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Aperta
11-28-2012, 06:39
How old do you have to be to own a suppressor? I've looked around online some places say 21 some say 18 but you cant have suppressors in a pistol caliber. the reason why i'm asking this question is because i was talking with my dad and he asked what i want for a graduation present jokingly i said a suppressor for my AR him being somewhat anti gun i was expecting him to say **** no! But he said he will give me the money for it. :D I think i may have converted him! Muahaha!
asmo
11-28-2012, 08:24
Use a trust. Don't own it yourself.
Aperta
11-28-2012, 09:06
that's what i was planing on doing using a living will so that way when i go into military my dad can legally keep it.
O2HeN2
11-28-2012, 10:05
A will doesn't work unless you die. A will is not an entity that can own an NFA item. Only a trust can.

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Aperta
11-28-2012, 10:18
A living will can I have a friend that uses a living will and he has plenty of nfa goodies
O2HeN2
11-28-2012, 10:20
A living will can I have a friend that uses a living will and he has plenty of nfa goodies
In his name, correct? Which means no one else can possess them.

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ssgenuine
11-28-2012, 10:23
You have to be 21 to buy and 18 to own, kinda stupid but that the way the gubbamint works. My son turns 18 in January and he will be added on the trust. I have never heard any caliber restrictions, in fact a lot of suppressors are marketed that they work on multi-calibers. Anyway the "21 to buy and 18 to own" also applies to handguns. So you would be good to go in either case.
Thats going to be a pretty sweet grad present. If you get paper work going soon, you might have it in hand for G-day.
Aperta
11-28-2012, 10:32
In his name, correct? Which means no one else can possess them.

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no he has his wife on his living will and she can take them out when ever legally. I just txted him and he said basically its like a trust but easier.
Aperta
11-28-2012, 10:38
You have to be 21 to buy and 18 to own, kinda stupid but that the way the gubbamint works. My son turns 18 in January and he will be added on the trust. I have never heard any caliber restrictions, in fact a lot of suppressors are marketed that they work on multi-calibers. Anyway the "21 to buy and 18 to own" also applies to handguns. So you would be good to go in either case.
Thats going to be a pretty sweet grad present. If you get paper work going soon, you might have it in hand for G-day.

really damn... So I guess I gotta choose a different graduation present. I own a handgun that I bought from a private party. Assuming you have go through a class 3 dealer you cant buy a nfa item privately with out the 21 thing come up.
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ChadAmberg
11-28-2012, 10:54
no he has his wife on his living will and she can take them out when ever legally. I just txted him and he said basically its like a trust but easier.


I hope his well acquainted with firearms laws lawyer specifically told him that. And then the second opinion from a better lawyer. Because that really does not sound correct at all. A trust is a legal entity (a person) that can own something. A living will is not.
O2HeN2
11-28-2012, 11:34
no he has his wife on his living will and she can take them out when ever legally. I just txted him and he said basically its like a trust but easier.
Not what's on the will, what's on the Form 4. His name, correct?

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SAnd
11-28-2012, 12:39
really damn... So I guess I gotta choose a different graduation present. I own a handgun that I bought from a private party. Assuming you have go through a class 3 dealer you cant buy a nfa item privately with out the 21 thing come up.
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You can do a individual to individual transfer if it doesn't cross state lines. Or individual to legal entity if you go that way. If you do a bunch of talking around you may find someone that has one they will part with.

Happy Hunting.
Mick-Boy
11-28-2012, 13:05
Start a trust, put you and your dad on it, your dad buys the can (as an officer of the trust), you get to play. Done.
ssgenuine
11-28-2012, 14:50
^^^^^This^^^^^

Only way to go. You might end up really hooking your dad into this gun game. Shooting with a suppressor just puts a smile on your face...
O2HeN2
11-29-2012, 10:58
Both the "living will" folks really need to call the ATF and/or get another legal opinion. The entity on the Form 4 is the only "thing" that can legally possess the NFA item. If a person is listed, only that person can legally possess the item, living will or no living will. If it's a trust, all people in the trust can possess the item.

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spqrzilla
11-29-2012, 11:03
that's what i was planing on doing using a living will so that way when i go into military my dad can legally keep it.

A "living will" is the term usually used to describe a document that informs people of the person's wishes regarding medical treatment. It isn't a document that creates an independant entity capable of owning NFA items.

I'd really like to know what the OP and his friend think a "living will" is.
Circuits
11-30-2012, 01:51
You don't have to be 21 to buy NFA. You have to be 21 to buy anything but a rifle or shotgun from an FFL. Instate private purchase of NFA or handguns is perfectly legal at 18.