Gander Mountain -100 (mini rant)

[7idl]

so, I put one of the S&W Sigmas on layaway. fine, no problem.. they're selling lots of 'em.


they called last night and said mine was in... cool.. I'm looking forward to it.

went down there to get it this morning.

ended up not getting it due to GM corporate policy.....


Drivers license, issued in '97 no longer has my correct address on it (Colorado law has you write it on a sticker or some other mode if it's changed) GM said they wouldn't accept that.

Having my CCW permit, which is printed with my correct address wasn't valid for use (according to gm).. My ccw is not valid w/o my drivers license and I can't update the CCW address if I have not filed the change of address with the state.*

I could use a hunting / fishing license if it has the right address on it.. well my CDOW issued license has my POB on it, not my home. so that couldn't be used.

I've NEVER had a problem using my ID for a firearms purchase, EVER.. until I went to GM. WTF? NICS checks everything, do they not?

*A ccw which requires a background check more extensive than a nics check, not to mention a fingerprinting isn't good enough? and I'm trying to sneak one past someone? c'mon now!


GM did offer to sell me a fishing license to get a form with the correct address on it and refund the cost, but I already HAVE a combo hunt/fish license with a CID #.


I told 'em to give me my money back.. they just lost a customer based upon principal.


oh, I went directly to SW after that, I confirmed that SW would have NO problems selling me what I wanted (I've bought stuff there before with the SAME licesnse anyway). They had the sigma's, but they were $50 more but I was still torqued so I didn't buy anything.


gander mountain has lost me as a customer for life (like that other shop that shall not be named) ;) They can also kiss my @ss. so can anyone else who can stand up to principal any more.. that's why half our country is a bunch of candyasses.

This reminds me of Hamonds music (?) on colfax in lakewood.. they won't let you return something unless you are in their customer database.. what kind of stupid crap is that.. I wasn't intending to bring something back, it's the pricipal that they would impose that requirement on their customers. I had a couple hundred dollars of crap to purchase.. I left it all there on the counter and walked out.. Sales guys followed me out the door trying to change my mind and saying they could work around this requirement.. no dice... principal of the matter.

Everyone has a right to vote with their feet and/or wallet. Enjoy your freedom and choices while you still can.

[Marlin]

I'm kind of surpised that it was more at SW. At least up here at these two, GM is always the higher price. Not surpised that GM would give You the run around though.

[HunterCO]

Makes note to self NEVER shop at GM. [Mad]

[B2crawler]

I'm looking to buy two new handguns. Glock 20 and Ruger SP101. Both are at least 50$ more at GM than SW.
Also heard a salesman at GM tell a guy looking for his first elk rife that 30-06 wasn't enough gun. go figure

[NineHotel]

Had the same thing happen at the Sports Authority close-out a year ago.

I put a bunch of stuff back, went and got a new DL, and completed the transaction.

BFD.

[Ridge]

Personally I dont see that as wrong...certainly it was an inconvenience to you, but I believe it is law that you need to have a proof of current residence...if your driver's license doesnt work, a utility bill or credit card statement showing your address and your name will suffice...

[7idl]

HELLO?!?!?!?!

reread the post..

GM policy. not ATF

[micah360]

Agreed... Gander sucks balls! I had the exact same thing happen to me so I just went to my car and got my registration and insurance and showed them the address on that. It worked... I bitched alot... but it worked.

I've since moved again and have bought once an Jensen's and The Shootist and have had no problems there with the old ID. I told them that I had it changed with the DMV and that's all that matters... if it's changed with the state or not.

Gander sucks balls!

[motorep]

Less business for GM. Sportsmans Warehouse is up the street anyway.

On the CBI website it states specifically that your CCW with correct address may be used to verify your residence if the address on your drivers license isn't current. GM's loss.

[jackedco]

GM is almost always more $. I was looking for my Kimber Desert Warrior. GM was $1300-1400, SW was a little over $1000. Guess where I bought and continue to buy. The only thing I have every bought at GM was a used Bushmaster. I bought my G23, Armalite, SP101, amd Kimber at SW.

[centrarchidae]

I had the exact same issue you have, updated address at DMV but they didn't give me a new physical copy, and Tom and Joe's, Gunsmoke, SW, Green Mountain Guns, and the defunct Gunworks of Colorado have all been perfectly OK. One of them wanted me to bring them something with the current address (vehicle registration worked just fine, as it happened) but none of them got stupid about dreaming up new rules.

Any word on whether Cabelas is this kind of stupid? (Or the opening date?)

[Fourthwind]

Not to re hash old stuff, while I agree that GM prices go up and down more than a roller coaster. (thank the guy from 3 forks ranch who is a major stock holder and a moron when it comes to pricing) The stuff about the ID is NOT GM policy. It was directly out of the ATF manual, however that being said the CC permit is a government issued ID and should have been taken. That was just a moron employee not GM policy. I worked their selling guns for a few years, and I can tell you it was very interesting when the BATF sent their finest every year to tell us how they wanted the 4473 filled out. Anyone that takes a DL without current residency on it is looking for trouble when they get audited. If that form is picked out at random there will be fines. GM biggest problem is not paying the price to keep people around that actually understand guns and the paperwork. Tough to do when they offer 7 to 10 bucks an hour.

[DaveGoBang!]

I've purchased from both SW and GM recently, and each time they were very clear that DL address needed to be current. They informed me of this BEFORE even starting the process, which was nice. Maybe that's where the dissatisfaction really lies is if someone doesn't set an expectation with you from the very beginning.

[westy1970]

If I am not mistaken, if your DL is not current they have to call in rather than use the computer. At least that is what happened at Jensen's to me a while back. Anyway, I won't shop at GM because they do not allow CCW in the store.

[Ridge]

I defended these guys earlier in this thread, but now Im joining the -100...

I dropped by tonight and this is how things went:

Me: Its probably a long shot, but do you have any AR mags?
GM: Yeah, we just got in 200 Bushmaster mags
Me: How much?
GM: 30 dollars each
Me: You mean 30 rounds each?
GM: Nope, 30 dollars each magazine
Me: Ah, okay. Well, have a good night

[kidicarus13]

FYI: Dick's Sporting Goods let me purchase after I printed my correct address on the back of my D.L.

[hobowh]

sw out here did the same thing could not have it printed they said it was a state thing... of course they are closed now,

[C3vette]

I hate to ruffle feathers here but I have had decent experiences at Gander. On occasion they have a great price on a used firearm and thats when I buy from them. I will agree that they are WAY out of line on accessory prices. Oh and their trade in offers suck.

[MrPrena]

FYI: Dick's Sporting Goods let me purchase after I printed my correct address on the back of my D.L.

Yeah. Dicks Sporting Goods will sell the gun , if you have correct address on the back.
If you do not have them, they have you fill it out on the back of the card prior to running the background.

[Squeeze]

I used to like going into Gander Mountain to just look around. Last time I was in there I found out they are now charging a fee to use their small conference room and I noticed their prices are WAY too high. Also, their staff in the firearms section know jack & squat about their product line. So on that note...I won't be back, ever.

[m1a4me]

gander mountain isn't bad for ammo, but the staff there is so lame. My girlfriend is an experienced shooter and we went in there because she wanted to look at a benelli, and they treated her like she was stupid. To top it off they lied to her to cover their tracks when they got caught with their pants down on a question. The staff is just lame

[Irving]

gander mountain isn't bad for ammo,

You must not have stepped INSIDE the store then.

[Ridge]

Freakin worthless.

Their reloading section is down to 1 of those half aisles they have in front of the gun counter. Only 3 presses, and hardware is damn near impossible to find.

Couldn't find a shell holder for .223, they have dies for things like .22 Hornet and .25 Auto, but no .223 or .308 dies to be seen.

Gun prices are even more outrageous than they used to be (GSG-1911 for over $400, compared to $300 and change from Protekt) and more bullcrap.

Never going back there again.

[Busta Prima]

I've had problem after problem with Gander Mtn. And they stock very little for reloaders or people who like to clean their guns. On two occasions I went down there for nothing on bad info from the salesmen in the gun section. Most recently I went there with a list of things a friend gave me for breaking in and cleaning my new Rem 700. They didn't even have ONE single thing on my list. SW had each and every item. Prices are always higher at GM too.

As Trump would say "I have to say, GM . . . you're fired."

[bigdog23]

The proof of current address to purchase a firearm is a state requirement NOT a Gander Mountain requirement. Gander Mountain price matches ANY and ALL retail prices on anything in the store including firearms.

[CMP_5.56]

The proof of current address to purchase a firearm is a state requirement NOT a Gander Mountain requirement. Gander Mountain price matches ANY and ALL retail prices on anything in the store including firearms.

Sorry, calling BS on the price matching. I went to SW, GM, and called Jensens to see if they would price match on an XDm 9mm. SW wouldn't do it, GM wouldn't do it, and Jensens told that me Neve's must have been selling a stolen firearm to offer them for theprice they were. GM was by far the worst, they were asking $699 for the XDm!! Over $100 from anywhere else. Almost $200 over what Neve's was selling them for. The guy at GM told me they would only price match if was around $20-$30 difference. I won't buy a damn thing from GM.

[JohnTRourke]

The proof of current address to purchase a firearm is a state requirement NOT a Gander Mountain requirement. Gander Mountain price matches ANY and ALL retail prices on anything in the store including firearms.


price matching is a bullshit policy.
what it really says is "oh, we were going to fuck you on our pricing but this one time we'll reduce it just for you"

fuck gander mountain.

[theGinsue]

The proof of current address to purchase a firearm is a state requirement NOT a Gander Mountain requirement. Gander Mountain price matches ANY and ALL retail prices on anything in the store including firearms.


Spoken like a true employee (manager?) of Gander Mtn.

[StagLefty]

The proof of current address to purchase a firearm is a state requirement NOT a Gander Mountain requirement. Gander Mountain price matches ANY and ALL retail prices on anything in the store including firearms.

[Pop]

[DeusExMachina]

No, it is a Gander Mountain bullshit requirement.

[Marlin]

Spoken like a true employee (manager?) of Gander Mtn.

What I was thinking also..


Yo, bigdog23, if your still out there. Even if GM gave me a $1000 gift certificate, I would be torn between "trying" to sell it or burning it.

Between the complete ineptitude of the employees, and the, shall we say constant overpricing, I won't spend another dime in there. Even if it was "free".

If, I need a good laugh, I'll go in and check them out. But, that would be it.

[Irving]

Spoken like a true employee (manager?) of Gander Mtn.

Please don't bash retailers. Many members of this very site are retailers themselves. Where would we be without retailers?

[Ridge]

From the California Attorney General's office, but most states are like this:


What documentation is acceptable to demonstrate proof of residency for handgun purchasers?

-Utility bill from within the past three months that bears on its face the individual's name and either of the following:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs.php

It's number 33.

From Tennessee:


Why do I have to show proof of address if the address on my identification doesn't match where I live? Why isn't a post office box good enough for an address?

-All federal firearms dealers are required to make sure that the purchaser's correct and current residence address are listed on the form. Since a post office box doesn't indicate residence, it is unacceptable for address purposes. If your primary identification does not show your current residence address, you must show proof of address through an acceptable secondary form of identification.

http://www.tbi.state.tn.us/firearm_check/firearm_faqs.shtml

[DeusExMachina]

Neither of those are Colorado, and California has notoriously strict gun laws (obviously).

I have purchased many firearms from dealers, and the only place I was asked for a utility bill was at Gander.

[Ridge]

The 2nd one specifically says it is federal law that an address has to be verified.

[DeusExMachina]

The 2nd one specifically says it is federal law that an address has to be verified.

I see that no where.

[AirbornePathogen]

I've gone into Gander a couple times, but as soon as I saw the non-windowed PMags for $30 each (!?!?!?), I walked right out and haven't been back since. About the only thing I can say for em is that they're probably the only business I've ever seen with a posted sign specifically ALLOWING concealed carry.

[Richard K]

A month or so I had a Saturday to kill while my wife was hosting a hen party. I went to GM and they had a "special sale" on Ruger LC9's for $369 that ended that day. I passed and went to SW who had them on sale for $339 but they said they were out but would check in the back for the days shipment. The mgr. came back and said they had 20 and could I wait while they logged one in for me. As I was filling out the paperwork I mentioned GM's "special sale" price the mgr. said "that's higher than our regular price".

A year or so ago I did purchase a gun at GM because it was the only one I could find in town. I went through the same BS regarding an address change on the back of my DL and they wouldn't accept the new address on my CCW. I had to go to the service desk and buy a $5 habitat stamp but they took the $5 off the price of the gun.

[DeusExMachina]

I will give Gander one +1 to offer it's -100. I was in there looking for a scope and I noticed on the way in that they changed their sign. "All firearms must be checked in with customer service when entering the store. This does not apply to concealed carry permit holders."

[patrick0685]

I will give Gander one +1 to offer it's -100. I was in there looking for a scope and I noticed on the way in that they changed their sign. "All firearms must be checked in with customer service when entering the store. This does not apply to concealed carry permit holders."

no

[DeusExMachina]

no

Yes?

[patrick0685]

Yes?

you can carry concealed in Gander, thats for guns and bows that are being taken to the back for work or sale

[DeusExMachina]

you can carry concealed in Gander, thats for guns and bows that are being taken to the back for work or sale

Yes...I know that. The sign used to not have that last sentence, making their stance on concealed firearms ambiguous at best.

Now there's the caveat that concealed firearms are excused from the requirement.

[soldier-of-the-apocalypse]

gander mountain SUX