that would help the situation except have a heart to heart with your sister and offer her a few phones numbers or a couch to sleep on. There is nothing that you can do until SHE decides to get help.

You know all this. We are here for you though. I'm sure we'd all love to have a few minutes in an alley with the scum.

[BushMasterBoy]

The internet Holy Ghost works in weird and wonderful ways...

[Ronin13]

Gabe, I'll say this- after seeing the pain you were in last week, I wouldn't go risking further injury fighting this d-bag... Like others have said, only with a twist, talk to the sis. Blood is thicker than water. Does the rest of the family know about this? How close are your wife and sister? Maybe if your wife talks with her (both being pregnant this will carry a lot of weight in the situation) it will be better than [Big?] bro having a chat with her. Women tend to be more open to talking with other women, unless your sister hates your wife or visa versa. If captain D-bag leaves bruises on her that's just more evidence if you involve PD. Doubt they would be responding, but I have a good friend with Jeffco that's very good with DV that could appeal to your sister- and she's a female deputy, so again that woman thing... Good luck brother!

[DD977GM2]

Just to clarify things up, my Brother in law was screwed over and that is why he got the felony conviction. He had sex with a 16 year old who lied to him and said she was 18 when he was 19 or 20 and when the girls parents divorced, this was made an issue and thus he was convicted and sent to jail, His PO is also in jail for lieing on documents etc which my Brother in Law was part of by the PO's lieing. So the bashing him over the felony conviction isnt right, nor making judgement on my sisters decision making being with a convicted felon etc. Him hitting her is enought to call him the ultimate scumbag.
My wife has been talking with my sister and she is worried I will act if she tells me. I know I wont act on it and I would let him provoke me into a defensive situation, but other then that I wont confront him. He is a Mason and I am asking Masons if they can help with this. Because as I understand, they do not put up with adultery and assualt on the Mason's spouse.
I have other ways to fuck his life up and will persue them since it will hit him and his ego more then if I took a baseball bat to his temple.
For those who say I cant take him and dont underestimate him, he has seen me in action and he has been afraid ever since. I dont underestimate him, I am concerned how badly he will fuck me up before I were to finish it, which I have no real desire to do, but I know I can beat him in a fight.

I genuinley appreciate all the advice and has kept me calm and cool and collected. As soon as the word is go on calling the cops, I am and going to let them handle it after that.
As for my sister, I can house her and her kids, there is 6 in my house already and he is actually leaving so she is stuck with the house payment etc, so I wish I made enough to help her monetarily.

PM me if your a Mason and Id like to persue this avenue to take care of business.

[10mm-man]

You're in luck i happen to have a car with 3/4 tank of gas.
Unless your sister is willing to file charges, you will end up being the bad guy.

^^^^ This and i can roll with...

[Ashton]

People go missing all the time...